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Ambarella, TI, Hisilicon: Is There A Way To Compare Cameras From All Three?

TH
Truman HW
Nov 29, 2017

I realize we'll first need to find cameras that have them. And then, yes, standardized specs and tests...but it'd be great to know which manufacture offered the best bang per buck; including heat, image quality while retaining smart features, and so on.

If anyone here has insight on this, or why it doesn't matter (if it doesn't) I'd be all ears. 

 

Thanks

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Nov 29, 2017

I don't know of one major tier 1 manufacturer that openly advertises what sensor and chipset they use. 

The cheap Chinese factories advertise they use x,y,z to add credibility to what they are doing but Dahua, HIK etc. don't do it. If you know product managers in the place they will likely tell you they are using a certain sensor and chipset model number but again it isn't public info a lot of the time.

TH
Truman HW
Dec 04, 2017

You make a good point; when a company is going to ensure that the product works perfectly as advertised in the specifications, they don't have to legitimize their claims which haven't always panned out in the past -- by appealing to the manufacturing component's specs. 

Very insightful of you to identify that. 

PS - in my network utility which scans my network for devices connected to it... it'll ID manufacture products; so I can see who uses Ambarella, HiSilicon, etc. But, until they use the same image sensor its irrelevant...for reasons you alluded to. 

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U
Undisclosed #2
Dec 04, 2017
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PS - in my network utility which scans my network for devices connected to it... it'll ID manufacture products; so I can see who uses Ambarella, HiSilicon, etc.

It can tell you if it’s using Amberella or HiSilicon?  What’s the name of the utility?

JR
John Richardson
Nov 29, 2017

But each of these vendors make a whole range of video chipsets based of features and application. Wouldn't you also want identical sensors and lenses for a good comparison? Then surely data on any customisations by each manufacturer - which would be impossible to obtain. Then there is the firmware which dictates the overall usability and compatibility of the cameras. Then there is the electrical and mechanical designs which ensure the reliability and optimum performance of the cameras through shipping, installation and when exposed to harsh conditions. Then there is the after-sales support such as firmware and accessory eco systems.... There is so much more to a camera than a chipset - why do you focus on these alone?

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Michael Archer
Dec 04, 2017

One way to tell a solution chipset is in fact simpler than opening the device.

If you install the ActiveX browser download, you will mostly likely see the support DLL drivers from the respective companies.

If you see hi_h264dec_w this is HiSilicon just right click the DLL and take a peek at properties.

I don't have to have TI which seems all but dead in CCTV. So maybe you won't find this.

So you can check an Ambarella Solution with same principle.

I don't have a comprehensive list, but this is a starting point.

It seems very hard to try and identify a stream encoded origins, even with some tools like avinaptic2 which can only look inside a .MP4 which is useful to show DRF Levels gives a reasonable quality assessment of the encoding, low is good, high is bad.

BR.

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