3rd Party Providing All Electric Locks For Access System?

We just got called in (first meeting/plan review was yesterday) on a ~15 door system, new construction, electric already roughed in, and drywall just weeks away. We don't even have electronic plans yet. :Sigh:

 

We are still waiting on a door schedule, to see exactly what is being provided/installed by others but we are told someone else is providing all the strikes, mag locks, etc.

 

Is it common for the door vendor to provide the electric hardware? Strikes, mag locks, etc?

 

Considering how late we were invited, it may be good we don't have to worry about sorting out which locks, etc.

 

 

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