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Tech Support: How Do You Deal With Lazy Customers?

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Undisclosed #1
Oct 03, 2017

I can understand helping people who are new to a particular product when they need help

I can understand helping veterans face a problem they have never seen before

I can even understand helping veterans who just aren't real smart about a certain subject that continually need help.

What I do have trouble with is the guys who call in who are simply lazy and they want us to either do everything for them or they make absolutely no attempt to solve an issue themselves. Their first knee jerk reaction is to call us as soon as they cannot figure something out.

How do you deal with guys like this? Do you just deal with it and consider it a thing that comes with the territory or do you have a tactful way of telling them to "try before you call us"?

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JH
John Honovich
Oct 03, 2017
IPVM

That's your value add! :)

I am only half joking. Maybe they really appreciate and buy from you because you are willing to help them like that. It could be a competitive differentiator.

I'll leave it to people with more tech support experience to offer specific advice. Good topic!

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John Bazyk
Oct 03, 2017
Command Corporation • IPVMU Certified

This is why RMR is so important. The more complex the system the more portential questions or programming changes a client may have. We adjust RMR based on system size and complexity and look at it the same way an insurance company looks at term life insurance. We might have a few customers who just won’t stop calling and others who don’t call that much. All of them paying us helps to keep our tech support and customer service teams strong and providing great service all around. 

We also try and sell only the most user friendly systems to help reduce the load. Our newest clients have few technical support needs than clients on older systems where the UI isn’t as intuitive. We spend a lot of time having random people test out systems before we sell them to help us make decisions about what we offer.  

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Rob Hammond
Oct 03, 2017
IPVMU Certified

Back in the 80s, I was the software guru for the security product we were selling. We didn’t have a tech support line so our techs in the field would call me.  There was one tech that fits your description.  Being a nice guy (I have since learned that nicety can encourage stupidity).  So, when he called with a question, I would open the tech manual and tell him that the answer was on page 126, or wherever.  I thought he would get the hint.  After a few of these responses, he called and ask what page he could find the answer to his question – at that point I dropped the subtle approach!

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John Bazyk
Oct 03, 2017
Command Corporation • IPVMU Certified

We have also created a great knowledge base and are continually building it for clients. When they email in we send a response with a link to that section of the knowledge base and than when a tech support person follows up half the time they figured it out. 

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Undisclosed #1
Oct 03, 2017

oh no, we have help guides and tons of info available, and these guys know its available. But the guys im referring to dont even care to take a look. Their thought process has always been to call us as opposed to learning how to fix it themselves. We even mention that the information is on an easy to understand guide available on our website. Their response is "well im onsite and would really like if you could help me out with it" Which I dont mind, maybe the first few times.......

I want to say
"well sir it seems like you call us about needing help for setup on every single job, when are you actually going to learn this so you can do it on your own?"

I dont mind helping out when there is an issue, but I have problems holding professional installers hands for what seems like EVERY SINGLE JOB

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John Bazyk
Oct 03, 2017
Command Corporation • IPVMU Certified

When I first commented I didn’t realize you were a distributor. My advice is more for integrators. If I were you I would start tracking tech support tickets and than sit down with these guys and show them how much they’re calling in. Unless their spending big time money it’s probably time to send them elsewhere if they’re that much of a burden. Nothing wrong with firing the bottom 1% of clients every year. I’d be willing to bet these same guys pay late every invoice to. 

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Undisclosed #2
Oct 03, 2017

I'll try to avoid bashing clueless "professionals" too much... but for what it's worth, back in the day when I used to work in general IT support, I got quite a bit of experience of people who just have this funny mindset that when they call someone for help, the someone is the person who does whatever is needed, even if it was actually impossible. It's sort of dehumanizing. Perhaps they lack empathy or just never imagined what it's like to work in support and how their demands or "laziness" is perceived by the person at the other side of the phone line. Not that everyone would even care.

Later, in the security sector, I mostly had to fix problems caused by incompetence of the installers (totally incorrect or lacking settings, hardware broken etc.). They didn't bother calling me for help, but instead just did a poor job and called it a day, leaving me to wonder why suddenly there's some obscure problem...

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Marty Major
Oct 03, 2017
Teledyne FLIR

If your goal is changing behavior, you have to give them a reason to want to change that behavior themselves....

Why would they want to learn anything if they know you are there to do the work for them?

You must train them.  Train them on content and train them on why helping themselves is better for them.  You have to sell it by showing them the benefits of not having to call you.

What I used to do was try and get them to understand how much time and money they were wasting by having to call me over and over for the simple stuff.  If they spend 15-20 minutes on the phone with you for every job they complete, then imagine how many more jobs they could complete if they didn't have to call you first?  

They may not get this - especially if they are lazy and are used to you doing their work for them - but their bosses will understand these benefits.  :)

Showcase how much more you could be doing for them if you weren't tied down 'helping' them figure out the same stuff every day...

Print up step-by-step How-To guides for the 'every day' stuff and ship them directly to these customers (and their bosses).  Don't allow them the opportunity to use the 'I'm in the field' excuse.

Schedule training sessions at their locations - and test them before they get to leave.

If you can show them how learning empowers them, I think you at least have a shot at changing their behavior.

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U
Undisclosed #4
Oct 03, 2017
IPVMU Certified

You must train them. Train them on content and train them on why helping themselves is better for them.

Tech support: Now you just need to click "Apply network changes" and the connection between the camera and the NVR should show as working..."
Customer: Yes, that did it, you da man! Ok, thx again, talk to you soon...
Tech Support: Hold on, there's still another issue left; can you bring up the support page on "Setting the IP address"?
Customer: Uh, why?
Tech Support: We still need to establish a connection between the manual and your brain.

 

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
Oct 03, 2017

One technique that works for us reps when we get calls from "lazy" dealers (and distributors) is to try to get them some training, either at their office, at a counter day, or on-line.  More manufacturers are requiring dealers to obtain some level of "certification" training, and we find this helps, especially if it is free or very inexpensive.  

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Jim Elder
Oct 03, 2017
IPVMU Certified

I think its how you structure your service agreement and your support. As far as the integrator is concerned, I agree with JH, being in touch with the client is a good thing....as long as you are getting paid. You are also there for the MACs that your customer may require and, most importantly,  you keep the relationship between you and the guy representing his company. Finally, you may think your customer is lazy, but really, its more of a lack of interest in his system. Exploit this as a revenue stream.    

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Tom Ramirez
Oct 04, 2017
IPVMU Certified

No matter what type of business you are in, you will always have lazy customers. Your attempt to help them will bring your overall rating higher in the mind of the customer which most times they will tell other people. Then in the big picture you will end up with more customers in the long run. 

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