Video Platforms That You Can "Lock Or Tag" Video To Keep From Being Deleted

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I ran in to a situation this week whereby if you don't pay for the Milestone Corporate edition you can't "Lock or Tag" video from deletion unless you are on their Corporate edition software. This feature is called Evidence Locker. Now Evidence Locker has some cool features but if I just need to keep some video from being deleted for a couple of weeks while an investigation is going on then you really shouldn't have to pay an arm and a leg for something as simple as this. Also you can't even add this feature as an option to any of the other models.

So in the comments shout out other brands that do allow this as part of the base system. Either a simple appliance or all the way up to an enterprise type system.

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

We utilize Genetec Security Center and it has the ability to protect video from deletion.

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Brandon Knutson

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We "bookmark" video clips in OnSSI Ocularis to preserve that clip for possible export at a future time.

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Shannon Davis

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Milestone does that as well but if the recording server starts running out of space, bookmark or not, the video will be deleted.

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Brandon Knutson

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Got it. The way we have our system set-up that wont happen as our bookmarked video goes on a server that it not a recording server.

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Shannon Davis

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So then in the system you setup the bookmarks to automatically get transferred from the recording server to a separate storage medium then?

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Brandon Knutson

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A standalone copy of the video that is bookmarked is saved on the OnSSI "Base" server, by default. In our case the Base server is not a recording server so storage variables will not be an issue.

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Undisclosed #2

My Onssi gripe is this. Let's say you have a 95 cameras in one facility, 1 Base/Event Proxy Server, 1 DM/Recorder with 2 Nas Storage on the network and you want to have specific cameras record to NAS 1 and the remainder of the cameras record onto NAS 2. Onssi(Seetec) distributes all cameras into available ZONES visible by the DM. The ZONE is the available storage space added to the DM. This to me is the most annoying storage set up, at least in Oracle Solaris you can migrate Zones on shared storage. In Seetec you can try copying and pasting folder however I would imagine that would break the book marks over on the base. I hope for but doubt Qognify will have interest in cleaning this up.

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Brandon Knutson

In reply to Undisclosed #2

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I've never had to address that type of system layout, but I guess you'd have to run 2 DM/Recorders to have specific cameras record to a specific NAS.

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Undisclosed #2

Yep, you have to run 2 DMs, PITA!

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Dwayne Cooney

Shannon is right, with Milestone Bookmarking, the data will be deleted on a FIFO basis but Evidence Lock protects the data completely. It can only be deleted with sufficient user rights unless the evidence lock is set to expire.

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Shannon Davis

In reply to Dwayne Cooney

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My big gripe is I shouldn't have to pay to have video locked if you are on a version other than their free version. Simply just a database setting.

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Undisclosed #2

Agree, Especially if you already paid ip licenses, ssa and services to record the video in the first place.

Customer: So I can record my cameras...but have to individually go in an separately archive my video to another media?

Integrator: No, I can upsell you a version that allows you to tag a specific video timeline(recording lol) and then when you prefer you can come back and delete it yourself. The tag is implemented onto your recorded video! It is cutting edge technology.

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Brian Sampson

I’m an Exacq employee. Bookmarking is available in exacqVision Professional.

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Shannon Davis

In reply to Brian Sampson

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That I did know as we sell Exacq as well. In the Enterprise version then you can do even more with the bookmarks. I get with say the Start version you can't as that is an entry level system. Same should be true with Milestone. If you install their 8 camera free system then no I don't expect to be able to keep video from being deleted.

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Undisclosed #2

Fun fact but true, Ubiquiti's Unifi NVR has the ability to lock video to prevent deletion. Seems like this should be a common feature.

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Shannon Davis

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As I said out loud earlier this week:

I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF MANUFACTURERS NICKLE AND DIMING ME FOR EVERY LITTLE FEATURE IN A SYSTEM.!!!

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Dwayne Cooney

With Milestone, your option for long term storage in most versions other than XProtect Corporate are to simply to archive.

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Shannon Davis

In reply to Dwayne Cooney

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They are archiving but when you have well over 300 cameras, and many with high resolution, storage starts becoming very costly.

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Dwayne Cooney

In reply to Dwayne Cooney

Only 300? :) I have many more but only evidence lock specific incidents for evidentiary reasons.

I thought you were looking for an evidence lock feature, not to prevent recording over all of your cameras.

It sounds like you need more primary storage and a written retention policy or if you need to save recordings for a large amount of cameras you should consider archiving, conditioning, etc.

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Shannon Davis

•Jan 10, 2019

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Sure you can do all that and they do but I, THEY, shouldn’t have to pay to lock video from being deleted.

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Michael Miller