Wyze Fires Back at JCI - Your Patents Are Invalid, Pay All Of Our Costs

By John Honovich, Published Nov 18, 2019, 07:02am EST (Info+)

Goliath JCI targeted startup Wyze this summer alleging the fast-growing consumer startup was violating a slew of JCI's patents.

Now, Wyze has fired back at JCI, not only refusing to pay up but counter alleging that JCI's patents are invalid and that JCI should pay Wyze.

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Comments (7)

I don’t think we have enough information to vote just yet. Let’s wait until after the discovery process.

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I usually like the Polls on IPVM, this one not so much. I don't think there will be any "winners" in this situation. No matter how this pans out for either company, the customers and patrons of their products and services will ultimately be the losers in this, as they will pay the price of cost increase of said products and services that will be the result of the cost of the court battles.

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Your patent must be defended as an ongoing expense. Keep this in mind when filing, because if you lose the patent you have now revealed a trade secret. We allow $50,000/yr for expenses to defend a patent that still has value to us. It requires monitoring the field to find infringements, sending threatening letters, and if necessary filing lawsuits and following them through.

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if you lose the patent you have now revealed a trade secret.

Doesn't the patent paperwork itself already reveal your trade secret?

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agree with others and didn't vote based on the choices and the amount of information known.

"Moreover, Wyze hired high-end specialist attorneys to go up against JCI"

VC hoping to protect their $20M capital at risk. they had little choice after JCI sued them.

the Wyze response is the 'bark louder' strategy sometimes used by smaller dogs who have just been barked at by a larger dog... designed to make the big dog think twice about their first bark.

I'm certain that the big dog's lawyers recognize this for what it is.... and will assume that the little dog doesn't have the capacity to win a full on dog fight.

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Update: A scheduling order has been filed by the court setting a tentative trial date for October 2021:

At the same time, this is being referred for alternative dispute resolution.

Whether they actually go to a trial in 22 months remains to be seen as there is plenty of time to negotiate and position in the meantime.

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