WSJ Investigates China's Total Surveillance State

Author: John Honovich, Published on Dec 26, 2017

The WSJ is continuing its investigation into Chinese video surveillance. Following up on last month's WSJ Investigation of Hikvision, the WSJ is back with Twelve Days in Xinjiang: How China’s Surveillance State Overwhelms Daily Life, remarking that "The government has turned the remote region into a laboratory for its high-tech social controls"

Below is the 8-minute video from the report:

Inside, we examine the claims made, the video surveillance manufacturers cited and the potential impact on the industry.

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Comments (57)

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

12/26/17 07:18pm

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 12/26/17 10:54pm

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***** ***** ********** ** ******* *** ****** ********** ** ** unprofitable ************, *** ****** ***** ******** ** ***** ********* **** to ******* ***** ****** ;)

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 12/26/17 09:57pm

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to John Honovich | 12/26/17 09:59pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 12/26/17 08:17pm

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to John Honovich | 12/26/17 09:17pm

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 12/26/17 11:12pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 12/26/17 06:29pm

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Chad Rohde

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 12/27/17 03:50am

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*** ***** ******* ***** ****** * ***average ********'* perception, but unfortunately the only thing that will ultimately change their mind is a product with similar qualities and cheaper price.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Chad Rohde | 12/27/17 03:53am

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Michael Gonzalez

12/26/17 10:35pm

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to Michael Gonzalez | 12/26/17 11:25pm

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**’* ***** ********** ** *** **** **** ******* ** ****** relative: ***** ******** *** ***** * *** ******* **** * Xinjiang ******** ******* *** *** (********) ******* ** *** **** of ******** *****...

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Michael Gonzalez | 12/27/17 02:47am

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to John Honovich | 12/27/17 03:00am

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Sean Patton

In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 12/27/17 07:17pm

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to Sean Patton | 12/27/17 09:29pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to John Honovich | 12/27/17 10:06am

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Michael Gonzalez

In reply to John Honovich | 12/28/17 03:03pm

*** ****, * ***** **** ***, ** ******** **** ****** more ****** ************, *** ************ ***** ** **** ********* **** the ***** ** ******* *** ********* ** **** ********.

Chad Rohde

In reply to Michael Gonzalez | 12/26/17 08:28pm

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*** ******* ******** ****** ***'* **** **** ** ********** ***** easy. *** ***** ***** * ******* ******** ******* * ******* military ***** ** **** *** ****** * ******.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Chad Rohde | 12/27/17 02:10pm

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Chad Rohde

In reply to John Honovich | 12/28/17 10:04pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Chad Rohde | 12/29/17 12:31am

**** ***** ******* ** ** ** **** ******, *** **** a **** ****** ********.

****? **** *****? **** ** ***** **** ******** ** **** up **** *****?

*** ******** **********, ********, *******, *******, *********, ******, *** ** *****, *******, Bloomberg, *********, *** *** *** **** **** *** ****** ** China? **** '****** ********' ** *** ** *** *** ******* about **** ** ******** **** **** ***** ****?

Chad Rohde

In reply to John Honovich | 12/29/17 11:27pm

****? **** *****? **** ** ***** **** ******** ** **** up **** *****?

**'* ******* **** *********.*** ******* ***.

*** ******** **********, ********, *******, *******, *********, ******, *** ** *****, *******, Bloomberg, *********, *** *** *** **** **** *** ****** ** China?

** * *** *** ***** ** ****, *** ****** *** can **** ** *** **** ******** ***** ** ******, ** really ***'* *** ** ** ******** *** * ***** **** less. *** **** ******* *** ***** ** ********* *** *** me ** ***** * ****** ******* ******. ****** ********* **** ******* ** * *** ** *********?

*****'* ***** **** **** *** ** ** ****. * *** those ********* **** * **** ***** **** ** ******* * deficiency ** ***** ********** ***** ****** ** ***** ***** ******** and ** ******* ** **** ** *** ***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Chad Rohde | 12/30/17 12:35am

*****'* ***** **** **** *** ** ** ****. * *** those ********* **** * **** ***** **** ** ******* * deficiency ** ***** ********** ***** ****** ** ***** ***** ******** and ** ******* ** **** ** *** ***.

*** ****** ***'* **** ***** *** ********* ** *****?

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**** ******* ***** *** (**** ******** *** ******* *****):

*** ****'* ** *********, ***** ** ****** **** ********* **** pollution:

** ********** *** *** **** **, **** ** *** ** right ***:

* ********* *** ***** **** ***** ***** *** *** **** problems ****** ******* **** **** *** ******* ** **********.

Chad Rohde

In reply to John Honovich | 12/30/17 04:51am

* ********* *** ***** **** ***** ***** *** *** **** problems ****** ******* **** **** *** ******* ** **********.

** *** ** *****'* ** *** ** **** *****TO **** ******? I assume this is what you are referring to as "putting down".

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* ********* *** ** **** ******** ** ***** *** ******* them **** *** ** **** *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Chad Rohde | 12/30/17 05:19pm

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Chad Rohde

In reply to John Honovich | 01/05/18 02:59pm

********* ********* ********** ********* ***** ********* ***'* ********* * ***** doing ** *** *** ***** *** ** *** ****'* ******* studying ******* ****. ****** **** ** *** ***** ******** *** different ******* ****** ** ****** ******* *** ***** *********** ****** an ************ **** ** ****** ****** ***.

Undisclosed #2

In reply to John Honovich | 12/30/17 08:48am

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 12/30/17 05:19pm

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***** ****** ********

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 12/30/17 06:31pm

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 12/30/17 06:36pm

******* ** ** **** *** :)

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 12/30/17 06:39pm

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 12/30/17 06:42pm

***** ***,

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 12/30/17 07:36pm

***** *** **** ** *** ***!

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Undisclosed #8

In reply to Chad Rohde | 12/30/17 06:08pm

"****** ********* **** ******* ** * *** ** *********?

Doesn't ***** **** **** *** ** ** ****. I bet those countries have a much lower rate of vitamin D deficiency in their population being forced to leave their computer and go outside to play in the sun."

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Chad Rohde

In reply to Undisclosed #8 | 12/30/17 06:37pm

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Undisclosed #8

In reply to Chad Rohde | 12/30/17 06:40pm

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Chad Rohde

In reply to Undisclosed #8 | 01/05/18 03:11pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to Chad Rohde | 12/27/17 07:09am

*** ***** ***** * ******* ******** ******* * ******* ******** would ** **** *** ****** * ******.

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Chad Rohde

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 12/28/17 09:46pm

******** **** ******** ***** ******** **** ** ** **. ** you *** *** ***** ******** ****** *** ** *** ****** then ***** ** ***** ******** **** * *** **** ************.

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David Delepine

AA Security Systems LLC | 12/27/17 02:52am

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** *** ** ***** ** ********* ** **** **** * feel *** ****** ** **** ** **. **** **** ********* what **** *** ***** *** *** ******* ********** * ** not *** **** ******** ** *** **** ** ******** ** immoral ********. * *** *** **** *** *** *** ********** uses ***** ********** *** ** * *** ****** ******** * cannot ***** **** *** ********* ******* *** **** **** ********.

*** ********* ** * ********* ***** ** ** *** ****. I ** **** ***** ****** **** * ************ ******* **** is * **** *** ** * ************ *** ******, **** is ********** ******** ** **** **********, *** *** ***** ****** to ** ********* ***** *** *** ******* *** ****** ******** with ******** ******** ***************.

*** ***** ** ** *** **** ** ***** ****** *** term “*****” *** ***, **** ** ****** *** ************** ****** for ** ******* *** *****’* *** ******* *************. *** **** imitate *** *******, *** **** ***** **** ******* ******* *****, yes **** ******** **** *****/*****/******* ******** **** ****** ****... ** done ** ******* ** ***** ******** (***** * ******, **** v *****, ******** * *****) *** ** *** *** ** the *** *** ** ***** ********* ** **** ** *** government ****** *** *** ***** ** * *** ****** ******** that ** ******** **** *** **** ******. *** ** ******* Dahua *** ******** ******** *** *** ********* ** *** ******** and *******. **** *** ** ** ***** ******* *** **** again *** **?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to David Delepine | 12/26/17 07:50pm

*****, ****** *** *** ********** ********!

***, ** ***:

***** ** ** *** ****** *** ** *** ******* ***** surveillance *** * ***** ******** ** ***** ******. ******* ***** do ** **** ** *** **, *** **, ** **** of *** “**** *****”?

** ****** **** ***** *******, *** ** ** **** *** top *** ***** ** **** *** ******, *.*.,******* ** *** ***** ****:

Undisclosed #6

In reply to David Delepine | 12/27/17 05:52pm

" *** ** *** *** ** *** *** *** ** these ********* ** **** ** *** ********** ****** *** *** other ** * *** ****** ******** **** ** ******** **** the **** ******"

** ** ****** * **** **** ***** * ****** *****. If *** *** *** ******* ********** ** ** **** ********** regime **** *** ****** *** *** ******** **** ********** **** China (********* ******* ***** ********), *** ******, ********* ** ********, there *** ****** ******* *** *****.


** **** ** ** ** ** *****, *** **** *** Dahua ** * "*** ******" ******** **** *** **** ** is ************ **** *** ******* ********** ** **** *** ******* government *****'* **** *** *** ** *********** **. ***** ******* on ***** *** ****** *****, ** ***** ***** ***** *** controlled ** *** **********, ***** ******* ** *** ********** *** numerous ********** ********* ** ***** ******** ****** *** * *** think ** * *** **** ****** *** ********** *** *** to ********* *** *******.

** *** ********* **** ******, ***** ** * ***-***** ***** with * ********** ******** *********, ** *** ***** **** ** the ******* ********** ** "***** *****" **** * ***** ** Dahua ** **** **** *** **** ** **** ** ** what *** ********** *****?

* ********** ** *** *** *** ******* ************* ** **** of * **** ** **** **** *** *****, ** *** 90s ******* ***** **** ****** ******* *** ******** ****** **** the ***** *******, * ******* ** ** * ******** ** time ****** **** ***** ******* ***** ** **********. ***** ** 10 ***** ** **** ** ********** *** **** ** ****** manufacturers *** *** **** ******** *** ******* ******.

*'* **** *****...

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David Delepine

AA Security Systems LLC | In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 12/28/17 04:53pm

***** ** *** ** *** **** ********** *******, ***. ******* so **** ******** **** ** *** ** * ***** ***** are **** ** *****. ***** **** ****, ***********, *****, ****, furniture, ********, *** *** *** *** ***** ** **** **** in ***** ******* **** ***** **** *** *** ****. ** knowing **** ** ** ** ********* ** *** **********, **** that **** **** *** ** ***** ************* *** **** ** the ******? ** ***** ****** **** * ***** ** ******* made ***** ***** ** *** ********* *****? **** ****** ***, it ** ***** ** *** ****** ********* **** *** ****** to ** **********. *** ***** ********* ****** ***** ** *** government? *** *** * ***** ** ** ***** ******* **** make ***** *** **** *** ********** ***. ***** *** ******* government **** ** *** *** *** * ** ***** ***** lean ** *** ** ********’* ** ***** ** ******* ***** will **** ****? **** ********* *** *** ******** ** **** it ***** **** (*** ********).

*******, **** ***** ** *** ***** ***** ** ****** ******* made ********/***********/*** ******* **** ***** ***** **** *** ***** ** have ** ****** *** *** **** ** ***** *****/*******/******** ** effectively ***** ***** “*********” (***** *** ******* ** *** ****** I ** **** ***** ** **** ******* **** **).

** ** ***** ***** ***** *** *** ** **** *** is *** ** ****** *** *** ***** ** ** ******** (not *** **** ***** *** ** ********). * ****** ***** myself ** ******* ** ************ **** ** ******** ****** **** to “*** ******” (** ***** *** * ** ****** *** much *** **** ****). ***** ***** ****** ******* ** ********** by *** **********? *** *** **** ** ********* **** * will *** *******. ******* ****** * *** **** **** * company **** ** ******** ******* ** **** ** ******** *** allowing ** ** ******* ******* ***** ** ** ******* *** dealers, *** ** *** *********** **** ** ***** *** ***** control? * ** *** ***** **, *** * ** **** to ** * **** ** **** ******* * **** ** that **** ****** **** **** ** *** ***** ** ****** on ** ** ** *** *** *** ***********.

****** *** *** ******** ***, ** ******* ** ** ******* my ***** *** *** * *** ** ******* ****** **********. Btw * ** ********** **** *** *** *** ******* ******* products, *** ****** *** ** *** *** * *********** ******* Dahua *** *********. * *** ** ****** *** **** ** one ** *** ******* ****** ***** ****** ** “****” ****** than ***** “******* **”, *** ******* ** *******.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

In reply to David Delepine | 12/30/17 01:45am

** ******* *** *** ****** **** ***** *** ******* ******* on ***** *** *******, **** *** *** ******* *** **** the ****** ***’* *** ******, *** ******** *** ******* **** if ***** ** ** ***** ******** **** *** ************.

*** ******* ** *** *** ** ***** *** **** **** analytics ** ******* *** ** ****** ******* *****.

******** *****’* ****** *** ******* *******.

*** *** ******* ***’* **** ***. ***.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #5

12/27/17 04:17pm

** ***** ***** ** * ***** ******* ******* *** *** technology *** *********** *** ********. *** **** *** ***** ************ really ** ** **** **** ** **** *** * ***** form ** **** *** **** **** ********* ****: ** *** have * ********?

** ** **** ****** ** ***** ******, *********** ** ***** store, ************** ***, ***. *** ***** ******* *** **** **** the ************ ********** ***'* ******* **** **** - ** ** was **** ***** ******* **** ***** *** *** *** **** you're *****.

** ** ***** **** ** *** ******* ******* ** ************* and *** **********.

John Honovich

IPVM | 12/27/17 04:22pm

**** ***** ***** **** *** **************** *** ******* **** ** and ** ***:***** ****** ******** *** ****** ***** ** ***** *****’* ******* DNA ********:

**** ** *** **** ******* ****** *** ********** ******* *** impermissible ** *** *.*. ** *****, *** ****** ***** ** blood ******* *** ********* ******** **** ****** ******** *** ********** such ** ********** ** ***** ******** ***** ** ******* ***** critical ** *** *****, ********* ** ********* **** * ******** police *** ********** ** ********* *** ******** ******** ********.

****** ****’* ********* ** *** *****. ****** ****** ******* ****** considered * ****** **** ** ****** *********. ***** ******* ******* workers ***, ** *** ****, **** ****** *** **** *******, the ********* ****.

Undisclosed #2

In reply to John Honovich | 12/27/17 04:43pm

“*** ******** ******* ****** ** **.”

John Honovich

IPVM | 12/28/17 07:35pm

Update: ****** ***** ****** ******** *** ** *****

******* ******* *** ********** ***** **,*** *********** *****’* ******** ********* ** ******** *** ** * 20-year **** ****:

*********** ******** ***** ****** ****** ** ****** ***** ******* *** massive ****-********* ******** ** ******** *** ******** ********** ***** ****** Uygurs

***** ******* *** ***** *** ********* ** ******* *** ***** from **** ** **** ** ******* ****** ***** ***** ***** and ****** **** “********, ******** *** *******” *** ********* ***** and *** ********, ******* *** ** ***** ** ****** *** subversion ** ***** *****. ** *** ***** ******* **** ***** for ******* ** ******* ********* *** ********* ****** ** *** intense ****** ******** ** *** ******* ** ********.

**** ***** **** ** ********** **** ** ********** *** **************** ** the ** ** *** *** *** ***** **** *** *****.

Michael Miller

12/30/17 07:49pm

* ****'* *** ***** ** **** **** *** ** *** some *********** *****.

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Mick Brown

01/02/18 09:56am

********* ************* ***** ****** **** *** ******** **** ********* ** transfer ****** **** ********

******** *** **** *** **** ** ***********

*** ** **** **** **** ** **** *** ***** ****** dollars ** ***** ******* *******

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Mick Brown

01/02/18 10:15am

*** *** ***** *** ******** **** ********** ** *** ****** that ***** ** *** **

******* **** ** **** **’* ***** **** ***

***’* ******** ***** ******* ** ****** **** ***** *** ********** by **** ***

**** ********* ***** ******** ** **** ** **** ** ********** demanding **** ********** ********

***

** *** **** ******’* **** * ****** ****** *****

***** ** ***** ***** **** *** *** *******

*** ** ******* ** ***** ***** **** ** *** **** door

******* * ***** *** ***’* *******

**

Undisclosed Manufacturer #5

In reply to Mick Brown | 01/02/18 03:58pm

***'* **** ******** **** ******** ******* ********* **** ** ********** sense **** ******** **** **** ******* ** "*** ****** **** wants ** *** **," **** ******* ********* **** ****** ** any ****** **** ***** ** *** ** ** ****, *** all ****** ****** ** **** ******** *** ********* **** ** those **********. *** **** ****** **** ***** *** **** ** them ** ***** *** ********** *********** ******* ** (**** ****** of *****, ****** ******* * **** ********** *******) - *** many ***** **** *****'* **** **** ****. **** *** ********* series **** * ****** ***** *** "***** *** **********." ** discusses **** ** ***** **** ********* *** **** ****** ************ technology **** ******* *********.

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Mick Brown

01/02/18 04:14pm

***** *** **** ****** ** *** ***** *** ***** ******* anything *** * *** *******

*** ** *** **** *** *** *** ******** *** ******

*** ***** ***** ** **

**** ** ********* ** * ******* ****** ********* ** **** sure ********* *** **********

**** **

******** *** **** ** **** ***** **** *********** ***** ******* interference

***** *** ***** ** ** ***** ** *** ****

******* *** ***** ** ** * ****** ***** ** *** something *** **** ** ******* *** ** **

***** ** ***** ****** ** **** ** *** **** ******** to ***** **** *****

**** ******** *** **** *** ** *** *** ****

**** ***** ******** ********* **** ********* ******* *********

Undisclosed End User #9

01/02/18 05:41pm

******** *** ****-******** ***** ** ******* ************ *********, *** *** positive "****** ******" **** *** *** ***** *** **** **** technology ** ***** ******* **** ** * ***** **** ***********. I ******* **** ******* ** **** *** ************ ******* ***********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed End User #9 | 01/02/18 05:51pm

**** ********** ** ***** ******* **** ** * ***** **** environment. * ******* **** ******* ** **** *** ************ ******* development.

***** **, ******** **'* ******** ***** ****. ** * ***** out ** *** ****, *** ******** ***** *** **** ********* videos, ** ******* **** ** ** *******.

****, ** *** ****** **** ** ** ***** ****, ******* how **** ****** ************ ** ******, *.*., *** ***** *** the ***** ****** *** *** **** ** **** ***** ********* since ***** ** ******* ** *****, '********' ** * ****** priority *** ***** ******* *** **** ** * ******* (******* in *** ** ** ** * **** *********** ***** ***** arrest ***** ***** * ******** ***********).

*******,***** ** ******* *** ******* ****** *********** ***** *********, ** ** * ***** *** **** ** - ******* mostly!

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Rob Kilpatrick

IPVM | IPVMU Certified | 01/22/18 05:50pm

*******:***** **** ****** *********** ** ***** ** ********* ** *** West

***** ****** ***********, **** * ****** ** ******** ******** ******* than *** ****** *** ** *** **** ****, *********** *** notified *** *** ** ********** ** ********* ** ***** ***** home ** ******** ******* ** ******.

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