Ex Taco Bell Exec Sues Uber Driver Over Surveillance Video

Author: John Honovich, Published on Jan 18, 2016

This is a fascinating case about the role and limits of video surveillance, beyond the absurdity of the actual event itself. Generally, in the US, surveillance video is 'fair game' but this case raises questions about exceptions and gray areas.

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Comments (34)

Keefe Lovgren

IPVMU Certified | 01/18/16 03:29pm

******* ****** ***** *** ****** *** ********* ********* ** *** passenger... * **** ******* ** *** ******* ** **** ****...

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Keefe Lovgren | 01/18/16 03:36pm

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*** ***** ** ***, *** *** ***** / ***** ********* be ******** ****?

Undisclosed 1 Integrator

| 01/18/16 07:04pm
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Undisclosed 3

In reply to Undisclosed 1 Integrator | 01/20/16 11:07pm

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James Gowan

IPVMU Certified | 01/18/16 08:44pm
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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to James Gowan | 01/18/16 09:04pm

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Undisclosed 2 Manufacturer

In reply to John Honovich | 01/18/16 09:53pm

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Undisclosed 2 Manufacturer | 01/18/16 10:01pm

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Undisclosed 3

In reply to James Gowan | 01/18/16 10:48pm

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Jason Spielfogel

In reply to Undisclosed 3 | 01/20/16 10:23pm

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Undisclosed 3

In reply to Jason Spielfogel | 01/21/16 01:54am

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Jason Spielfogel

In reply to Undisclosed 3 | 01/21/16 04:29am

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Undisclosed 3

In reply to Jason Spielfogel | 01/22/16 12:56am

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Jason Spielfogel

In reply to Undisclosed 3 | 01/22/16 02:30am

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Undisclosed 3

In reply to Jason Spielfogel | 01/22/16 06:12am

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Jason Spielfogel

In reply to Undisclosed 3 | 01/22/16 04:00pm

***, ***** *** *** *** **********, ** **** ** *********** to *** *** **** ***** ***.


**********, **. ****** ** ***** ** **** * **** **** seeking ********** ********** ** *** ******, ********** ** *** ******* of *** ******** *** ***** *****.

Keefe Lovgren

IPVMU Certified | In reply to James Gowan | 01/19/16 01:50am

**** **** **** *** ****/******** ********* *** **** *** *** the ***? * ** *** ******** **** *** ** ***** but * ***** ******* **** **** *** ******* ***** ********* and *** ******** *** ****** **** **** ****** ** ****...

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Michael Budalich

| 01/19/16 01:56am

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Andrius Dapkevicius

| 01/19/16 07:54am

*** **** *** *** ***:

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Andrius Dapkevicius | 01/19/16 08:17am

****** *** *******, **'* * ***** *********. ** ******* *** those *** **** *** ******* *** *****, **'* *** ******** that ** ********* *** *** ** **, **'* ********* ****** to ***** "**'* *** **** **** ** ****** *** ********* beats ** ******," ****** **** ** ***.

Fausto Galvan

| 01/19/16 10:21am

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*** *** **** ** **** ******* **** ** **** * lesson, ** ******* ** *** *** ******* *** ***** ****** don’t **** **** **… ** ** *** **** ******* ** deal **** **!

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Fausto Galvan | 01/19/16 11:39am

***,

**** ********!

"** ****** ** ***** **** *** ***** ** *** ***** will ****** ** ****** *** ********* ** * ****** ** privacy ***** *** ****’* ********* ******* ***** ** **** ****…"

*************, * ***** ** *** ** **** ***** ** *** case *** ** *** **, ** ** *** **** ** strict / ************* ***** ** ******* ** **** ** *********. In *** **, * *** ** ** ******* ** ******* a ***** ** ****** '******', ** ******, ****** *********** ** privacy.

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Fausto Galvan

In reply to John Honovich | 01/19/16 11:51am

** ****,

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Jason Spielfogel

In reply to John Honovich | 01/21/16 04:35am

"*** *** **** ** **** ******* **** ** **** * lesson, ** ******* ** *** *** ******* *** ***** ****** don’t **** **** **… ** ** *** **** ******* ** deal **** **!"

* ******** **** **** ******* *** **** *******. ***** ** all, **'* * ****** **** ** ****** ***** *** ****** is ** **** ******* *** ***** **** ***. ***** *** not **** *** *** **** *** ***** ****** *** ***** after *** ***** *******. ******* **** ** ********** ****, *** recognized *** ******* ****** *** *****, ** ******* *** ******* and ***** ****** ** ****, ***** ********.

*** **** *********, ** ****** ******** ***** ****** ****:

*) *** ****** **** * ********** *********** ** ******* ***, if **, *** *** ***** ** ****** ****** ** **** Golden ********** *** ***** **** *** ***?

Undisclosed 3

In reply to Fausto Galvan | 01/19/16 11:43am

*** *** **** ** **** ******* **** ** **** * lesson, ** ******* ** *** *** ******* *** ***** ****** don’t **** **** **…

** ****'** ** *** ****!

Undisclosed 4

In reply to Fausto Galvan | 01/19/16 04:58pm

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Undisclosed 4 | 01/19/16 05:08pm

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Undisclosed 3

| 01/19/16 05:28pm

**** * ********** *******. * ******'* ***** ** ***** *** first *** ******* ** **.

Hal Bennick

In reply to Undisclosed 3 | 01/20/16 01:31am

** *** ***** ****, **** *** ****** **** * ****!

Undisclosed 1 Integrator

| 01/22/16 06:47am
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Undisclosed 3

| 01/22/16 08:01am

****, * ******* **** **** ****** ** **** ******* ** the *** **** ** **. ****.

*** ******* * **** ***, *** * **** **** ****** mounted *** **** ******* ****.

***** * ****** *****, *** *** ***** *** ****** *** orbs ** *** ****** *****.

*** ** *** *********.

Undisclosed 3

| 01/22/16 05:07pm

**** ****** ** *** ***** **** ***** ******* ***** *** beaten ******?

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Undisclosed 3 | 01/22/16 05:10pm

***, **** * ***** ****, ********** ***** *** ****** ******* to **** ** *****.

****, * ******* ********** **** ******** ** **** **** ********* to ****, ***** ** **** **** *** ******** ***** ***** of ***.

Jason Spielfogel

In reply to John Honovich | 01/22/16 07:21pm

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