10 Surprising ISC West 2016 Booth Sizes

Genetec

ONVIF is out but will Austin powers and the fembots return for another round? THAT is the real question here....

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Luis Carmona

Geutebruck USA • IPVMU Certified

Jufeng sounds like a mis-mash of GE and H&R Block. "We bring good things to life! And then we deduct it!"

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to Luis Carmona

ok that was a good one!

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

Wow, there's got to be 30-40 exhibitors with company names that start with "Shenzhen". Sign of the times?

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John Honovich

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1

IPVM

China manufacturer's increase is booth size is definitely a trend.

That said, ISC West has had an international area for years, and most of the Shenzhen companies are there:

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

Will Hoverboards be banned this year?

Keep me posted. ;)

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Kris Hornung

Very interesting analysis IPVM!

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Eddie Perry

I dont see the hanwha booth?

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John Honovich

IPVM

In reply to Eddie Perry

"I dont see the hanwha booth?"

Lol, dba Samsung Techwin America for now.

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

Bucking the trend, Genetec has a 25% smaller booth than in 2015:

They're claiming its due to their H.265 compression.

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Patrick Kelly

We are in Booth: 17089

Booth: 17089

Full Disclosure - I work for Digital Watchdog

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

Do you get to choose your spot?

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Brian Karas

Pelican Zero

Within reason, yes. Every year on the last day of the show (or maybe 2nd day, I forget exactly) current exhibitors get to choose their space for the next year. It goes according to a seniority/spend amount scale, and the larger vendors tend to get dibs on their current location first for the next year.

So, you can choose your location, within certain boundaries. If you're a new exhibitor to the show, most of the "good" spots will be taken and you'll start out more on the fringes, but there is usually enough turnover that within a few years you can get a spot in a more prime location.

Also, you can combine booths together to make a larger space or do other slight modifications to the floorplan as long as it doesn't disrupt surrounding areas.

As you might imagine, budget trumps minor rules. If some large company wanted a prime space for next years show, with a 30'x50' booth up front, they'd probably find a way to make it happen.

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Luis Carmona

Geutebruck USA • IPVMU Certified

In reply to Brian Karas

Can you merge with a company that has a better booth position, thereby executing a "booth inversion"?

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

In reply to Brian Karas

It goes according to a seniority/spend amount scale, and the larger vendors tend to get dibs on their current location first for the next year.

Seniority would explain the large group of vendors relegated to 'little shenzhen', and why IDIS gets to be next to Axis now.

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John Honovich

IPVM

"Seniority would explain the large group of vendors relegated to 'little shenzhen', and why IDIS gets to be next to Axis now."

No, 'little shenzhen' is because it is bought as a block at a discount.

As for IDIS, their 40 x 60 booth is one of the largest in the show, and that automatically get you preference for the front.

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Dan Clinton

In reply to Brian Karas

Actually manufacturers have to choose booth locations for the next years show several months before this years show even occurs. Its all based on a points system. The more you exhibit and the larger the booth size the greater the priority points. Companies with a lot of points and massive booth sizes get first pick and it trickles down from there.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified

John

Will you have a presence at the ISC show? I go every other year and only to ISC West as it is the best I think anyone that has been around would agree?

Look forward to meeting you.

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John Honovich

In reply to Marty Calhoun

IPVM

Marty,

We'll be there. Still seeing what I am going to do :)

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

We'll be there. Still seeing what I am going to do :)

Could this be the event that you finally unleash the much rumored IPVM quad copter at?

Possible Lineup for TEAM IPVM:

Brian: Pilot
Ethan: Imaging
John S.: Communications
Derek: Ground Support/Autographs

and of course,

You: 2-way Audio Strafing

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

Any sign of the ICRealtime Cannon this year?

They have finally gotten past Hansung Techwha, and now have clear line of sight to the crown jewel of the industry. God help us.

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Christopher Uiterwyk

IPConfigure

Hi UD2, IPConfigure will not need the cannon this year... we will be announcing next week how IPConfigure's Orchid VMS security is "second to none".

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

...IPConfigure will not need the cannon this year...

Rumor has it that it may have fallen into the wrong hands after last year's campaign...

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John Honovich

IPVM

"we will be announcing next week how IPConfigure's Orchid VMS security is "second to none"."

Wait, what does that mean? What will happen between this week and next?

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Christopher Uiterwyk

IPConfigure

Orchid 1.8 is currently in testing and is scheduled for release next week. In addition to HTTPS (HTTP over SSL/TLS), Orchid 1.8 supports an encryption technology called SRTP that allows us to encrypt video sent using RTSP. Many of our competitors support encrypted video by tunneling RTSP over HTTPS, which is inferior and does not support encrypted multicast video. Our research to date suggests this puts Orchid VMS in a class of its own with regards to encryption.

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John Honovich

IPVM

"Our research to date suggests this puts Orchid VMS in a class of its own with regards to encryption."

Perhaps... but not a top selling point to most even if you have every other feature that Genetec / Milestone / Exacq, etc. have.

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

Claimed Security Vulnerability in Axis, Aimetis and Milestone VMSes

Impervious to HTTP authentication downgrade attacks, I assume?

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R. Cortland Tompkins, PhD

•Feb 24, 2016

IPConfigure, Inc.

In reply to R. Cortland Tompkins, PhD

Neither the Orchid recording engine nor the Orchid viewing plugin will attempt to stream from a camera or server with an invalid TLS certificate. An invalid or missing certificate on an HTTPS or RTSPS connection will result in an immediate failure -- thereby preventing HTTPS or RTSPS connections from being downgraded to HTTP or RTSP connections using basic auth.

(I am VP Engineering for IPConfigure)

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Undisclosed #2

•Feb 24, 2016

IPVMU Certified

An invalid or missing certificate on an HTTPS or RTSPS connection will result in an immediate failure...

Do you allow self-signed certificates?

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R. Cortland Tompkins, PhD

•Feb 24, 2016

IPConfigure, Inc.

As a design decision, Orchid does not support self-signed certificates without a CA. If you want to install self-generated certificates on your cameras (which is reasonable given the cost of commercial certificates), you would install your own CA certificate in the root keystore of your Orchid server.

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David Lieberman

IPVMU Certified

John and other forum members: If you were running ASIS, what would you do to increase the relevance of -- and participation in -- ASIS's annual show?

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John Honovich

In reply to David Lieberman

IPVM

David, I'd differentiate ASIS by making it more of an end user show when it comes to products and technologies. ASIS does a good job on sessions that relate to policy and management (certainly much better than ISC) but when it comes to products, ASIS is really a poor man's ISC with little differentiation.

ASIS should provide better information and guidance to their members on the strengths and weaknesses of their exhibitors. ISC won't do that, since it is run by SIA, which is the manufacturer trade union, but ASIS could.

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David Lieberman

IPVMU Certified

Interesting thoughts, John. If they did as you described, do you think there would then be enough of a difference between them or is there really just limited potential in that regard?

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John Honovich

In reply to David Lieberman

IPVM

Right now, both exhibit floors are roughly the same, except ISC West is bigger and has more new products being released.

I think ASIS could differentiate by telling their members essentially, "Hey we are going to help you navigate the show floor and find the right stuff for your needs rather than wander around and get random sales pitches."

ASIS has the biggest end user membership, they just do not organize it well for products and technologies.

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David Lieberman

IPVMU Certified

That makes sense. Thank you, John.

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

Cannot believe Jufeng is going to be allowed to exhibit again after their "Shining Virgin Show" debacle in '13...

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John Honovich

IPVM

I really thought you were going to go with Jufeng's "Solemnly declaration":

"Some clients of our company received account information in the name of Hangzhou Jufeng Technology Co.,Ltd and suffered huge losses."

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Undisclosed #2

•Feb 22, 2016

IPVMU Certified

I would have but I was trying to stay on topic (ISC West)...

It's also hard to choose from all the material, for instance:

"Staff can create client, then client will bring about worth. The relation between staff and client just like fish and water, they combine together with each other and can not be divided."

It's true that fish (Feng) needs water (clients), but clients (water) can do ok without Feng (fish).

And of course,

Company sense of worth: with dream, bear hardships, facing lose, insisting

Sounds like an annoying dream.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

More important question.... is there going to be a Pelco party??

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Undisclosed #5

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

More like a Pelco Wake...

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Hal Bennick

Trafficware, a CUBIC Company

I changed my personal email a little while ago, and I no longer get the Longe spam. Gotta tell you, that was some of the best spam out there. More often than not, it was weird enough to forward to my kids for a laugh. I need to get back on there...

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