ShotSpotter Admissibility Challenged in Court

Published Aug 02, 2022 14:14 PM

ShotSpotter is being held in "friendly" contempt by an Illinois court over its refusal to turn over information to public defenders, who want to hold a Frye hearing to set a legal precedent on whether ShotSpotter's methods are scientifically valid and admissible in court.

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In this post, IPVM examines the request for ShotSpotter information, ShotSpotter's response to IPVM about their refusal to share, and the implications for future legal challenges involving ShotSpotter technology.

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**** ***** *** ********* ***** ** Illinois "******** ********" ****** *** ** an ******* ***** ******** ** ** order (*,*).

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** *** **** ******** *. *****, *******, *** ******* ****** ********’* Officer **seeking *********** **** *********** **** *** ** ******* ** *** **** at hand and is beyond anything pertinent that alert data could provide. [emphasis added]

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Comments (14)
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Ross Vander Klok
Aug 02, 2022
IPVMU Certified

***** *** **** **** ********* ***** able ** ** **** ** ******** if **** *****'* *** *** ** these **** ********. **** **** *** them ** ***** ******? ** ** done ** * *****-**-***** *****?

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Conor Healy
Aug 02, 2022
IPVMU Certified

******, *********** **** **** * **** hearing ** ******** **********, **** ** it's *** ** **** ****. * Frye ******* (** * ******* **** of *******) ** **** ** * state-by-state ***** ***. *** **** ** any **** **** **** ** ***** states *** ***********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Aug 10, 2022

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Paul Shah
Aug 02, 2022

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********** ** * ********* *****

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Undisclosed Integrator #2
Aug 30, 2022

******* ******* ** ********* ******* ******* in *** ***.

**** **** ** ****** *** *** police **** ******* ** **** **** observed ***?

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**** ******* ***** ******* ** ** simply ******* ******* ** ********* ********* trying ** ******* **** *** ******* in *** ****** **** ***.

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Conor Healy
Aug 30, 2022
IPVMU Certified

*** *** * *** **** ** that **'* ** *********** *** *** public ********'* ****** ** **** * Frye ******* ** ***********, ***** ***** impact **** ***** ** *** ****** and *** ***** ** ****** **********. If ********, **'* ******** ****** *** the ****** **** **** ******* ***** this **** **** ******, **** ********** minor ******* ******, *** *******, * case ********* * ******* *** *****. This **** ******** ***** ****** ********* for *** ****** ********'* ******

* ** ***** **** **** ** counterintuitive *** **** ******, *** ****** as * ***** ****** ** ***** reasonable.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
Aug 30, 2022

**** ********: ** **** ******** **** to ** ********* ** ** ****** case? ** **** **** **'* ***** to ****** ****** *****, ** ***** no *** ** ************ *** ** a **** ******* ******* ** ****** case? **** *** **** ******'* **** to ******* * ***** ***** *** evidence ** ******** ***'* ************ *********.

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Conor Healy
Aug 30, 2022
IPVMU Certified

******, *** **** ****** ***** ** set ***** **********. ******** ***** ***'* some ******* ********* *** **** **** I'm *** ***** **.

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Undisclosed #4
Aug 30, 2022

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Conor Healy
Aug 30, 2022
IPVMU Certified

******. *** *** ** ********.

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Undisclosed #4
Aug 30, 2022

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Conor Healy
Aug 30, 2022
IPVMU Certified

*** **** ** ****'* ******** ** me, *** * ***** **** *********** can ** *********** ******. *** **** this **** *** ************ ** ******** by * ***** ** **** ** the **** *******. *** *********** *****'* want ****.

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Undisclosed #4
Aug 30, 2022

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**** **** **** ***** ** **** to ****** ** *** ** ***** made ** ********** **** *** ** those **** *** ***** **** **** cover.

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Undisclosed #4
Aug 30, 2022

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