Senators Question Amazon On Dahua 'Uyghur Warnings'

Published Feb 11, 2021 13:20 PM
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Two US Senators sent a letter questioning Amazon after IPVM and the LA Times exposed Dahua's "real-time Uyghur warnings" for China police.

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In a letter to Jeff Bezos, the Senators criticized that Amazon "willfully ignored guidance from the United States government and purchased equipment from an entity-listed company that is complicit in China’s atrocities against the Uyghurs.”

The letter also calls the 'Uyghur warnings' revelations "extremely disturbing", showcasing the risk of having any Dahua associations as the US government considers "transactions of any nature" with a sanctioned firm to be a "Red Flag".

Amazon's $10m Dahua Fever Cam Deal

IPVM ImageLast summer, Reuters reported that Amazon had bought ~1,500 Dahua fever cameras in a $10 million deal for temperature screening in its warehouses. The purchase happened well after Dahua was sanctioned by the US government for human rights abuses against Uyghurs in October 2019 by being added to the 'Entity List'.

Senators: Dahua News "Extremely Disturbing", Firm "Complicit In Genocide"

Following the IPVM/LAT articles, Senators Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Bob Menendez (D-NJ) issued a joint letter to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos about "troubling contracts" with Dahua:IPVM Image

The letter criticized Amazon for the Dahua fever cam deal, noting this "willfully ignored" US government guidance:

Last year, Amazon entered into a deal reportedly worth $10 million to buy 1,500 cameras from Dahua Technology, even though the U.S. Department of Commerce had already labeled the company as being “involved, or to pose a significant risk of being or becoming involved, in activities contrary to the national security or foreign policy interests of the United States.” If these allegations against Dahua are true, it would mean that Amazon willfully ignored guidance from the United States government and purchased equipment from an entity-listed company that is complicit in China’s atrocities against the Uyghurs [emphasis added]

The letter asked four questions to Bezos:

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  1. Were you aware that Dahua Technology was on the Commerce Department’s Entity List when your company entered into negotiations with, and subsequently agreed to, a $10 million contract with them? If so, when were you made aware of the Entity List designation? Was it a factor in your deliberations about sourcing such equipment?
  2. When did you become aware of the reports of Dahua Technology’s participation in China’s state surveillance system against the Uyghurs and other groups targeted by the party-state?
  3. After the November 2020 reports that source code was found specifically related to surveilling Uyghurs in Dahua’s SDK, did Amazon have any pending contracts with Dahua? Were any contracts completed after this information came to light?
  4. What criteria does Amazon use to determine when to terminate a business relationship with an entity that engages in human rights violations? If Amazon does not have such a criteria, will it develop one in light of the recent Dahua related reports?

When Amazon/Bezos responds to these questions, IPVM will update this article.

"Red Flag" For Sanctioned Entity Transactions

This letter is an important reminder that transactions with Dahua carries risk - indeed, as IPVM has already reported, the US government considers any transactions with an Entity Listed company to carry a 'red flag:

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Risk to Dahua USA And Anyone Who Associates With Dahua

Dahua USA has continued to profit despite its October 2019 human rights sanctions, capitalizing on 2020's fever cam 'Gold Rush' (even before the FDA permitted it) with sales to big clients like Amazon and Six Flags (whose deployment violated FDA guidelines.) Moreover, IPVM testing revealed Dahua rigged those fever cameras.

Now, the revelation of Dahua's 'Uyghur warnings' and the resulting Senators' letter shows these sanctions risk impacting not only Dahua but those who do business with Dahua.

Questions Sent To ADI, Bosch, and SIA

IPVM sent a similar set of questions to ADI, Bosch, and SIA. ADI is Dahua's largest North American distribution partner. Bosch continues to partner with Dahua for contract manufacturing and Dahua is a member of the Security Industry Association and one of SIA / ISC's largest exhibitors. We asked them for a response by the end of business tomorrow, February 12th. We will update this on Monday, February 15th with any responses or lack thereof.

Comments (13)
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Ross Vander Klok
Feb 11, 2021
IPVMU Certified

Thank you for the work you are doing to expose this beyond the security world. It is important to get the word out as wide and as far as possible.

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Feb 12, 2021

Generally speaking; some would say US senators have no place hypocritically calling out another hypocrisy-ridden company, considering the way they conduct themselves, pandering to lobbyists, ignoring their constituents, the people that should matter, looking out for their own interests, furthering their political existence for inexcusable duration's of time in office without limit. That said, many others might say "Amazon - shame on you for knowingly purchasing products from a Chinese business when you could purchase some other non-sanctioned country of origin's useless, malfunctioning fever cameras. What were you thinking?" The question may be asked -But don't we all purchase goods from China? Who here can say they are not currently purchasing "ANYTHING" at all that originated from them; not just technology, but ANYTHING? Try it sometime for a month. Be honest with yourself. Are people actually really and truly interested in change? Some would say the Senators aren't being or haven't been honest about "something" somewhere (and many, an absurd number of times) in their political and/or personal existence, so what gives them to right to call out another dis-honest entity? As a few may have said - "Ok, Amazon / Jeff, what were you thinking?" Maybe his reply could have been at a $180Billion+ (with a B) personal net worth "I don't really care; will enough people stop purchasing from Amazon over this to truly affect me, the board or the Amazon entity(s)...Will you, the US Govmt do anything about it? Of course not..you make the same choices every day..now look over there and go be distracted by something else.. I have other more important things to worry about...like lunch". Senators Joe & Blow may respond with - "Thanks Jeff; we'll go and attempt to figure out how to exist without purchasing ANY goods at all from China...(uhoh- we'll need to source vaccine vial materials and syringes from Venezuela now)... so they comprehend the serious nature of their actions, and atrocities against the Uyghurs [emphasis added]..well, maybe after we deal with this other natl-securitee threat-impeachment#2. But at least we looked good asking the tough questions".

Excellent article - Thank you for all of your time and efforts.

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Undisclosed #2
Feb 12, 2021

This is the best comment I have read in a loooong time. Nice write up sir.

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Undisclosed End User #4
Feb 15, 2021

Not every business in China is the same. I would wager the vast majority do not actively work with the government to imprison fellow citizens by alerting the police to their very existence.

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John Honovich
Feb 15, 2021
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Agreed. I think it's important to differentiate being in China and even having a business in China vs companies that develop product offerings for the police to oppress ethnic minorities.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Feb 15, 2021

Since using Dahua equipment is a violation of the NDAA shouldn't the DOD request the judge dismiss Amazon's attempt to overturn the $10 billion JEDI contract? It also has me wondering what other services does it provide to the federal government that are cancelable due to this violation?

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John Honovich
Feb 15, 2021
IPVM

I don't know but I would be surprised that Amazon is still using Dahua, given the issues with fever cameras, the issues with working with Dahua, etc. In other words, if I was Dahua, the easy response would be that they are no longer using it and therefore not in violation.

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Feb 15, 2021

I'm not sure they could simply say "we stopped using them" without providing some proof. It also means there might be other Dahua equipment they are using as well.

As to EST cameras, while IPVM has done a good job of showing that they are expensive and don't offer a good ROI, we are still seeing regular requests for them, especially with many lower cost offerings. It's not the surge like last year but there still is demand, since we're limited to 510K cameras though we end up having to turn most of that work down at the moment since we don't have any inexpensive 510K systems onboarded yet.

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Undisclosed Integrator #5
Feb 16, 2021

"Bosch continues to partner with Dahua for contract manufacturing "

Is there evidence for this, or communication where Bosch admitted this?

Bosch has communicated to our company that Bosch lines are fully NDAA compliant, including a buyback of non NDAA compliant parts from distribution.

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John Honovich
Feb 16, 2021
IPVM

Yes, both statements are true. Bosch does not sell Dahua made products in the USA but they still do elsewhere in the world.

We will have more coverage on this soon but see Bosch Dropping Dahua

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Undisclosed End User #4
Feb 23, 2021

I would think this puts more pressure on Amazon and the US government to do what is right?

Canada's parliament declares China's treatment of Uighurs 'genocide' - BBC News

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Charles Rollet
Feb 24, 2021

UPDATE: Amazon received the Senators' letter and is currently working on a response, according to a source close to the company.

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Mar 11, 2021

Are they still working on it?......still yet?......really, still?........man I'm disappointed in the lack of timely response.