Top 9 Actual Excuses of Unethical Relabellers

By John Honovich, Published Jun 02, 2021, 01:57pm EDT (Info+)

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Here are the top actual excuses unethical relabellers make, and the reality explained, from a conversation IPVM had this week with an ADI salesperson.

Putting one's label on another company's finished product (relabelling) encourages widespread unethical behavior and harms buyers who are deceived in the process.

Sellers make all sorts of excuses to justify their unethical actions but rarely do they do it in writing and at such great length as this 6-year industry veteran of ADI (and previously Anixter) did in a subsequently deleted 20+ comment thread.

These problems have come to the forefront with the NDAA ban of Dahua and Hikvision products and recently ADI's decision to secretly relabel Dahua. Indeed, this ADI salesperson objected to this news. In the process, we cataloged 9 top excuses that are commonly made and in this exchange.

Let's break down each one.

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***** **** **** ******* **’* ****? But ************* ** *** ***** ******* they **** **** ********, ** ** say **’* ***** “******” ** ********** and **************** *** *** **** ** doing **.

**** ** * ****** ********* *** unethical ***********, ************* *** ******* ** basic ***** **** '******'.

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** **’** *****, ** **** **** it’s *** **** *** ****** **** to **** *********.

****** *****, *********, ****** *** *** who *** *** ****** ** *** then *** *** ****** * **** for **** ******.

*** *** ***** **** ****** **** to *** *** ** ***** ******** companies **** ***** ******** *** ********** from * ******* **** ** **** banned *** ********** *** ***** ****** abuses?

(*) ** *** ** **** ** - *** ** ******* ********* ** by ****** **** ****** **** ******** hide **, **** **** ********* ********* to **** ****** **** ******** *** law:

** *** ***** ********* ** ****** the ******* ** **’* ** **** required ********* **** ** ******* ** may **

******* ** ****** ********** **** **-***** (which ***** ** ****** ****** *****), they *** ** ******** **** **** will **** **, ** **** **** out *** ***********, ***** **** ** the **** **** **** ***.

**** ** *** ****** ***-**** ********** we ***********:

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(*) ** **** ***** - ** course, **********, ** **** **** ** selling ** ***** ****** **** ***********:

***’* ***** **** ***** *** ** the ******

*** ** ****** **** **** **** were ******** ****** **** ********* *******, many ***** ******* *** **** ** avoid *** ******** ** **** ********.

(*) **'* **** ******** - ****, being ******** ****:

**** ******** ** * ********

********* ******* *** ********* *** **** as **** ******** *** ** ****** personal **** ** *** ****** *** are ***** ********* ** ** ******* who **** ***** ******** *******.

(*) ********* ** ********* - ******* of ****** ************** *** *** ****** they ****, **** ******* ** ** forcing ******** **** ** ******* ********** they **:

*’* ******** **** ***** **** ** your ****, **** *******, **** *** been ****** ** ** **** ******** by ********* **** *** ***% ***** rights ******** ******** **** ****?

*** *** * **** ********, ***** product ********, **** ******** ** *** (the ****) *** **** **** ** disclose ** *** ******** **** ****** ignore ****, *** ******* *********** ***** item ** ***'* ****.

***** ** ****** *** ****** ** eliminate ********* *********, **** ** ** rationale ** ******* ***** *** ***** ethical *****.

(*) **’* *** ******* - *******, the ********* ******* ** **** ** may ** ********* *** **'* *** illegal:

*** ******* ** *** ******* ** be **** ** ********** ************ ** government ****** ************. ****’* *** *** same ** “*******”.”

*****, **** ******* ********* ** *** strictly *******, **** *** **** ****** should ** ********* ******.

********, *** ****** *** ***** *** products *** '*** *******' ** ** used ** *** ** ******* **********, with ** ******* *****, *** *** contractors ** *** ** ******* ********** is **** ** ******** ******* *** of *** **** ****, *.*., ** is *******.

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Anthony Jones

06/02/21 06:46pm

***'* ****** ********** *** ******** ****** awards ** ***** ***** ****!

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Max Protein

06/02/21 07:43pm

** ** **** *********** ***** **** relabeling ** *********; **** ********** ** unethical; **** ****** *** ******** *********; that *** ** ****; ** ********* else? **’** *** ***** ***** *** deception ** ******* *** *********, ********** of *** ******** ** ** ********** or ********. **** ** *** ***** of **** *******?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Max Protein | 06/02/21 09:06pm

*** ***** ** ** ****** *** various ******* **** *********** **** ** that *** ****** *** ** ****** informed ** *** ******* ****. **** that ****?

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to John Honovich | 06/02/21 09:24pm

* ***** **** **'* ****** ** this ***** * *** **** *** "blog" ********** **** *** *** ** frequently ******* **. ***'* *** * disagree. **** ***'* ****, **'* ** editorial, *** ** ****** ** ************* as ****.

"**********" ** *...*...

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 06/02/21 09:31pm

* ** *** ***** ** **** you ** *********.

******* ** ****, ****** ********* ** things?

**** ** **** **** (*** ******* of ** ****** *****) *** *********, as ** **** ** **** **** produces. ** *** ***'* **** *** style, **** ****. *** ******** ** a *** *****. ** *** ******** with *** ******** *** *********** *******, you *** ******* ** **** * thoughtful ***************.

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Max Protein

In reply to John Honovich | 06/02/21 09:48pm

* *** *** ********* ** ** facetious **** ** ********. * ***** did *** ********** *** ***** ** the *******.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Max Protein | 06/02/21 09:53pm

***, * *** ********** ***** ** #1's ******** ** ** **** *******. If * *** ******* *******, ****** let ** ****.

* **** ***** ***** ** ******* from *********** ********* ** * ****** them ********* ** * ****** ***** so *** ******** *** *** *** pattern *** *** ****** **** ***** excuses.

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Max Protein

In reply to John Honovich | 06/02/21 10:15pm

** *** ****** ** *** ******* is ** ****** *** ****** ** the ********* ******* ********* (****** *** the ******** ****** ******) *** ** abuse *************, **** ******* *****. ******* whitelabeling ** ********** ** *********** ************* is **** ******* **** **** *** vs ****. * ********** **** ******’* Kirkland ********* **-***** *****, *** ** not **** **** ****** ******** ***** procurement *******.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Max Protein | 06/02/21 10:39pm

* ********** **** ******’* ******** ********* in-house *****

********* *** ******* *** ******:

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* ***** ********** ** **** ***** (Kirkland) *** *** *** ******* *** for *** **** ********, **** *** still ******* ** *********** ********* ************.

** ******* *** ********* **** ******* in **** *** ****** ******** ** software **** ******* **** **** *** is ************ ******** **********.

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Max Protein

In reply to John Honovich | 06/02/21 10:53pm

** **** ********** ** ********** ****** be ******* ** * ******’* ***? Verbatim ******.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Max Protein | 06/02/21 11:01pm

*** *******

******: ******** *************** **., ***

**** ** *****

**** **** ******* *** ***-*********

**** ********?

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Max Protein

In reply to John Honovich | 06/02/21 11:05pm

** **** ********** ******* **** ** NDAA ****** ******* **** ******* ********** and ***% *********. *******, ** *** outsourcing ** ** **** ****** ************, then ** ********** ******** (** **** would ****** ** ********* ********* *** protected ***********).

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Max Protein | 06/02/21 11:06pm

*******, ** *** *********** ** ** NDAA ****** ************, **** ** ********** required (** **** ***** ****** ** divulging ********* *** ********* ***********).

** **** ******* ** **** *********** 'protected'?

** ** '*********' *********** *** * packaged **** ******** ** ******** **** ingredients *** ********? * *** ** recommendation ** ********* ** **** *** IoT *******. **** ********?

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Max Protein

In reply to John Honovich | 06/02/21 11:17pm

’*********’ *** ** *** ***** *****, as ** ** *********** ***** ** free ******; ********* ** ** * as * ******** ***** ******* ** procurement *******.

****** ** ******** ** ********** ** a *********** ********* *** *** ********. To **** * **** ******* ************, you **** ** ** ******* ******** of ****** ****; **** ***** ******** resources, *** **** ** ** ****** intellectual ********.

***** ** ** ****** ******* ** disclosing **** ****** ****** *****; ********* so ***** ** ** ********* ** government ******. *** ** ** ***** this ******-**-******* ********** ** *** ******* made ********?

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Max Protein

In reply to John Honovich | 06/02/21 11:30pm

****’* ** *******: **** ** ************ a ******, ** ****** ********** **** 5-10 ********* (*******, *******, ***** ******, dsp, ******, ***). **** ** ** disclose ** *** ******’* ***?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Max Protein | 06/02/21 11:50pm

**** ** ************ * ******, ** source ********** **** *-** *********

****, ****'* *********. ** *** ***, if *** *** '*************' * ****** that's ********* **** **** *** *** most ******** ** *****, **** *********** a ******** *******.

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Max Protein

In reply to John Honovich | 06/02/21 11:58pm

**** *** ******* ****** ******* * distinction ** ** ***** * ***** definition ** “*****-********.”

** ** ***** *******, ** ** reasonable *** ********* ** ******** ** the ******* “*********” ** *** *** is ******* **** **** (**** ****** a ****** *******). ******* *** ********** to ******** *** ***** ******* (**** harms ** ********).

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Max Protein | 06/03/21 12:03am

**** *** ******* ****** ******* * distinction ** ** ***** * ***** definition ** “*****-********.”

****'* *** ** **** ** *********** and *** *** ***** ****** ** the *******, ********* *****:

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Max Protein

In reply to John Honovich | 06/03/21 12:15am

******* ********: *** **** **** ***** requirements **** **’* ******* ******* ** sell **** ********* ** ***‘*? ********* does *** ******* *****. *** ****** and ***** *** **** ****** ** partaking ** *** ***********, *** **** should ** *********, *** **** ******* have ***** ************* (** ****, $$$ fine, ******* ** *******). *** ******** in *** ** ********** *** *** illegal; **** ******* ***** ******* ************.

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to John Honovich | 06/03/21 06:35am

"* ***** ********** ** **** ***** (Kirkland) *** *** *** ******* *** for *** **** ********, **** *** still ******* ** *********** ********* ************"

******* ***** ********** ** **** *** food ******** *** **** **; *** cameras, *** ** **** (****** *** are ********** *** ***** *** ******* to ****** ***, *** *********, ** commiting ***** ****** ******) . *'** bet *** *** *** *** **** other ***'* *** *******, *** **** products ** ****** **** ** ********* their **********. * ****** ** *** PRC **** ** *** ******** **** specifications **** *** ******* ******** ** allow **** ** ***** ** ****** with * ****** ****** ** ******** and ***** **** *** *** *** of * ********, ***** *** ******* distributor ** ********* ** **** ********* and **** **** *** ********* ******** elsewhere, *** ****** ******* ******** *** legally, ******* ********** *** ***.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

In reply to Max Protein | 06/02/21 10:39pm

******* *****. * **** ** ******* whatsoever **** **** ******, *** ** I ***** ****** *** ****** (*** actual ************) ** *********. * **, however, **** ***** ** ** ******* responsibility ** ****** **** ****** ** products **** *** **** ** * federal *** *** *** **** ** national ******** ******** *** **** *****. If **** **** ** ******* **** it, **** ** ** **.

*** ***** ****, * *******, ** that ***** ******** ** **** **** of ******** ***** **** **** ****. And ************ *** **** ***** ********* / ************** ** ***** ***** ** is ********* ****** ** *** ********** here ** ****.

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Blake Murphy

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 06/04/21 01:20am

***** ******* *** ******** "********** ** unethical; **** ****** *** ******** *********". While * ************* **** *****, ****'* we ****** *** *** *****? ***'* this *** **** **** *** **** we're *** ** ****** *********? **** in **** **** ** **** **** with ********** ** **** * *** treason? * ***** * ** **** noting **** ** *** ***** ** be ****** **** **** ***, ** are ***** ** ** ********** *********** in **** *** ***. ***** ***** stills ***** ******.

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Max Protein

In reply to Blake Murphy | 06/04/21 01:36am

** ** ********* *****: * *** not ******* **** ********** ** *********. I *** ****** ** **** ** one ** *** ******’* ******.

** *** *** ******** **** *** things ** ** ************ **** *** in ***** ** *** **** **** individual ********* *** **** ****** ****, including **********? **, ****’* * ***** and ********** *******. ** *’* *** understanding. **** **** **** **** ** do **** **** *** *************?

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to John Honovich | 06/02/21 10:10pm

* ****'* ********* ** ********* **** you, * **** *** ****** **** that.

* ******* *** *************** ** *** tone *** ******** ** *** ******* is ****** ************. ** ***** **** like ***'** ****** *** ***** ********* and ****** ** *** ****'* ***** do ********* ***** **!

***** *** **** ***** *****é ****** here, *** **** *** ****** **** like *** *** ******** * ***** and **** ******* ******** **** * bad ****** *** **** **** *****.

** $*.**, ***** **** *** **** for **.

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to John Honovich | 06/03/21 05:29am

"* ** *** ***** ** **** you ** *********.

******* ** ****, ****** ********* ** things?

**** ** **** **** (*** ******* of ** ****** *****) *** *********, as ** **** ** **** **** produces. ** *** ********* *** *****, that ****. *** ******** ** * big *****. ** *** ******** **** the ******** *** *********** *******, *** are ******* ** **** * ********** counterargument."

** ** *** ******* ** **** relabelers *** ***** *** **** **** are ********* ******* *** **** *********? I'm ****** ******* ****** ******* *** stories ** **** **** *** ***** of **********. **** *** *** ********* to ** *** ******** ** ********** products ******* **** ********* ***'* ******** are **** ********* ** **** *** and ****** **** ***** ****** *******. If ***** ******** **** *** **** purchased ** **** ******** ** *** specific ******** ********** ****** ***** ******** that ******* *** ** **** ** assist ** *** ******** ** ************ believed ***** ****** ******, ** ***** be ** ** *******/******* *** ** would *** ****** ****** **** ****** they ******** ******* ** ***** ** longer ** ********* ** ** **? I ***'* *** ********** ** ** unethical ********. ** *'* *** * say " ******* ** ******* * house ***** ** *** *** *** why ** **** ** **** ********. If ** ***** *** ******* ** not **** ********* (***** *** ****** ask ***** - ********* ** *** an ****** ****'* **** *** ******** system ****** ***** ***) *** *** purchase *** *** ** ** ****** it ** * ****** **** ** illegal, **'* ** *** *** *** end ****. ** ** *** ***** it ***** **** *********, **'* ** us. ** *****'* ****** ******* ** not ** ***** ** ******** **** compliance ** *** ****** ** *** legally ********* **" ***** **** ****? This ******* ** ***** ** ********** from * *********** *** *** ****'* go ** ****** ********* **********? ** I'm ***** ** ********* ** ***** gas ******* ********* ***** *** *********** used ** ******* ***** ******** **** blends, ******** **** ****** ***** **** I **** ** ********* ** *** locations ** *** ******** ******* *** then ***** ** **** *** ******'* responses ***** * ********* ********** **** as *********** ********..

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 06/02/21 09:35pm

"**** ***** * *** **** *** "blog" ********** **** *** *** ** frequently ******* **"

*** **** *** - "** ***** without ***** ********* ** *** ********* comments **** **** ***** *** *** then ******* ** * ****** ***** such ******"

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to John Honovich | 06/03/21 05:00am

"*** ***** ** ** ****** *** various ******* **** *********** **** ** that *** ****** *** ** ****** informed ** *** ******* ****. **** that ****?"

** - * ****** *********** ******** by * ****** *******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to John Honovich | 06/03/21 06:00am

"*** ***** ** ** ****** *** various ******* **** *********** **** ** that *** ****** *** ** ****** informed ** *** ******* ****. **** that ****?"

*'* ***** ****** ** ********* ** this *** ***** *** *********** *** more ******* **** *** **** *** listed ** *** ******* ** "***" and *** **** ***** ******* *** you ********* ** ***** ** ******* these ****** *** *** "***" ******* as *** *** ******* ********* **** one *********** ** * ****** *********? 5, **, ***? *** *** **** other *******? *** ***********; * *** weak...

"******* ***'* ***** ** ******* *******'* finished ******* (***********) ********** ********** ********* behavior *** ***** ****** *** *** deceived ** *** *******."

** *** *** *********** *** ******** in *******? *********? ** *** *** generalizing; **** ********* ******** ** ********** other **** *** ****** **** ***'** attempting ** **** ** **** ********* here?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #6 | 06/03/21 01:39pm

*’** ****** ** ****** ** ***** people **** *** **** *** ***** with ******* ******* **** ****. ********* I **** **** ** ****** ** on *** ***** ** ** ******* segments **** ***** *********. ** *’* quite ********* **** **** **** ********** sales ****** *** ** ****** ********** of **** **** *********** ***.

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Undisclosed Distributor #3

06/02/21 09:57pm

****** ***** *** *********** ******* **** to *** ******** ******* * **** that **** **** ** ***** *********** should ** ******.

** *********** * ** *** **** new **** ** *** **** & skin ******* ** *** ********.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #3 | 06/02/21 10:01pm

* ***** * ********** ******** ***** be ********* ********** ******* ** ********** guidelines, ****:

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*** *** *** *******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to John Honovich | 06/03/21 03:17pm

** ***** ** **** *** ******* just ****** *** *** *** **** nutritional.

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #3 | 06/03/21 03:20pm

"****** ***** *** *********** ******* **** to *** ******** ******* * **** that **** **** ** ***** *********** should ** ******.

** *********** * ** *** **** new **** ** *** **** & skin ******* ** *** ********."

*'* ******** ***** ********* *** ********* analytics ** ** **** ********* ***** suffice..

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

06/02/21 10:14pm

**********, * ** **** *********** **** this ** ***** *** *** *****. But **** ** **** ** ******* I've *** ** **** **** **** customers **** ****'* **** **** **** buying ********* ******* ****** ***** ****** making *** ******** ** (*************) ***** after ****'** **** *** ********. ** both *****, **** **** **** **** deceived.

* *** **** ********** ** * common ****** **** ** "*************" *** don't **** ** ******** **** ***** own ***** -- *** ****'* ********* acceptable -- *** **** *** ******* itself ******** *** **** *** ********* aren't **** ** *****, **** * feel ****'* *********. **** ** ****, though, ***** ** *** ********** / reseller **** ******** **** *** ******** to *** ******** *** *** *** manufacturer. **'* ***** ************** **********, *** if **** ** ***** ****** **** them, **** ****** *** ************ ** being ********* *** *** ****** ** known ** *****, ** *** ******** for *** ***** ***** *** ********* to ****** ****'** ******* ****** ********, or (****** ******) ****.

** *** *** ** *** ***, I ******* **** ****** **** *** a ******* **** **** ******* ****** sells ***** ******* (******** ** *********) or ** **** ******* ** ********. As **** *********, *****'* * *** of ***** ****** *** *** ** online ** ********* ****** **** ** critical ** ******* **** ***'* ***** with.

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 06/03/21 05:42am

" ** **** *********, *****'* * lot ** ***** ****** *** *** do ****** ** ********* ****** **** be ******** ** ******* **** ***'* agree ****"

**** *** ** ****?

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Garry Clark

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 10/13/21 02:12pm

*** ************ ****** *** ***** *** product **** **** *** ** ** not **** *** **** ** *** SI ** *** ***, ** **** with ****.

** * ***** * *** ** a **** *** ** ****** **** out *** ***** ** *** **** and **** **** **** *** *** , ** **** *** ******.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5

06/02/21 11:57pm

***** ** ******* ********** ********* ***** relabeling ** *** *** *** ************ this **** ** *** *** ****** it. ****** ***** ******** **** **** in **** ******** ****** ******** *** intangible ********. ***** ****** ** ******* stores, ******* ******* ******, *** ******** service *** ******* ********.

************* ** **** * ********* ****** product ***, ** ****, ** ***** rights ********** ***\** ******** ******** ******** especially ** *** ******** **** ******* confidential ****.

******* *** *** ****** ***** *** government ** **** ******** ***-********* ******* the *** **** **** ******* ******* warnings ** ******* *** ******* ********. My ********: ** ** ****-************ ** force ** *** ** ******** ***** source, *** ** *** ****** ******** to ***** **** *** ** ***-**** compliant.

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #5 | 06/03/21 07:13am

"************* ** **** * ********* ****** product ***, ** ****, ** ***** rights ********** ***\** ******** ******** ******** especially ** *** ******** **** ******* confidential ****. "

********* ****** ** ******** *** *********; not ****** *** ***** ** *** moment. ** ******* ** *** *** government ****'* *** **** ******** *** all *** *********; ***** * ******** security ****** *** ***. *** *** do *** *** ***** ** *** first *****? *** *** *** ** charged **** * ****** ****** ** widespread *********** ** ****** ************ ** we ***'* **** ** ***** ***** hik *** *****. ***'* ****? **'** going ** **** **** *** ********** - ****, **** *** ****** ****** up. *** *** **** ***** ****** human ****** ******; ** ***'* **** them * *** *** ** *** feel **** ** *** ********* **** to **** ****** *** *** *** acts. ***** *** *** *** ** collect ** **** *********** **** ** but *** *** *********** ***'* **** a ****. * **** ** **** better *******. *'* ******** ****** **** the **** *** *****.

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Ross Vander Klok

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #6 | 06/03/21 01:34pm

*** *** ** *** *** ***** in *** ***** *****?

*****......... ******* ** ** *** **********?

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RICHARD STUART

In reply to Ross Vander Klok | 06/07/21 01:20pm

**** ****** ******* *** ************** ** the **** *** **** **** ***** in *** *********** ** * ******** authorization. ***** **** *********** ** ******** to ** *******.

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Blake Murphy

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #5 | 06/04/21 01:24am

** ******* ** ****** ********** ** the ******* ** ******. **** ** why * *********** ******* **** ** many... ******* ** ****** **** ** a ***** ****** **** "******** **********" & ***** ******** ********* ******* ** on-selling **** ** **** ** ***'?

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

06/03/21 03:11pm

"*****......... ******* ** ** *** **********?"

*** **

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Undisclosed #7

06/09/21 06:01am

** ** **** ***** ****** * start -- *** *** **** **** can ***** ** **** ******* -- Ido ******, ****, ** ********* *** *** or ***** ******** (** *** ** the ******* *************, *** **** ******), and ** **** * ******** ********* against ****. **** ** *** * post ** ******* ** ***** ******** in *** ***, *****, ** ****.

**** **** -

**** ** ** ********** ********* ****.

*****, *** **** ** **** ********** is *** ********* **** *** ************ should ** ******** ** *********, ******* it ** *** ********* **** ******* everyone. ***** * ***************** *** * ********** *** ** these ********, *** ******* ** **** there ** ***.It ** *** ************** ** *** ***** ** ****** ** **** ** *** ***** **********************.*** ****** *** ** ********** ** portray ***** ************* ****** **********, *** beyond ****, ***** ** ** "**********" on *** **** ******** ** ******** -- ****** *** ******** ******** ** outside ** ** -- **** ***'* meet **** ******** *************. ** ******* within *** ******** ** ***/***** ***** printers -- **** **** ** ****-********* version, *** *** ******** ****** *** not ****-********* *** ***** ** ** "NOT **** *********" ***** ******** ** them. *** ****** ***** **.

******, ***** * ***'* ******* ** and ***'* *** ** ********* ********* products, *** ******** ** ********** ******* in ***** ******** *** ** *** from ********* ** *******. ***** ** nothing ********** ********* ***** **. *****, it ** ** ** *** ***** to ********* *** ********** ** *** devices **** ****** ** ***. ** this ** * ******** ***** *** the ***** *** *** ****** ******* to ******** **? ***** ****, *** buyer ****** ** ********* ****.

****, **** ******** ** ******* ** interaction **** * *********** ** ********* that * **** ******* ** *** past. ** ***** **** **** ***** is ** **** ******** ** **, but ** *****'* **** **** ******** any **** ********. ****** *** ******* (to ** *****, ******* ******* * have ** ********** ******* *** ******** don't ******) *** ********* ***** **** based **** ** *********** **** * salesperson ** ******** ********** ** *** clickbait ********* **** ***** *** ** times. ****** **** *********** ** ******? Yes. ** **** * **** ********** of ***? ** ******. **** *** inclusion ** *** ** **** ******* make ** ****** ** *** ***? Absolutely ***.

***** ***** ** ***** ********** ********* the ***** ** **** ****.

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John Honovich

IPVM | 06/09/21 03:32pm

*****, *** **** ** **** ********** is *** ********* **** *** ************ should ** ******** ** *********, ******* it ** *** ********* **** ******* everyone.

*** ***'* ******** ******* **** ** a ******* *********, *.*., **** ********* only ***** ** ** ********* ** it ******* ********. ** ********* ** illegal ** ********* ** * ****** of ******, ** ** ***** ********** and **** *********** ****** *********. **** and ***** *** ** ******* **** of ****, **** ** **** * out ** *** ****** ***** ** made **** ** **, ** ** still *********.

******, ***** * ***'* ******* ** and ***'* *** ** ********* ********* products, *** ******** ** ********** ******* in ***** ******** *** ** *** from ********* ** *******.

**** ****** ****** ****** **** *** make **** *******. ** *** ***** it's ******* ** **** ***'* ******, make *** **** *** ***'* ****** to *** ***** ** *******. **** of ********* ****** ****** ******** *** that **** *** **** ** *****.

**** *** ********* ** *** ** this ******* **** ** ****** ** any ***? ********** ***.

*** ********* ** *** ***** **** is **** * ***** ****** (*** US' ******* ******** ***********) *** **** the ******* **** ***** **** ****** controversy **** -*** ******** ******** *****.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

10/13/21 02:07pm

** *** **** ***** *** ********* of *** *******, ***-****** *** ** enrolling.

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

10/14/21 04:45am

** ******* ****** **** ** ******** if **** *** ******* ******** ***.

**'* * ********** ***** ** **** who ******** **** ********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

10/21/22 02:32pm

* ******** ****** * ****** *-****** camera. ** **** ** *** ************ in *******.

**'* ** ************* ******* ** * communist *******, *** *********, **** *** a "******* *******-******** ***-***** ********* ********."

*** ** ****** **** ******* ********** = *** *** ********** ********** = good?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 10/21/22 02:35pm

***** *** **** *** **** **, why ******'* *** *** **** ** cameras?

*'** ***** ******* ** ****** **** Vietnam ** ***** ******** ** ******. If *** **** *** *** **** create * *** ********** ** ** gets ********.

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