Reed Reverses, Demands 100% Penalty For Exhibitors Dropping ISC West 2021

By John Honovich, Published Jun 04, 2021, 08:10am EDT (Info+)

The deal has become much worse for manufacturers. Last month, Reed told IPVM that exhibitors could drop ISC West 2021 with a 20% penalty. Now, 3 exhibitors have confirmed to IPVM that Reed is demanding 100% loss for exhibitors dropping. Reed refused to respond.

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Inside this note, we examine how this could help ISC West 2021, further harm Reed's relationship with exhibitors, and increase risk for the 2022 show.

20% ****** ********

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** *** **, ****, **** **** a ***** ***,****'* **** ****, *** ***** ** ******* *** West, **** **** ***** ***** ** a **% ********* ***:

** * ******** ******* ***** ********** to *********** ** *** ** *** options *********, ** ***** **** ** obligation ** *** *** *****, *******, partners *** ***** *** *** **% retention *** - ***** ** * provision ** *** ******** - ******* some (****** *** ****** ***) ** those ********.

Now, ***%, *** **********

*******, * ********** **** ********* ** us, ********** ******* ** ******** **% ** *** *** *** table *** *** ********* *** / penalty ** ***%:

***** ********* ** ****. ** **** told **** **** **** (**** *** show *** ***** ** ****) **** we ***** **** *** ****** ** pay * **% ******* *** **** the **% **** ** ****. *** Reed ** ********* ** ******* ** 1/2 *** **** ** ********* ** or **** ***% ** *** **** cost...
**** ******* ** *****: ******** *** get *********** ******** ** ******* ** 2022. **** ** **** ** ****, lose ** ***.

Reed ** ******* ********, ****** ****** ********

** ****** ***** **********' ******** **** Reed's **** **** *** *** *** respond.

*******, **** **** ** ***** **** month **** ****'* ******** ** **** the ********* ******** ****** **** ** not **** *** ****** ** ********** withdraw:

*** ********** ******* **** *** **** is **** **** **** ** **** be ******* *** ***** *** *** contract ******** **** ********* ***** ** payment ** **** ** **** ******** from *** *****.

***** **** ** **** *********** ******* exhibitors ** ****** ***** (*.*., ** an ********* ******* ** **** *** West **** * ***** ****** *** show), ** **** *** ***** ****** with *** ***** *** ** **% refund, *** ******** ********* ** *************.

********** ****** ** ** **** *** a ***** **** **** **** **,***+ attendees, *** ***** ********** *** ***** forced ** ******* ** ****** ***** at * **** **** **** ** fewer ********* ********* ** **** *** they ****.

Helps **** ********* *****

** *** ******** ****, *** *** 2021 ****, **** ****** **** ********* count. ** ********** *** ***** ** lose *** ***** ***** ** **** do *** *******, **** ***** ** well *******, **** ** ******* ******* staff ** *** **** ** **** return **** *** **** *****.

** **% ****** ***** *** ******* over ** ****, *********'* *** ********** ** * **** with **-**% ***** **********, ** ********, ** * ********** deal ** ****. ******, **** **** an **% ****** **** ****, ****** only ***** ******* ** ******** ** ****/********* **** Reed.

Risks **** ****

*** ****, ****** ** *** *** 2022 ****, **** ** ***** ** exhibitors ******* ****** ** ******* **** year *** *** ********** **** *** entire **********. ******** ********** ** **** over ** **** ***** ******** *********** for **** ****'* ****, ***** ** being **** **** * ****** ***** this ***.

********* ***** ** **** *** **** significant *** **** **** * **** (e.g., **** ************ ******** ********** ** *** ****: **** *** SIA **** *************).

**** *** **** **** ***** *** exhibitor ***** *** **** *****'* **** (though ******** ***** ** *****, **** **% **** *** ******** show). *******, **** *** **** ********* their ********** *** *** **** ****, risking * *********** ** ******* ********** or ******* ****** **** ****.

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Comments (52)

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

06/04/21 12:31pm

** *** **********, ****'* *** ******. I ***'* **** ****'* **% ********** position, *** * ********** **. *******, in ** *******, ***% ********** ** just **********.

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Undisclosed #2

06/04/21 12:37pm

***** ******* ** *** ****** **** manufactures ***** ****** ** *******:

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

06/04/21 12:49pm

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06/04/21 12:53pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

06/04/21 01:09pm

*'* ******* ** *** **% **** thinks **** ****. ** ********* ** Reed **** ****** *********** ** ****?

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 06/04/21 01:19pm

*****'* ** ***** ***** *** *** have ** **** *******, ** *** as * ****. *******, ** **** case *** ***** ***** *** "**** well" *** **** ** **********, * manufacturer, *** ** "*****".

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 06/04/21 02:36pm

* ***** *** "**** ****" ******* I ****'* ***** ****** **** ***** actually ****** **** ******, * *** surprised ** *** **** ***** ** begin ****. * ***'* ***** ****** in ***** ***** **** *** ******** Reed's ******** ** **** **** ** be ******** ***** **** **** **** of ********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #7

06/04/21 02:02pm

**** *****, ******* *********** *** **** to **** * ***** **** :)

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Clint Hays

Genetec | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 06/04/21 03:54pm

** **** ***** *****, ******!!!

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Undisclosed Distributor #8

In reply to Clint Hays | 06/04/21 09:06pm

** ******* **** */* *** ******* about * **** ** * *** to ******** & **** *** * am ********** ** **** ***** ** a ********* *****.

** *** *****, **** ***** ***** you *******?

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to Clint Hays | 06/05/21 05:20am

"** **** ***** *****, ******!!!"

****** ***** ** ****** *** **** round ** ***** ****. **** **, what *** * ******** ** **** until ****.

**** ** **** **** * *** thinking ****** ***********, ******, ** ** outdoor *****.

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Undisclosed Distributor #8

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #9 | 06/05/21 09:43am

**** ** **** **** * *** thinking ****** ***********, ******, ** ** outdoor *****.

*** ***** **** *** **, *** making * *****......... ***, *****, ***** & *********?

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #8 | 06/06/21 04:18am

"*** ***** **** *** **, *** making * *****......... ***, *****, ***** & *********?"

*******, ******. ****** *********. *** **** quite **** ** *****; **** ****** place *** * ******** **********?

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Horace Lasell

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #9 | 06/07/21 09:22am

* ******** ******** * ****** ** summer ***** ** ****** * *** years ****** *******, **** ** ******** wife... ** *** *****! *'** ****** have * **** **** ** ** heart *** ****** :)

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Jeff Santeramo

In reply to Clint Hays | 06/15/21 01:24pm

*******.

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Scott Whittle

IP Technology Labs
06/04/21 02:13pm

** *** **********, *** **** ***** thing *** **** *** **** ******* on *** *****. *** ***** **** close ** *** ***** ** *** exhibition ** ** *** ***** ***** is * ***% ****** ***.

*** ***** ** **** *** **** is *** ******** ** ******* *** volume ** **********....*** *** ***** ****'* changed. *** ****'** *** ** ***** for ***** ** **+****** ***.

*** ** ******* **** ***** *** in *** ****** **** ********** *** expense *** ********.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Scott Whittle | 06/04/21 02:29pm

***** *** ** *** ******

*** ****** ** ********* *** **** a ****, ******* **’* ** ******** or ******** ** ******* *** ** Google *** ** ***** ***********. ** point ** * ***** **** **** industry ********* *** *** ******* ** tradeshows *** **** ********** *** ******* put **** ****** **** **** *** situation ******* **** **** ****** **** a ********* *****, ** *** ***, the ***** ***** *** **** *** the ****** **** ** *** ****.

*****, *** **** ****** ********* ** you ** *** **** **** *** recently ********** ** ****** ****?

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to Scott Whittle | 06/05/21 05:28am

"*** ***** ** **** *** **** is *** ******** ** ******* *** volume ** **********....*** *** ***** ****'* changed. *** ****'** *** ** ***** for ***** ** **+****** ***."

******* ****** ** ******** ****** "***** give *** ***** ****".

**** *** ******* **** **** ******** and **** ***********, *** ** ***'* should ** **** ** *** ** booths ** **** ***** *** **** trip *** ** *** ******* ***. They **** *** **** *** **** and ******* ***** *******. ****, ***'* cameras **** **** **** *** *****....

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #9 | 06/05/21 11:06am

******* ****** ** ******** ****** "***** give *** ***** ****".

* *** ** ****** ****, ** in **** ****** **** *** *** get **** *********,*** *********:

**********(/*Ι™Λˆ*Ι›Ε‹Ι‘*/) *** * ************************* ********* *** *************** ******************** ****...

******* ******* ** ********, ********** ****** ***** ****, ** ******* ** *** *********** of ****** ** *** ******* ****. Many ******** ******* **** ** ***** to * ******* *******, **, *** example, ******* ****** ******** ****** ****** to *** ****, *** ******* ******* rites ******* ********** *** *** ********'* remains. ******* ********** ********** ***** *** "Rules ** ***********", * ********** ** proverbs **** *** **** ** ****** Ferengi ******** ********* (**** ** "***** place ********** ***** ******"[**]);

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06/05/21 02:47pm

**** ****, **** **** ***% ** any ******** ********** **** *** *********...

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Undisclosed Integrator #11

06/06/21 11:30pm

*** ***** ********* **** ******** ***** an ********* **** **** ***** *** the *********** **** ***** ***? ***** poor ******** ** *** **** ************ reflects ***** ****** *** **** ** something **** **** ***** ******. **** me **** ***** ** ***, **** me *****, ***** ** **.

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John Honovich

IPVM | 06/07/21 11:55am

*** ****:

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** *** *** **** **** * month ***, **** *****'* **** ******* are ***** ** *** **** ** last ***** ****** * ******** ***** ratio ******* "***' *** '** ****** I ******* ** **'.

** **** ***** ** ************** ** actual **********, **** ********* **,*** ** 11,000 ********* ****** ****** ****'* **,***.

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Brian Karas

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In reply to John Honovich | 06/07/21 02:08pm

**** ********* **,*** ** **,*** ********* versus ****** ****'* **,***.

*'* ** ******* **** **** **** as ** *********.

** *********** ** **** *** **** majority (** *** *********** ***) ** the ********* *** ***** ** ** from ***** *******, ** **** *** US. ****'* ** **** ****** ******** right ***, *** **** ** ** were ******** ********, "*****" ********* *** going ** ** *** ******* ** follow ** **** ***** *** **** for *** **** *****.

* ** **** ******** **** **** of ***** ********* *** ***** ** be ** *** "***'* *** **** to ********" *******, *** **** ****** to **** ****-**** ******** ** ********** of ********* *** ******* ****** *** of ****.

**** ** *******, * ***** **** whole ******** ***** **** **** ******* markedly ******, *** *** ******* ****** of ** ** ****** ** ** be **** ** ***** (*** ******** however ***'* ***** *** *** **** of ****, *** **** ** ****** in *****).

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Undisclosed #12

06/07/21 12:55pm

** **** ** *** **** *** Reed ** ****** ************* *** ***% as ** ******** * **** ** longer *** **** ** *** **** run ***** *****. *** ******** **** many ********** *** ******* *** *************, while ** *** **** **** ********* are ******** ** **%, ** *** 100% ** *****

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Jason Crist

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #12 | 06/07/21 01:27pm

****, ***** ****'* **** ****'* ********. Let's ******* *** ****** ** ************* versus ****.

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Jason Crist

IPVMU Certified | 06/07/21 01:23pm

***** ** *** *** ******* ** laughable, ** ***** * ******* ******* to ***** **** ** ******* ** on **** *********; *'* *** **** are ****** ** *******. *'* ******** they ****** ** ** ********* ** stall *** ******** ** ************* ******** out. ****'** **** ******* ** *** bad *** *** * ***** *** and **'* **** * ***** ***** emotion **** **** ***** **** - hating "*** ***" *** "****** ***********" bs. * **** ***** *****, * get * *** ** **** **** them, * **** ** *** *** friends *'** **** **** ** ***** in **** ******** *** *** *********** to **** ****. * **** ****** my ******* *** *********** ** ***** some ** ***** ********* ******* ** me, * **** ***** ** **** restaurants, * **** ****** *** ***** things ***** ******, * **** ** pizza *** **** ********** *** *** to *****.

** *** ***** ****** ** *** of **** *** ********* ****'* **** here **** ** ******** * ***** without *** *****, ******* ********* **** Reed. *** **** ******** **** *** COVID ******** *** ****? ***** ******** was *********. ****** **** ******* ** hear **** *** ******** ************'* ****** contained ** *** ** ************? * certainly ***** **** ** *** ** the **% ** ***% *** ** the ******** ****** ******* **** *******. Was *** **% * ******** ******* and *** ***% ******** **** *** allowed ** *** ********? * ***** that's ********* *********** ** ******** ***** forming ** ******* ** ****. ****** way, *'* *** ********** ** ** IPVM ******* ***** * **** ********* to **** ** **** *** ****** between **'* *** **'* *** *** rest ** ** ****** - * imagine **** ** **** ********** ** that.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jason Crist | 06/07/21 01:57pm

** ***** * ******* ******* ** think **** ** ******* ** ** this *********; *'* *** **** *** trying ** *******

*********, ********** ******* ******* ** ****'* **********, as ********* ** ********* ********, **** is ** ********** ********** ********:

***** **** ********** *** ***** **** incurred, ****'* ******** *** **** ********* profitable **** *** *****. *** *******,** ****, ***** ** *****, **** *** an ********* ****** ** ~$*** ******* USD *** * **% ********* ****** margin (***** ** ****** **** ********* all ** ***** **********). [**** *********** total **** ******* *** ~$*.* *******]

**** **** *** ****** ***** ** exhibitors ** **** ***** **** *** profits *** ****** *** **** ** their ****. ***, ** *** *****, when **** **** *** ******* *****, Reed ******* *** ********** ** ***** pay.

** ***:

**** ** ******** * ***** ******* ISC *****

*** ** ***** ** ******** **** after **'** *** ****, ******** ***** shows **** ****** **** ********* **** the **** ** ***** *** **** physical *********** *** *** ***** ****.

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Jason Crist

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 06/07/21 02:05pm

***** ** ***** ******* *** ****, I *** **, ***'** *** ** those ****. **** *** ** ***** guys ********* ** ******** * ******* option.

**** "*****" *** *** ******** ** that **** ** *** **********?

*** *** ***** ** *** *********** cancellation *******?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jason Crist | 06/07/21 02:10pm

*** *** ***** ** *** *********** cancellation *******?

**** **** **** ****** * **-**% drop ** ******** *** *** **** next *****.**** ***** **** *** ********** *** the ******** *****, **** **%.

**** "*****" *** *** ******** ** that **** ** *** **********?

** * **** ** *** ****:

********** ****** ** ** **** *** a ***** **** **** **** **,***+ attendees, *** ***** ********** *** ***** forced ** ******* ** ****** ***** at * **** **** **** ** fewer ********* ********* ** **** *** they ****.

*****, * ** ***** ** ******* this **** *** *** *** *** please **** *** **** ***** ***** all ** **** *** **** *********.

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Jason Crist

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 06/07/21 02:24pm

***** - *** *** ***** ** what *** ******** **** ** *** as ************ ******? *** **** **** pull ***% *** ** **** *** or *** ** ** *** ********? Are **** ** ****** ** ******** or *** **** ********* ****'* ** writing? *** ********** ** *** * chicken ** *** *** **** ****, vendors ****** *** **** ****** ******* down. * **** ******* **** **** is * ****** *** *** ******* policies, **** *** ****** ** ***** up *** ********* ** *** ****.

*'* ******* **** ***** ****, ****** for ****** * **** ** **, but **** *** ************* ** **** aspects. **** *****, **** ***** ** retain ******* ** ****** "*****", ***'* knock **** *** **** ********* ***. Is ***** * ******** *** ****? Do ****** **** **** ** *** everyone *** ** *** ******** *** cancel *** ****? ** **, ** people **** ******** ** ****** **** have ****** ***** ** "******" ** take * ****? ** ***** * specific ********** ** ******** ******** **** trips ****'* ******** ** **** *********? You ******* *** *** ***** ******* of **%, ******* ** *** ****'* accurate ** **** *** ******? *****, is **** *** ******* ** ****'* in *******?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jason Crist | 06/07/21 06:49pm

*** **** ** ****** ** ******** or *** **** ********* ****'* ** writing?

**** ***** ** *** * ***** to ****** ** ** ********* ***** it ** *****.

**** **** **** ** **** ***** objection ** ****** ***:

IPVM Image** *** ***** '********* ************' ** was *********/*********** * ***** (***** **** to **** ****, **** **** ** October ****, ******* **** ** ***** 2021, ***** **** ** **** ****.).

** ****** **** **** ** *** everyone *** ** *** ******** *** cancel *** ****?

** ** ***** *** **** **** that ********** ********** ***? **** ****** up *** *** **** ****, **** are ******* *** **** **** **** a ********* ******, ********* **** ** the **** *** *** ***** **********.

*'* ******** ** *** ********** **** blindly ******* **** *** ***

** *** ***** *** *** ***** and *** **% ** ****** ****** that *** **** ******* **** *** very **** *** ******? ** **** an *** **** **** ********** ********* / ******* ** **** *** *****'* lots ** ********* *** **** **** has ******* **** ******.

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Jason Crist

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 06/07/21 08:34pm

** * **** ** ****** ** default ****, *** ******** ** ******* allows *** *** ***% ************ ******? OBVIOUSLY ******** *** ** ****** ** a ***** ** *** *** * was ****** ** *** ** ** was ***** ******* ***** *** ********, ethics *****. (*** ******* ****** ***** other **** ** ******* *** ******* of *** ********)

****** *** ******* **** **** **, perfect ************ ** **** *********** *** emotional ******** ********* ******* ****. * mean ******, *** **** **** ******* a ********* **** ******* *********/*********** *** postponed ************? **** ****, ** ******, you *** * ****** ** *****, and ***** *** **** ****** ** be ********. **'* ** **** *** I ***** *** ****** ***** ** them ****** **** *** ** ***** that ***'** ***** **********. ** *** as **** **** * ***'* ***** the ********* ** ******** ***** ********* manufacturers ****** ***'* ***** ** ******, I ***** **'* * ********** ** opinions **** ***** **** **** **** in *** **** *** * *** that. ** *** ***** **** **** is ********* * ***** **** **** at *** ******* *** **** **** Corp ** **'* ***? ***. ***** they ***** ******* **** * **** from *** ********** ********** *****, *'* sure ***** ******* ** * *** different - **** **** ** ****** huh?

*'* *** ****** **** **** *** doing * **** ** ***, **'* a ***** ********* *** * **** compelled ** ***** ** ******* ********** of *** **********

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********* *** **** ** **********, ** least ****** *** *** ** ***** off **** ****** **** ***** *** walk ****** ********* ** *** *** everything **. ***'* ****** ****!

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jason Crist | 06/07/21 09:31pm

*** ******** ** ******* ****** *** the ***% ************ ******?

*** ******** ** *** *** **** 2020. *** **** **** ***** ********. How **** ** ********** *** **** contract ** ***** ** *** **** show ** ******* ** **.

**** ****, ** ******, *** *** a ****** ** *****, *** ***** you **** ****** ** ** ********

* ****** ** ** ******** *** the ********* **** *** ****** ** be *****. **** ******* * ******* wants ** ******** *** ***** ** a ******* *** **** *** **** IPVM ***** ** ****** *** ********.

*****'* **** * *** ** ******** shows ******** ** **** - ***, GSX, *****, ********, *******. *** **** is *** **** *** **** ********** 're-scheduled' ***, ** ***** ******* ** have **** **********, *** **** ************ in ******** ****.

*** *** ******* ** ******* **** you *** *** *** **** ******* and *** ***** ************* ******* **** with ** ******* *'** ********** **** or *** *** **** *** ******* that **** *** *********** ******* **** customers **** ***** **** ******** ** the ****.

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In reply to John Honovich | 06/07/21 09:38pm

**** *** ** *** ***** **** someone *** ******* **** ** ***** on *** **** ** *** *************.

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 06/07/21 10:42pm

"**** *** ** *** ***** **** someone *** ******* **** ** ***** on *** **** ** *** *************. "

**** ** ** *** **** ** IPVM

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Jason Crist

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 06/08/21 12:46am

* ***'* **** ***, *** *** be ******** ******* ** ******** *** still *** * ******* ** ** IPVM ****** ********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to John Honovich | 06/07/21 10:41pm

"*** *** ******* ** *******"

** **** ** ******* *** *** time **** ******* ** ******** **** interesting *******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to John Honovich | 06/07/21 10:31pm

"*********, ********** ******* ******* ** ****'* **********, as ********* ** ********* ********, **** is ** ********** ********** ********:"

*** *** ****** **** ** *** an ********** ********** ****-******* ******* **** a **** ** ****'* **********.

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IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #9 | 06/08/21 12:40am

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #13

In reply to Jason Crist | 06/07/21 02:08pm

*****,

* ********** **** *** *** ****** but *** ** ***** *** ** looks **** * ************ *** *** been ****** ** ****** *** **** for * **** **** ****. ** this ************* ********* ****** *****, ** lost $**,*** **** ** ***** **** management ******* ******* **** ********* * week ****** *** **** **** ** March ** ****. * ***** ** can *** ***** **** **** *** not ******* ****. ** **** * decent **** ***** *** *** ** big ** ******. * *** **** imagine **** ****, ***, ****** *** other **** ******* ** **** ******* decision.

** ****, **** *** *** ** booth ***** *** * ***** *** and **** ****** ******* ******** ** it. * ** *** ******* ******** on *** **** ***** ***** ***. Yes, **** *** ********* *** *'** paid **** *** ***** ******** ** cancel **** ****. ** **** **** tells ** * *** ******** ** space *** **** ** * ******** size ******* *******.....***, ********** **** ** down *************.......**** ** *** ****.

** * *** ** ******, *'* downsize **** *** *** ** ***** Reed. **'* ******* *** ***** ** the **** ** ********* ** **** by */*. ** *** ***** **** has ********* ** ** **** ****** trade ***** **** ****, ***'** ********. It's ***** ***** **** ** ** extraordinary ****. ***, * **** * contract, * **** ******* ** ***. So **** ****. *** ***'* **** me **** *** ***** ***% ****. As * ****** ** ****, **** tried **** ***** ******** **** ** booth ******** ******** * ******'* ****** the ***** **** **** **** ***** my *******'* ***** ***** ** *** from **'* ******** ******** ***** ******** our ******** ** *** **** **** more. ** **** *****, **** ********* the ******* *** *** ** **** to *** ******** ********. ****** ****. But ** ** ****'* ******* ** my *********, **** *****'** ****** **** with **** ****. **'* *** ***** trust, *********** *** *************. **, ***** me *********.

** ** **** **** ** ***** shows *** ** **** **** *** best ** *** **** ** ****. But * ***** **** ** ***** it **** ** ** * **** expense ** **** **** *** **********.

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Jason Crist

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #13 | 06/07/21 02:30pm

***** ***** **** $**,*** ****, **'* bad *** ** *** **** ******* vendor ***** *** * **** *** aren't ******** **** **** *****'** ********* with *** **** **** ****, **** weren't ******* ******* * ***'* ***** and ** **** ****, **** ** don't **** ** **** ***** **** anymore.

*'* *** ****** ****** ** ***** 100% "****" ** ********, ****'* ********** subjective ** ****** **** ** **** thread. ***** *** **** ***** ** trade ***** ******** ** ***** **** the **** ******** **********? * **** reject *** ******* ******* ** **** article, **'* **********, ********* *** ******** the ******'* *********** ********. *'* **** to ******* *** ** *** *** bs ***** ******, *** ****** **** post ** **** ** ***! *'* speaking ** *** ********** **** ******* falling **** *** ***

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #13

In reply to Jason Crist | 06/07/21 05:52pm

****** *** **** ***** *****. ** an ********* **** ******* ** *** form ** *********, ***** ** ** expectation **** * **** *** * certain ***** *** *** * ******* that * *****. *** ** **** can't ******* ** ***** ************* ************* (that's *** ******* ** ** ********), then ***** ***** ** ** * mutual ********* ** **** ** **** for **** ***** *** ************ ** a ****** *****. * **** ****** are *********** *** ** *** ****** to *** **** ** ********. *** really, **** ** ****** ** *** security ********?

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to Jason Crist | 06/07/21 10:46pm

"***** ***** **** $**,*** ****, **'* bad"

*** ******, ******* ** ***********..

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #13 | 06/07/21 10:45pm

"** **** ************* ********* ****** *****, we **** $**,*** **** ** ***** show ********** *******"

***'** **** **** ** ****** ******* elsewhere ** ******* *** ** **** entities...

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Jason Crist

IPVMU Certified | 06/07/21 01:26pm

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Terry Ottinger

06/07/21 01:38pm

We **** ** ***** ****!

***** ** ******** ******** **** *** 100% ********** ******, ** *** *** the ****** ** ****** ** ** there, ** ** *********, **** ****!

**** ** *** ********* ******** *** attending *** *** ******** ******* ***** that **** *** ******* ** *** back ******** (**-******), ** **** ******* on *** ******* **** ** ********** and **** ********* **** **** ******** to **** **** **** ***** ********. We *** ****** ********* **** ***** Manufacturers ** *** ********, *** *** more **** **** *********.

*******ΓΌ** *** * ******* *********** *****, meaning ** **** **** **** *** Tier ********* *** **** ** ************* themselves **** *** ***********. *********, ** don't **** ******* **** ********** ** have ******* ******** *** ********* **** the *** ******** ***********, ********* *** Consulting. ** *** *** ********* ** walk-by ***** ******* ** **** *** exhibit * *******.

For **, ** ****** ** ******* **. ********!

** ********** ** **** **** ** will ****, *********** *** ******** *** latest ***** ********** ********** ***, ** remain ********* ** **** ** ***** opportunity ***** ******** ************* **** ***** who *** ***** *** **** ** our ********!

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to Terry Ottinger | 06/07/21 10:48pm

"**** ** *** ********* ******** *** attending *** *** ******** ******* ***** that **** *** ******* ** *** back ******** (**-******), ** **** ******* on *** ******* **** ** **********"

* **** *** ** ********* ********* are *******...

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Undisclosed Distributor #14

06/07/21 04:26pm

*** ****** ****** ** *** ******* for *** **** ****? ** ** more **** ****** **** ** **** in ****. **** ***** ** ***** to ******* **********, **** *********** ** the ********, **** *********. *** **** should ** ***** ** * **** when ** ** **** ********** ** get *****.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #14 | 06/07/21 06:53pm

** **** ** *********** ** *** what ****** **** ***. * ******* airfares ******* *** * ***'* ****** what **** **** ** **** ** can't *******. *** ******** *** **** sending ** **** ******** ** ******* offers ***** *** ** ** ********** was **** **** **** ****** ** rooms ********* ** ***** ***** *** maybe * ** *****! * ***** think ***** ** *** ****** ****** for ********** ** **** ****** *** Venetian ** ***** ****** ** **** back *** **** *** ***** ***** a *** ** *** ***+ ************.

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to John Honovich | 06/07/21 10:52pm

"** **** ** *********** ** *** what ****** **** ***. * ******* airfares ******* *** * ***'* ****** what **** **** ** **** ** can't *******. "

******* *** ***'* *** ********** *******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #14 | 06/07/21 10:51pm

"*** ****** ****** ** *** ******* for *** **** ****? ** ** more **** ****** **** ** **** in ****."

** **** ******** ** *********** *** some ** *** ******* ******** **** planning ** ******* **** ** * few ***** *****... **** ****** ***** the ******* ***** ****.

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Undisclosed End User #15

06/15/21 01:47pm

*** ***** ****, *** *** ******* today ** ***. ******* *** ************** Meltdown! * ***** **** ** ** on *** *** ** ****.

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