Dahua's Largest UK Distributor Debates IPVM During PRC China Talk

By Conor Healy and Carl Stoffers, Published Oct 13, 2021, 08:55am EDT (Info+)

Tim Duggan, Technical Director of the UK's largest Dahua distributor, Oprema, engaged in a spirited debate with IPVM over PRC China manufacturers Hikvision and Dahua at the NEC Security Event in Birmingham, UK, on September 7.

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***** *** ***** ** ***** ** this ****'* *** ******** ***** ** Birmingham ***** ************ ** *** ***** ****** ******** in ****** ** ********* **. *** **** ** ***, "***** & ******* ********* ********* ***** ************," began **** * ************ **** ******, Healy ****:

*** *** *************** *** *********** ****** the ****, *** *** ***** ********** respectful.

*****'* **** ******* ********* ********'* **** ** *** ***** ********* Party*** *** **** **** $* ******* in ****** ******** *** ********* **** secured ** ********. ** **** ***** about *** ****** **** ******* ******* Hikvision *** ***** ******** *** *** real-time****** ****** ***** **** ****** *********** software.

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*** ******** **** ** ***** ************* law, *** ***** ***, *** ** any ****, ************** ** ******** ******* in *****.

****** ****, **** ** *** ******** atrocities *** '*****' ****** *** ***, it ** ** ********* ************ ********, though ********** *** **** ***** ********** regularly ****.

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***** ********* *** **** **** * focus ***************, *** ** *** **** ****** with ********* *** ***** ********. ****** ****** **** ** * system ** *** ********-*********, ** ** "impregnable." ***** *********:

* *******-****** **** ******* ** ***********, that *************** **** ***** **** ** exploited ** ****** ***** ******, *** that ******** ******* ****** ** **** to **** ********* ** *** ****.

*** ****** ******** * *** ****** IPVM ********* *******'* ****** ******** ***************.

*** "*** ********-*********" ******** ** *********** but ** ******** ************ *********** ** more *** **** ***** **** ** be **** ** ****** ***** ***** surveillance ********. ******, ** ******** ********* *** **** ***** ******** showed, **** * *** ***** ***, massive ******* ** ***** ******* **** being ********* ** *** ********.

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*** ********* ***, ********* *, ***** spoke **** ****** *** ***** ** he'd **** ** **** *** ********** comments, *** ****** ********. **** ********* Duggan's ******, *** ** ******* ** that ************ *** ********* ** **** report.

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**** ********* *** ****** ** *** for ******* ** **** *****. ****** responded ** ********* **** ** *** not **** ** ******* ** ** mentioned:

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*******, *** ****** ****** ** *** interaction *** *** ************' ********* ** the ********, **** ****** **** ** be * ********** *****. **** ******* out ** ******* **** ** ***** not ******* ******** ******* ** ***** conversation *** **** ***, *** ***** focus ** *** ****** ***********. ****** again ******* ** *******.

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** ***** **** **** *** ** agreement **** ********** ***** *** ** used ** **** ***** ****** ** correctly *** *********** *********** ***** ********* them ** *********, **** *** *** what ******* **** *** **** *** to **** ********** *** ******* ********* structure.

**** **** ** ******* *** ******, and ***** ********** ******** *** ********** with ******** ** ****** ************, **** collection *** ** **** ** * way **** ******** ********** ******* *** Human ******. **** *** **** ***** to ********** **, ********** *** ************** of ********** ******** ** ****** ***** where *********** *********, ********, *** ******** have ** **** ** ** ****** place.

********** *** ***** *** ******, *** the *** *** *********** **** ****** structure *** ********** **** ******* ********** privacy ******* ***** ***** ** *** commercial ** ********* ********.

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******* *** *********. *** * ************ with *** **** ****. ** *** like ****** ** * ***** ****. The ****** ** ****** **** ******* all *** ********** ** ** ******* logic *******.

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** ********** ***** ********, "** ** difficult ** *** * *** ** understand********* *** ****** ******* **** *** not ************* **."

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*** *********, **** *** *** ****** fever ******* ****** **** **** **** where ******* **** **** *********

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******* ****** ** *** ***** *****.. thanks.

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******* **** ********……****** ****

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*********** *** **** ******** *** ******* risks *** ******* *** ******* *** continues ** ****** ** ***** **** suggest ******* **** ********* *** ***************.

**** ** * ******** ******* ***** all.

** **** *** ***** ********* ******’* IT ********** ********* *** ** *** products ** **** ** ***** ******** chain ********* **** *********** ***-*** *******. It ** ** ********** ******* *** they **** ** *** *** **** way ** ****** *** ******* ***** not **** *** ********* ** **** on ***** *******.

******* *** ****** ** ****** *** expense ** ****** *** ********* ** its’ *** *******, ********, *** ******** provider.

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**** **** ********* *** **** ** prison ** ********** ***??? *** **** do **** ************* ** ** *** are ***** ** **** ***** **** technology?

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***** ********, *** **** *** **********. Dahua *** ***** ***** ******** *** operates ****, ** *** ** *********** Dahua *** ******* ****** ***** ******* cameras *** **** ***** **** ******* Dahua *******.

******** ** *****'* *********** ** ******** Surveillance

***** ** ********* ************* ** ***** human ****** ****** *** ********* ********* technology ** ***** ***** ******.

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***** ******* *********** ****** ** **********? So **** ** *** **** ** follow ***** ******, *** *** ************?

* ***** ************ *** ********** ***** what **** ** ****** ** ****

** **** **** ** **** *** used?

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*** ***'* *** ******* **** *** company's ******* **** **** ******** ******** supporting ***** ******?

*****, *** ***** ** *** ******* CCTV *** **** *** ******* ************* were ********. ** ******** ***** *********. Plenty ** ******** ***** ***** *** Xinjiang *** ******* ***** ****** ******. Address *****'* ****? ** *** **** the ******** ******* *****'* ***********?

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*** *** *********** ***** **********?

** ******* *** **** **** *** against ***** *** ********* ***. **** like * ***** *** *** **** fighting ******* ********. *** **** *** enemy *** * ********** ****.

*** ***** ************ *** *** ******** in **** * ******* ** **********? Sorry *** **** ** .....

*** * **** ** *********** ***** such * ** ** * *** not ***** ** **** **** *****. The ******* ***** *** ******* ** EU ** ******** ***** ** ******* in ** **** *** **** **** capabilities.

* ** *** *************, ********, ******* or ***** **** * **********

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*** * **** ** *********** ***** such * ** ** * *** not ***** ** **** **** *****.

*** *** *** *** ********, ** is ** *** *******. *** *** too ***** ** **** **** ****.

******** ** *****'* *********** ** ******** Surveillance

***** ******** "****** ********" ** ***** Police

** *** *** *** **** **-******* about **. **** **** *** **** who *** ******** **** ********* ********* documentation.

** **** ************ ****** ** ********** Bay, ** ******** ** *** ************ selling ****** ** ********** *** ******* technology (**** **** ******** *** ** Xinjiang).

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** *** ******** *** ********** ** being ********** ** *** *** ********* camps? ** *** *** *********** ********* at ****** ** **** ******** **** better ***** **** *** ****/***? ** would ** ********** ** ******* ********** with ******** ****** **** *** ******* of *** ** ** **, ****** because ** ******** *** ****** **********.

** ** ***** ** ****** **** Afghanistan ** *** ******* ** ****** and *** **** ** *****, **** in **** **** *** **********? **, grow **.

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***** ** ****** ***** ** ********** logic. *** *** ******* ********** ** either * *** ************** ** * vendor ****** ** **** ** *** idea ** *** ******* **** ******* a ******* ********** ** *** ***. In ****, ** *** ****** **** US *** **** *********** ******** ** do **, **** *** ********** *** helping ********* *** ***** ****** **********, not ** ******* ******* *********** ******* spy ********** *** ****** ********. *** security ******** ** ************ ** ********* the ******** ** *** *****.

** ** **** *********.

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* ***** ** ** ****** * pointless ********, * ** **** **** there *** *********** **** ********** *** have *** *** ******* ** ***** this *******. * ******'* ***** ******* for ***** *** ***, ** ** my ******** ** *** *** ** or **** *** ***** ********* *** I ** **** ********* **** ***** individuals **** **** *** *********** #* use ************ ******** ** ******* ** what **** **. ** *** *** the ******** ************ ***** *** *********** but **** ** ***** ** *** the ******** ****** ********* ** *****. This ** *** ***** ** **** to ***** ** ** ********, *** being ****** ** *** ***** ** aid *** *****.

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* *** *** **** ** *** company ** **** (** * *** on **** ***** ******** ***** **** topic *** **** **** ****), ** they ********* ********* **** **** ** last **** ?

*** *** ************** ******** **** *****. Is **** ******* ?

**** ********** * '*** **** *****China' ******

sorry *** ** ** ******* **** ** ******, **************

*** *** ******* **** ***** ****** and *** **** **** *** ***. As * **** *** **** ** have ** *****. *** *** ************ some *** **** ** ***** ***, your **** ....

**** * ********** ** **** **** time *** * ******* **** ** portal ***** ********** , *** *** changed **** ....

**** ** ** **** ***** ** this **********

*** **** ***** ***** ** ****, this **** *** **** *** *******.

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** ** *** * **** ** at *** ********* :(

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***** ** * ******* , *** a ****, ** *** *** ** be ****** ***** ******* *** ************ products.

*** ****** **** ** ****** *** discrimination *** **** ** *** *** PRC *** ***** *** *** ****?

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**** *** *** ******* ** ***

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* ** *** ******* ******* ** a ****** ** ****** *****.

********* ** **** ******* ***** *** as **** ** ** ** **** ethnic ****** ** *****.

** ******* *** *** ************ *********** the ********** ******* * ******* *** race *** *********.

** *** ***, * **** * great **** ** ******* *** *** government ** *** ***, ***** **** not ****** ** *** ****** ** China. **** ** **** *** ******* of *** *** ******** ** *** PRC **********. ******* *** *** ******* on *** **** ** *** *** government *** ********* **** *** ** it's ******* **** *** ****** ** racism ** ************** ** *** ****** of *****. ******** ** **** * non-PRC ****** ** ******* ***** ***** where ***** ***** **.

*** *** ** ***** ************** ** at ***** *** ** **'* *** ethnic ******, ***** ** ***** **** of *** ********* ** *** *** along **** ***** ** ****** **** concerning *** ***** ****** ********** ** the ****** ******.

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** *** ********** ********* ****:

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**'** ******** *** ******* ************ ** well ** *** ******* **** **** this ****, ** *** *** ****** more ** *** ****** ******.

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* *** *** **** ** *** company ** **** (** * *** on **** ***** ******** ***** **** topic *** **** **** ****), ** they ********* ********* **** **** ** last **** ?

***, *** **** ***. ******* **** the ****** * ******* ****** ********** to ***:

******* ***** ******** ** * "*** data" ***** **** ******** **** *** Dahua's "***** ****" ********, *** **** given ** *** ***'*****-************* ***** ************ ********.

*** ***** ******** * ****** ** categories ** ****** ***** ****** ***** "Police ****", ********* "******* **** ****** terrorist ************" (隐性涉恐维族人员), ***** **** "****":

*** *** ****** ** **** ***** reports?

*** ***** ********* "******" **** ******** **? *** **** who **** ****** ***** **** ********?中華民國.

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* *** **** ******** ... **** some ** **** ******* *** *** often *********.

*** ***** ********* "******" **** ******** **?

** ** ***, ***? **** ** discussion ... ** * ** *****?

** ***** ** ** **** *** that **** ******** ** ************** ******** made ** ***. ***. *** **** is ******

****** =prejudice, **************, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against * ****** ** ****** ** *** ***** ** ***** ********** ** * ********** ****** ** ****** *****

*** *** *** ****** **** ** can ***** *** :) * ** expressing ** **** ********** ** *******. You **** ********* ******* **** **. I ** *** **** ** ***** people *** ******* ****** *** "**** ever ******"

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* ** *** **** ** ***** people *** ******* ****** *** "**** ever ******"

*'** **** *** ******. *** ** have * ***** ** *****.

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***** ***

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***'** ********* ************ ********.

****** =prejudice, **************, ** ********** ** ** **********, community, ** ***********against * ****** ** ****** ** *** ***** ** ***** ********** ** * ********** ****** ** ****** *****

(*) *** *** ** **********, *** an ****** *****. ****'* *** ** say *** **** *** **** ***** to **** ***** ** *** ******* about *** ***.

(*) ****** **** *** **** ********. So ****** ** ******?

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** ********* *************.

*** ******* ****** *** ***** **** long ******* **** *** **** ***** throughout *** ***** *** ********* ** years. **** *** ******** ** **** countries, *** **** *********** *** ******** many *********** *** ********* ***** ** leadership **** ***** **** ** **** planet. *** **** ****** ********* ********** of ***** ** **** *.** *******.

*** *** **** **** ********** ** China ** ****. **** ***** **** a ********** *** ********** ******** ** the ***** **** ** ******* *******. Their ********** ******** ** * ****** party ** * ****** ***** ** million ******, ********* ** **** ****** 2021 *******, *** ** ******** ** as *** ***. **** ***** ***** consists ** **** **** *% ** the ***** ******* ********** ********* ****** control **** *** *******, **********, ********, and ********* ** ***** *******. **** implemented * **** ********** ********* ****** within * ********* ****** *********. *** country ******** ** *** **** ****** Chinese ********, *** **** ***** ******* cultures *** *************.

** ******** *** *** ********* ******* China, ** ** ******** **** ***** policies ** ******* ********* *** ******, minds, *** ********** ** *** **** 1.4 ******* ******* ******** ****** ** their *******, ** *** **** ****** living ********** *** *****. **** **** a **** *******, ****** **** *** social ******, *** *** * ********* people. ********* ** **********, ***** *** had ****** ****** ***** *** **** 2 ******* *****. ** ** * very *** *******, *** *** ******** many ********* ***** ** ********** ********** its’ *******.

*** *********** * **** **** ********* in **** ***** *** ******, *** clearly **** ******* ** ******** ******** and ******* *** ** *** ******* people, *** ** **** **** ******* by *** ***. ******** **** ****** to ***** ***********, ***********, *** ******* activities ******* ******* ****** ** ******** and/or ********* ****** ***** *** *******. The *********** **** ** ** ***** on ***** ****, ********, *******, ********* beliefs, ** ***** ********** ************** ***************. Although * ******* ** ******* *** available, * ***** **** ** **** information *** **** ********** ***** ** first **** **********, ***** **** ******** reports **** **** ***** *** ***** based *************.

**** ******** ************, **********, *** ** technology **** ** **** ** ****** and ********* ***** **** *************** ***** used ** *****, ********, ********, ******, interrogate, ********, *** **** ******* *********** based ** *** ******* ** **** surveillance.

** ** *** ******** *** ************* of ***** ******** **** ** ******* these ********** **** **** **** *** focus ** *** *********** ** ***** forums. ******** ******** ***** **** **** discovered *** ******** ** **** ***** features ***** ** * ****** ** sources. **** ******* ***** *** ******** manufactures *********** *************, ****** ********, ***** with *** ***** ******* ** *********. Some ************* **** ******** ******** ******** forces, ************, *** ************** ** ***** technologies ** *****, *** ***** ********* around *** *****.

** ****** *** ** ********** **** the *** *** * ************ ********* interest ** **** ** *** ********* providing **** **********.

** **** *********** **** **** ** the **** ********* ***** **** **** banned, *** ************ ******, ** *** pending ******* ******* ** *** ** and ***** *********, *** ** ****** issues ********* ** ******* ******* *** security *****. ** **** *****, *** same ************* ****** **** ***** ********** to ** ********* ** ********* ***** the ************* ** ******** ** ***** products. **** ******** *** **** *** discovery ******* ******* ** ***** ********* and ************ ******** **** ****** *** not **** ** *********. **** *** resulted ** ********* ****** ***********, *** the **** ******* ***** ** ******* end ***** ** ***** ******** ** a ******* ****** ****.

*** ******* ***** ***** ** **** and ***** ** ** *** ******* their ******* ** *** ********* *** American **********, ** *** **********. ** are ****** ********** ******** *** ********** in *** ** *** ********** *** world, ********** **** ** ***** *** freedom ** ****** *** ***** ** spend *** ***** ** **** * statement. ** *** **** ** ****** to *** ******** ******** **** *** company ***** ********, **********, ** ******** contribute ** *** *** ** ***** rights **********.

* ***** **** ** *** **** our ******* *** **** ****** ** not ******** ******** ** ******** **** any ******* ***** ********, ************, ******** or ******** **** **** ***** ** provide ******* ** ******** ***** ** our *******. **** ******** ************* ** any ******* **** ***, ********* *****, or *** ***** ******** ** **** of ***** ********.

* ** ********** ******* **** ** NOT ** *** * ******* ** a ***** *******. * **** ***** time ** *****, **** **** **** clients, *******, *** ******** ************* **** are *******. ****** **** ** **** them **** ** *****, * **** a ********** ******* *** *** ******, their **** *****, *** ****** ****** values. * ******* **** *** *** leadership ** *** ** **** **** the **** ** *** *****, *** hope **** **** *** *** *********** true ****** ** **-********** ***** ******** toward *******, *******, *** ********** ***** rights. ** **** **** ***** ***** and ********* ** ** ***** ***** people *** *** **** ** *** world ******** ** *****, ******* **** might ** ********.

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**** ***** ***** ******** ** **** than *% ** *** ***** ******* population…

…** ** ******** **** ***** ******** or ******* ********* *** ******, *****, and ********** ** *** **** *.* Billion ******* ******** ****** ** ***** country

** ** ***** *** *** **** not **** **** **********, ********* **** but **** * ***** ******** *** accepted **** *** *****…

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*** ****** ** **** ***** **** many ******* ***** ** ****, *** the ***** ***** ******, *******, *********, shrinking *********, ***** ******* ** ******* security, *****, *** *****. ******* *** resources **** ** ** ******* ** solving ***** ******, ********* *** ******* of ****, *** *********** *** ** can ***** *** ******.

* **** **** ********** ** **** planets' ********** **** ** ******* ******* disruption *** ************* *********** **********. **** prefer ** ******* ** *****, ******* and ************. **** *** ******* **** resources, ************, *** ***** ***** ** bully *** ********** ***** ****** **** surrender *** ********** **** ***** ****.

**% ** *** ****** ** **** world **** * ******* ******** *********** that ************ *** ***** ******** *** the ******* ** ***. **** ***** minority **** ***** ** **** ** the *****, **** *** ***** ** a ***** ** **** *** ******.

*******, ** ********** *** ** ******** if ***** ********' *** ******* ********** and ****** ** ****** ***** ****.

********** ******* *** ********* *** *** perfect, *** **** ******* * ********* that ****** **** ********** * ***** and *********** ** ****** ***** *** path.

********** ******* ** *** ***** ** colonization *** ******** *********, *** ******* encourage ************ *** **** ***********.

**** *** ****** ** ****** ********* dealing **** *** ********* ********** ******* aggression, **** ********* *** **** ** focus ***** ****** *** ********* ** improving *** ******* ** **** *** themselves *** ******.

************ ********** ********* **** ** ********** and ******* ** ***** ********* **** fortunate. *** ******* ***** ** ** improve ***** ******* ** ****, ******* assistance, *** **** ******* *** ***** to ****** **** **********. **** ** this **** ******* ************ ******* ** non ****** ************* **** ******* **** the *********** ** **** *******. *** people **** ** ***** *********** ** have * *** ** *** ***** community *** ********* ********.

*** *** *** ** *** ******** of ***** **** **** **** ** induvidual **** *** ** **** ** make ***** *** ******* ***** *** leadership, *********, *** ****** ** ***** country.

*** ****** ** ***** *** ***' people **** ** **** ** ****** their *** ***, *** ** **** choose ** ** **, ****** * true *********** ******* *** ****** ** the *****.

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you: ** ***** ** ** **** *** that IPVM behavior is discriminating products made in PRC. You. And this is racism

*** **** ********* *** ****** ** racism - *** ******** *** ******** presented **** ******** ******* **** *****.

****, *** ******** ******* ** **** if *** **** ***** ****

***: **** ** ** **** ***** to **** **********

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*** *** *************** *** *********** ****** the ****, *** *** ***** ********** respectful.

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**** ***** **** **** *** *** supporters ******* ******* ******** ** ****** for *******. ******* ** *** ********. If *** ** *** **** ** buy *** ******* ****'* **** *** you. ***'* **** ******** **** ** your *****. * *** ** ******** conference ********* *** * *** ********* with ***** *** ******** ********

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**** *** ***** ** ********* ****** "Chinese ********". **** **** ******* *** ethical ******** **** ******** ********* **** as ******* (* ** ***** *******), ADI (* ** *******) *** ********* (a ******* *******). ** ******* **** IPVM ** ********* **** "******* ** the *****" ** * ********** *****.

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