ONVIF Suspends Dahua and Hikvision

other Chinese manufacturers

Only PRC manufacturers on the US entity list are impacted, so Uniview, Tiandy, and Milesight are not.

For example, Megvii or Sensetime or Yitu (3 large facial recognition providers) would be suspended or not allowed to join ONVIF now, since those 3 are on the entity list.

Lol, China already does have its own standards with no foreign companies allowed, see: China PRC Government New National Video Surveillance Standards.

Pretty much, every time someone suggests or implies the US is being unfair to the PRC, the PRC has already done the same or worse to foreign video surveillance manufacturers.

They can try CNVIF but getting adoption is the key. OVIF is quite mature and overall well-liked.

OEM's will also be removed

I've asked ONVIF. That's a good point, I should have thought of this immediately. I will update when they respond.

Existing products are still conformant, new ones cannot, ONVIF confirmed.

Also, update, they added those products and the company names back to the website explaining just that:

There were some technical issues in changing the status of the members in the internal system. This caused the conformant products of the affected members to be temporarily hidden from view on the website. The existing conformant products and company names of the affected members are now visible again on the website.

I don't think so, they did not add anything about Huawei on their site and they suspended them 3 weeks ago.

They did send an email out but just to ONVIF members 3 weeks ago about Huawei, partial screencap:

Given that precedent, I would expect at some point they send a similar email about Dahua and Hikvision.

China is in for the long term. Hikvision, a well made knock off, founded on stolen western technology should like all Chinese products should be banned immediately, instantly. If America does not slam the brakes and force CCP to comply with western business theory America will be overran silently in the same method the USSR got leeched and bent over by China.

America and the west is simply the next host the Chinese need to embed CCP theory into, manipulate and one day gain total control. Yes we can beat them in an arm wrestling contest with our military, but not so easily when our own team is financially growing by locking their money, technology, infrastructure into China. Self gain, self return and a one way street as that currency once placed is into China is non-convertible currency to the rest of the world, it is now China's money/technology/data/knowledge.

Short term you and only you may do well, building wealth while blindfolded that chinese intent is not free market road trip to democracy, but for the rest of us this could be erosion of the Constitution of the United States. Soon facebook, google, microsoft, boeing, general dynamics and many other US born entities along with our constitution will be owned, controlled and history rewritten into CPP rule by law instead of rule of law.

Fight or Submit?

Short Immediate Term. Ban it all, this is war. Bring our Constitution to post in every American place of business, worship, celebration, holiday irregardless of ethnicity, technology boundaries, ideologies or religion.

I can look at my future in two ways. 1. Freedom and Democracy, life as we have known it. 2. Under the totalitarian rule of the CCP, with dreams of what freedom was like.

At the end of the day life grows short, but what about the ones you love?

That being said. IPVM should consider eliminating all reviews of Chinese security technology. A ban has to be unanimous.

Short term thoughts?

Sony has its own factory in China. not OEM.

There's been those rumors but there is no change and the notice is still on ONVIF's website:

As ONVIF says, it will remain in effect until the US drops EAR (i.e., sanctions) against these companies.

The screencap below shows the original URL being redirected to a 'trashed' link that 404s:

how’d you catch it? permalink notification service?

Yes, None of the suspended companies had their listings removed outside of a brief moment at the beginning. So that aspect is not new, i.e. even when the statement confirming their suspension was up, the companies were shown as still being members, which is, of course, very confusing.

#17, they are suspended, ONVIF reconfirmed. Until the current test tool is deprecated, which will be in the next few months, Dahua, Hikvision, etc., ONVIF will allow their products to be confirmed / conformant. However, ONVIF says US sanctions bar them from giving access to new test tool versions which will block them from further conformance.

We are preparing a new post on this.

Good question.

They can still then develop IPCs and NVRs, which are confirm with Onvif specifications [emphasis added]

Well, they cannot 'confirm' or 'conform' with ONVIF since using and passing the test of the ONVIF test tool is required for conformance.

They can certainly, like lots of small players, claim conformance but it will be illegitimate because per ONVIF's rules, only those products that are conformed using the ONVIF Test Tool may be marketed as ONVIF conformant.

Moreover, these companies are blocked from getting technical communication or assistance from ONVIF or ONVIF members in how to implement ONVIF specifications, which will undermine their ability to do so. This was explained in the email to ONVIF members:

they are getting new test validations all the time so it seems that this proclamation is not valid any more.

No, it is still valid, we just checked with ONVIF.

You are right that they are getting new postings on ONVIF, but all of them are backlogs from what was filed before April 1, 2020. See: Hikvision And Dahua Now Blocked From Conforming ONVIF Products

As for #8's comment / discussion: ONVIF says "this new rule does not apply to Hikvision or Dahua" so there is no change to Hikvision or Dahua's ONVIF status. If or when ONVIF provides feedback on Huawei, we will update accordingly.