Morten Tor Nielsen Defends Hikvision

Author: IPVM Team, Published on Jun 12, 2017

Morten Tor Nielsen, veteran software developer for Prescienta working for OnSSI, has posted "In Defence of Hikvision". As Nielsen explains himself:

[Update: Nielsen later edited that sentence in his post.]

This follows Hikvision giving IPVM an 'F' and social media posts from Hikvision and Nielsen criticizing IPVM.

In this note, we examine Nielsen's defense, why we agree with his specific claims about Hikvision and where he misunderstood our reporting.

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Comments (24)

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | 06/12/17 07:26pm

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IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/12/17 05:36pm

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to John Honovich | 06/12/17 07:41pm

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IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/12/17 05:48pm

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to John Honovich | 06/12/17 07:48pm

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 06/12/17 07:20pm

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06/13/17 01:56pm

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IPVM | 06/14/17 01:14pm

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Randall Raszick

In reply to John Honovich | 06/14/17 07:32pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #4

06/14/17 01:43pm

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 06/14/17 02:05pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/14/17 02:09pm

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Undisclosed End User #5

In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/14/17 04:39pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | 10/02/17 06:31pm

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IPVM | 10/06/17 11:31pm

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