Milestone Sues Hawk

Author: John Honovich, Published on Jul 18, 2014

Last year, an inventor / troll said they were going to sue end users for violating a patent they have on video surveillance technology.

Now, they have fulfilled their promise with 28 lawsuits this year. However, Milestone Systems has struck back, suing Hawk.

In this note, we examine what is happening.

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Comments (27)

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | 07/18/14 12:26pm

"**** ** ********* ****, **** **** ********* ***** **** ***** to ***** ******** *** ***** ****** ******* **** ************ ** replicate *********'* *******." ***, *** ** ***** **** ** ****** *** ***** manufacturers ** ****** ********** ** ********* ****, ***** ****'* **** a **** ** ****. *** **** ** ***** **** *** other *** ** **** ****.

* ***** **** ****'* ******* ********* ***** ******** **** **** big *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Luis Carmona | 07/18/14 12:29pm

***** **** **** ***** ** ** ***** * **** ***** of ********* / ******** / *******, * ** *** **** if ****'* * ***** ****** ** ***** ******* ********* *******.

***, **** **** * **** **** **** ***** ***** ************* is **** **** *** **** ****** ** **** ** ******** over ***** ****** **** ****, ****** ******* *** **** ** litigation ** **** **** *** (******) ****** ******* **** ***** make ** **** **** ** ****.

Wayne Jared

In reply to John Honovich | 07/22/14 02:56pm

** ********** **** ***** *** ********* ** **** **** ****** fight, ******* ********* (*** ****** ****). * ***** ******* *** get ***** ** ****** *** **** *** ***** ** ******, it's **** ********* *** ******. ********* **** **** **** *********** of ******* ********* ** *********, ********* *** ********* ****** ******, so **** *** *** ***** **** ** **** ** ***** business.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Wayne Jared | 07/22/14 09:23pm

**** ** *** ** **********. *********** ******** ******, *** ********** the *** ************ - **'* * ***'* *** ** *********** - *****, ****, *****, ****, ***. ****, **** ****** ** agreement **** ****** ***** ****.

********* **** **** ** **** *********** ** ******* *** ** also ***** * *** ** ***** ** *** **** ** unless *** ****** ********** **** ************ **** ** ***** **** business, ** ***** ** ** ************ ****** ** ****** **** fight.

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Ari Erenthal

07/18/14 12:59pm

**** *** *********** * *** ************ ***** ****?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Ari Erenthal | 07/18/14 01:08pm

** ***** **** ********:

"*** ******* **** **** ** ** ******* ******* *** ****** were ***** ** ** ******** ****, *** **** ************ ***** claims ** * ******** *** *** ****** ** ********* **** idea ** * ********** *********."

** *** **** ****** **** **** **** * ***** ***, so * ***'* ***** ** *** *** **** ** ****** on **** **** / ******.

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to John Honovich | 07/18/14 01:25pm

* ******* ***** ***** * ****** ******* * *** **** ***, ***********. ****'* ****** ***** ***** ** ******** ** *** ***-******* patent, ** ***** ** **. *** ** ****** *'* *** a *****.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

07/18/14 01:45pm
**** **** **** *** ********/********** ******** ** *** ****** ** just ********** *****? ****** ** ********* ** *** *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 07/18/14 01:48pm

* ** *** ***** ** *** ************ ******** ******* / made ** ****.

Jeremiah Boughton

07/18/14 03:59pm

A ***** **** ***** ** ****** *** ** ********* *****.

**** ***** **** *** **** *******, ** *****-***, **** ********, and ******** *** ***** ****** ***** ***** ****** ** **** if **** ** ********. ** ** **** ** ******* *** users ** *** ** *** *****.

** *** **** *** ********, **** *** *** *** **** information **** ********** **** ******* ** ***** ******* *** ***..

**** *** **** ***** ** ** ***** ** ***** ***** even ****** **** **** *** ***** ******?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jeremiah Boughton | 07/18/14 04:25pm

********, ****** *** ******* **. ** **** ****** **** **** of *** *** ***** **** ***** **** **** ******* :(

** ******* ** *** **** *****, *** ********* ***** ***** become ** ** *** * ******** ****** ** **** *******.

Rukmini Wilson

In reply to Jeremiah Boughton | 07/18/14 05:27pm

**** ***** **** *** **** *******, ** *****-***, **** ********...

*** **** *** ***** ** *** ******* **********!

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Mark Jones

07/18/14 04:35pm

***** **** *** ******** **** *** ******** *********, **** ****** tread **** ******* ** **** *****. ******** *** *** **** and ****** ******* ***** *** ******* ** ***** *****. **** too **** ** *********. ** ***** **** ** ** **** Hawk ** ****** ****** ********** ** * ********* *********** ****, and ** *** **** ****, ****** ********** * ***** *** in *** ********. "** **** *** *** ***** **** ** fight *** **** *** ** *****" -***-***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Mark Jones | 07/18/14 04:38pm

****, **********, ** **** ** **** **********, *** ****** ***** need ** ** ***********.

***, * ***'* ***** ****** ********** * ***** *** ** the ******** **, ** *** ***, * ******* *** **** :)

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to Mark Jones | 07/18/14 04:38pm

****, **** ****'* ****** ** "*** ********". **** ***** **** to *** ********* *** ********* ***** *****-******* ******. * ***** they're ******* ***** ******* *** ****** * **** ****** **** this ******* **** ******* ***'* ***** *** ***** ****.

*** * **** **** **** ***** * ********* *********** *******.

Rukmini Wilson

In reply to Ari Erenthal | 07/18/14 05:59pm

... ***** *****-******* ******.

*** ** ********** **** **** ** **** **** ****** ***% troll **** ***** **** ** ******* ** ***validity ** *** ******?

****************** **, **************'* *** *** ******* ****, ***** **** ********** ******* *** patent *** *** *** ******* **. ** *** *** * after-the-fact ****** ***** ** ******* ** *** *** ***** ***** on ******* ***** *******. ** ********, ** *** *** * trivial ** ******* *********, ** *** **** ** *****.

**** **********:

**** *** ****** ** **** **** ** ***** *********. **** is ***** ***** **** *** ******* ***** ************. *** ********, the ***** ******* ****** *** *** **** ***** *** **** year (****). ********* ***** **** ** ********** ******* ***** ** prior *** *** ******* **** **** *** ***** ***** **** be ***** *********.

****! ********** * ***** **** ****, ***** *** **** ******* ** them *** ***** ********* ********** ******?

** *** ******* * ********* ******* ****** ***** *******, * actually ** ***** ** *****, *** **** ** * *******-**** to *****.

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to Rukmini Wilson | 07/18/14 06:01pm

* ********* *** ***** *******. * *** ******* **** * don't ******* * ******* ****** ** **********, **** * ******* or *********. ****** *** ** **** ** ****** *** **** of ************ ***** ***** *** *********, *** **** *** ******* who ******* *** *** ** ******** ** **? * ***'* believe *** ****** ** **** **.

Rukmini Wilson

In reply to Ari Erenthal | 07/19/14 05:10am

* ** ** ********* **** ***, ****** *'* *** **** sometimes *** ** **** *** **** **** *** *** **** it ***** ** ******** *******.

**** **** *** ********** *** *** ** *** ******** ***'* or **, * ****** *** ******** ** *** ****, ** a ******* **** ******** **** *** *** ** ******* ****. We *** **** ******** ******* * ** *** ****, *** were ***** ******** **** **, ****** **** *** *** ** the ****** **** **** *** ****** ****** ******.

* *** ******** **** *** *** **** *** **** **** Amazon *** ****** ******** *-***** ********. ** *** ******* ***** *** ** **** *** ********** then ****; **'** **** ****** *** ****** *** ** **** with **.

**** ** *** ** ****** *** **** ** *** ***-***** ordering, ****** **** ** **** ******** ** ********** ** *** another *****.... ** **** ******* ** *** *** *****.

******** *** **** **** *** ***** *** ***** *** **** than **** ****** * *******, ** ***** **** *** *** website... *** **** *****'* **** ** *****...

Andrew Lund

07/18/14 11:14pm
******* ********** ** *** ******** ** ****'* ****** ************ ******, this **** ***** ** **** ********* * **** ***** ************ for **** *****. *** ** *** *** **** ** *** practice ** ******* ****, **** ********* ** "******** *******" ***** year, *** * **** **** ***. *** ** ****** ** believe **** ***** *** ********* *** ********* ** *** *********** breakthroughs ***** **** **** *** ** ******, ** **********, **** they ******* * *** ****** ***** ******? *********, ** ** (less ****) ****** **********. ****** **** ** ** **** * patent ** ****** ** ***** ****** **** ******** * *** lines ** **** *** ** ******* ** **** * *** grand ** * ****** ******** ** **** *** ***********. ******* that ** ****** *** **** *** ****** ** ** ***** end-users (***** **** *** ******* ******* ** **** ** ******* the ******* *** ****** ***** ********* **** ** *** *** seat ** ***** ** *** ** **** * **********.) ** a *** **** **** ******* ** ** *** ****** *** patented *** ***** ********** ***** ***** *******, *** **** ***** shopping ** ** *** *************. ** * ********** **, **** all ****** *** ****, *** ****** * ****** ***** ***** new *** ** *** **** *** ******** ******** **** * cool (*** ********** ******) *** ********** ***** ***** ********. ** then ***** *** **** ****** ** ******* (***, * *****, most ** *** **** *******) ****** ***** ***** ***** ********** to *** ** ****** **** ** **** ** **** ** was *** ******* ** *** ******. ***** ***** ***? ******* - * ***'* **** *** ** *** ****** ***** ******* of *** ** *** ****, *** * ** *** * patent ******** ** * **** ****. *** * *** **** facing *** **** ****** ****** ** **** ****, ***** ******** also ******** *** **** *** ***** * **** **** ** end ***** - ***** ******** **** ** * ****** ** in ****** *** **** *********** ** **** ** *******, ********* litigation.

Rukmini Wilson

In reply to Andrew Lund | 07/19/14 11:15am

...***** ******** **** ** * ****** ** ** ****** *** some *********** ** **** ** *******, ********* **********

** ** ******************* ****, ********* **********. ** **: *** * *** ***** cases, ***** * ***-*****,****** ***** *** *** ****.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

07/19/14 04:52am

***** **** **** ****** ****!

Phil Shanahan

07/21/14 07:47am

***** **** **** **** **** **** * ********** ******* ** seems ****** ******* **** **** **** ** ******** ** ******** an ******** ****** *** **** **** ** ****** **** **********. I'd **** ** **** *** **** ***** ****** *** **** came ** ****** ***** *********, ******* ******** ** **** **** been **** *** ********, ******** ******* *** * ************ ** developer ** *** ****, *** ** ****** ****** ** ***** broken *** - ****

Rukmini Wilson

In reply to Phil Shanahan | 07/21/14 08:38am

**** **** **** ** ******** ** ******** ** ******** ****** and **** **** ** ****** **** **********...

****'* ****, *** *** ***** **** ** ***** **, ** this ***** ** *****? ** **** **** **** '*****' *****-*********, without *****, *** **** ** ** *** ****** ******** *** not **** ******** ********* ** *****...

*** **** '*****' ***** ** ** *** *** ********** **** to ********* * **** ***** **** ***** ***** ** **** infringing ** **** **** (******* ****** ********), *** ** ****** Hawk ***** **** *** ******. **** ************* **** ***** ** the **** *** **** *****-*********, *** ***** **** ******* * product **** ***** **** ** ***** **** ********* **** ******** else. *** **** ***'* ***** ** ** * ****** (**** if **** ****** **) ***** **** *** ***** ** *** everyone ** **** ***** *****-*********.

** *** *** '********', * ***'* ***** ** *** **** the ******** ********, **** **** **. *** ** *** **** pointed *** *** ************ ******** *** ******* **** ** ** today ** ***** ** ****. **** ** ****, ****** *** marriage ** **** *** **, *** * ****** ** ****** on **** **** ***** **** **** ******** **** **** ****** streaming **** ****...

Jack Sink

IPVMU Certified | 07/21/14 10:29pm

* ***** ** * *****. ** *** ********* ** ** such *** ***** *** *********** ********* ********* ****** ******** *** safeguards *** ******* ** ******** **** ******** ** ****** ****** display * ***'* *** *** ******** *** *** ****** ***** than ************ *********** ************. ***'* ***** *** ***** ******, ********. Canon *** **** ****** ** *********** *** *********** ** **'* new *** *** ******* *********** $ ** ** ** **** a ***** *********. ** * ********* ******** ********** **** ********, that ** ***** ** *** *** **** ***, **** ** a ***** *** **** ** ***** * *******.

Alastair McLeod

07/22/14 03:18pm

*'* **** **** ** ***** *** **** ** *** ******** patent *** ***** ** ****, **** ** **** ****** **** year ****** . . . . . .

Rukmini Wilson

In reply to Alastair McLeod | 07/26/14 10:39am

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Ed Vergara

07/22/14 06:56pm

* ***** ***'** **** * *** ** ***** *** ** the ****** ******* ******** **** *** *********** ** *** **** standard.

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