Milestone Alleges [Now Removed], Qognify Denies VMS "Running Out Of Support"

Published May 01, 2019 11:34 AM

Milestone is running a marketing campaign where they allege that OnSSI and Seetec VMSes are 'running out of support'. However, Qognify's CEO flatly denied this to IPVM.

Inside this note, we examine the allegation, Qognify's denial and the increasingly bitter fight in the maturing VMS market.

Update: after IPVM published this, Milestone retracted the claim.

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Comments (15)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
May 01, 2019

**** ******* ****** ** ********* ***'* enough *** *** ****** ****** ** starting ****** ***** **** ***********.

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U
Undisclosed #2
May 01, 2019

********* ** ****** **** **** **** of ***** *****, ***. **** ***** them **** **** * ****** **-**********, stalking ** ** *** ******** ******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
May 01, 2019

********* ** ****** **** **** **** of ***** *****, ***.

*****... *** *** **** *** ******** of *** *** ***** ****** *** there?  * ***** ****** **** ** this ***** **%-**% ** *** ***** is ******* ** **** **** ** VMS ** * ******** ** **** (e.g. *********, *****).  ** **** ***** the **** ***** **** ** ** is ** ***** **** ******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
May 01, 2019

* ***** **** ** * ********* move ** *********!  ** **** ********* somewhere, ***** ** ******** * ****** which ****** **** ********* **** ******* the ********* ****** ** ***** *** a "******* ****"; *.*. * *** years ********* *** *** ** ***** OEM *********.  ****** ******* **** ****** do ***** **** ** ******* *** product, ********** *** ******** **** **** whether **** **** ****** ** *** source **** ** ****** ** ** issue ******.  **** ********* & ***** know *** ****** ****, *** ** guess ** ********* ** ******* ** this *** ******** * ********** ** a **** ** ****** ********* **** an ***** ******** ** ********* **** will ** ********* ****-****.  

** *** **** *** ********** ** swapping *** * *** ********, ********* is *** ****** ** **** *********.

U
Undisclosed #2
May 01, 2019

*****. * ***** ********* ** ****** targeting *** ******-***** ***** ******* (*** obviously ****** ******). *** ****** *****/********* customers **** ****** ******* ********* ** something **** (*********, *****/******, ********), ** just ******* ** **** ***** ****** into *** ******.

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Mark Rindy
May 01, 2019

* ***** ** ** ***** ******* if ******** ***** ********* *** ********* solicitations/discounts **** * ** ******* **** to ***** ***** *** ********* ** will ** * ************ ** *****'* lack ** * ******.

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Morten Tor Nielsen
May 01, 2019
prescienta.com

**** **** **** ****** ***** ***** to ***?

***'** *** ***** ** *** : "Yeah, **'** ******** * ******** ******* of ******* *** *** ***** ********, so **** ** *** **** ******* existing ********* ***** ** **** ********* tolerable, ** ** *** ******* **** chaotic **** ** * ****** ************ with * *** ** ***** *** no ******".

**'* *** ***** "******" - ** we ****, *** **** ** **** is ***** **** **** **********. **** Qognify "*******" ** ******* * ********* VMS's, *** *** **** *** *** really ** **? ********* *** * platforms *** *** ******* **** (********** and *********), *** ***** ****'** *** incompetent *****, **** ********* ****** ******* supporting **** *** ********. **** **** 100+ ****, ***** ****** ** **** (just ****** *** ******), **** **** Canon ******* ****, *** ****** * shitload ** $$$. **** **** *** Arcules **** * ******** *******, *** only ***** **** ***** *****.

***** **** **** ****'** ******* ******* synergistic ******* ** *********** **** *** party ******* ************ - ****'* ****. But ** ****** * **** ********** please. *** ******* **** ** *** work ** ********* ***** ***** **** Milestone **********. **** **** **** *** party ******* ***** ** *** **** : *** ** ***** * **** amount ** **** *** ****** ** support *** * ********* ********* ** Qognify, **** **** * *** ******** their ********* **** **. ***** *** same ** *********, ********, ******* ***?

**, ****** ***** *** ******** "******", and ** *** ****.

**** ****, *'* **** **** ********** lawyers **** **** ***** ********* **** times ** *** ** ***** ** the **** ** ********. **** ***** that ***** *** *******/****** **** *** different **********, **** **** *** ***** argue **** ********* ** **** ****** a ******* *********, *** *** ****** a ******** *** ********* ***** ***** Qognifys ******* ** ******.

* ***'* ******* ********* ** *** only ******* ****** **** **********, *** perhaps ****'** *** **** **** **** the ***** ** *** ** ********.

*** ***** ** *** **** *** account ******* ** ******* ******** ** being ***** *** **'* ******* ** this **** **. *******?

 

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JH
John Honovich
May 01, 2019
IPVM

**** ***** **** ***** *** *******/****** into *** ********* **********, **** **** you ***** ***** **** ********* ** just ****** * ******* *********, *** not ****** * ******** *** ********* claim ***** ******** ******* ** ******.

** **** ** ****?

*** **** ******* **** **** *********

***'* **** ***** ***** **** *** head ** **-*****

**** *** *** *** ******* * could ***** ** *** **'* * bit ******** *******'* ********** ** '**'. ** ***** ** ****** *** a *** ** *** *** ** a ************ ***, ** ***** *******, it ** *********, ** ****, ** "***** **** ***** *** *******/****** **** two ********* **********" *** *** ***** readers **** **** *** ******** ************.

*** *** ******, **** ********* ** the **** ** *********, *** **-*****.

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Morten Tor Nielsen
May 01, 2019
prescienta.com

**, *****'* ** ******** **** ********* is ******, *** * ***'* ******* what **** ****'* **** ******* ***** before ********** (* ***** ** *****).

*** *****, ********* ** ******, ** normal ***** **** **, *******************. ******* ***** **** * ******, part ****, ****** "**********" ****** *** they ***** ********** ***** **** **** hadn't ****** *******.

*'* *** * ******, *********, *** I've ***** * *** ** **** around ***** ****** ******** *** * can ****** ***, **** **** *** the **** ********** ******** **** * straight ****. *** ******** *'* ******, in ***** *****, ** ******** ***** good.

 

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JH
John Honovich
May 01, 2019
IPVM

** ***** ** ****, ** ***** terms, * ***'* ****.

**** * ********* ***********, * ***** it's ****. *** **** **** ********* has *** ******* * ******** ** defense ** **** ** ** ** a *** *********. * *** ****** *** ***** **** ***** *** and *** **** ******* *** **** ****** ******* ***** a ********* *****?

** * *** ****, * ***** have **** *** *** ********* ********** ("We *** *** ******* *** *********** we **** ****** *** *** **** we **-******** **, ** **** ******* to ****** *** ******** *** *******.") You *** ********** ***** *** **** without ****** **** * ****** ********* about * **********'* ***** **** ** not (** *****) ******** *********.

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U
Undisclosed #2
May 01, 2019

*** ***** ** *** **** *** account ******* ** ******* ******** ** being ***** *** **'* ******* ** this **** **. *******?

***** *******, ***.

 

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U
Undisclosed #5
May 02, 2019

* ***** **** *** *** ** the **** '**' **** ** *** only ***** * **** *** ***** with - *** **** ***** ** to ******* **** ***** ***** *** this ****** ** *** *******.

***** '**' ***** * ****** ********* about * (**** ****** **** ******** the **********) **** *** - *** has **** - ******** *******.

***, **** ** ******* *** **** of ***** **** ***** ********* ***** never *** *** ** ** **** are *********.

**, *******, **** **** '***** (** might **)' ** *** ***** * think **'* *****.... 

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
May 02, 2019

“*******” ***** ** * ****** ******** and **********.

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Ethan Ace
May 02, 2019
IPVM

******: 

Milestone *******

********* *** ****** * *** ******* of *** ***** **** *** '******* out ** *******' ***** *******, ******** by * ******* ********* ** '***** class' *******:

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U
Undisclosed #7
May 06, 2019

******* ****** *******?

***** **** ** ******* **** ****** many ***** ********* ** **** ********* for ***/**** *********.

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