Milesight - A Chinese "End To End" Solution Examined

By Brian Karas, Published Sep 01, 2016, 10:29am EDT

Where most Chinese manufacturers have focused on their camera hardware, one is attempting to be the Avigilon of China.

We spoke with the President of Milesight's US division, Michael Slack [link no longer available], about how he wants to provide the market with a new end-to-end platform that combines features similar to Avigilon with the pricing of Hikvision.

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Ross Vander Klok

IPVMU Certified | 09/01/16 02:52pm

"We are skeptical of this."

Ya think!?!?

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Armando Perez

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ross Vander Klok | 09/01/16 04:21pm

funny, a milesight rep visited me a few weeks ago and that was my first thought without even looking at the logo.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

09/05/16 11:35pm

Website domain registration early 2012, what looks like maybe then active in December 2012 due to a update, normally this is when you activate a new server to website or such.

Website on first hand looks too good for Chinese, but they just used an off-shelf template. What a shame you try use on mobile device, and it's non responsive. To ready the text you need Hubble telescope.

http://www.milesight.cn/terms.asp Check their disclaimer it's interesting reading.

They like to claim all copyright on website contents including the open source parts. Pure class.

Name is rip off milestone as is logo design, all be it a good copy, never less it's a copy. The famous Chinese originality design teams at work!

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IPVMU Certified | 09/06/16 03:40am

They like to claim all copyright on website contents including the open source parts. Pure class.

Here's both Milesight's and Milestone's Terms of Service section on copyright (shown in a completely random order).

Which one has more class, I can't say.

All contents on this Website are copyrighted by Miles**** unless otherwise stated. Without prior written consent of Miles**** or other parties, any content on the Website shall not be reproduced, distributed, photocopied, played, linked or transmitted with super-links, loaded into other servers in "mirroring method", stored in information retrieval system, or otherwise used for any commercial purpose by any person by any means, unless otherwise downloaded or reproduced for private and non-commercial purposes (provided however, that such use shall not include any revision to the content and the copyright notices and other proprietary notices shall be retained in the same form and manner as on the original).

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Copyright Protection. You should assume that everything you see or read on the visited site are protected by copyright unless otherwise indicated. The content on this website may be used under these conditions. Miles**** is not responsible for the content or availability of websites that the visited website link or refer. This also applies to ads. The images and text belong to either Miles**** or used with permission. You may not use these images, unless otherwise expressly stated. Any unauthorized use of images and text may violate copyright laws.

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Undisclosed Distributor #3

05/01/17 09:48pm

I have tested  both HIK, Dahua, ACTi and Milesight cameras. The Milesight cameras turned out to be a much better product. I have been focusing on the 4GB cameras, and so far there have been no complaints from my customers here in Scandinavia.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #3 | 05/01/17 11:58pm

#3, thanks. Do you recall what model Milesight cameras you tested? I ask because we would consider testing them ourselves. Thanks.

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In reply to John Honovich | 06/30/17 09:07am

I tested their pro models, h265.

Recently they launched a 2MP PTZ bullet which will be followed up with a 4MP. I received two samples a couple of weeks ago, and have both out for testing. The price is very competitive.

Together with the PTZ bullet cams I also received a couple of their new 9 ch mini NVR with embedded PoE. A bit larger than their previous model, but no noise and supporting 3.5 inch HDD enabling longer storage time.

Now they are working on a new vandal dome which will result in shorter time needed for adjustments.

All the installers buying the Milesight cameras comment on how the design make them easy to install compared to other brands.

So far I have had no complaints regarding their support.

 

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koby mishal

In reply to John Honovich | 08/06/17 08:13am

Hi John ,

Is IPVM  going to test Milesight camearas or only considering for now ?

I find it very interesting after reading the article you published .

 

Thanks

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to koby mishal | 08/06/17 11:56am

Koby,

Not right now because we have seen some interest in Milesight but not enough to warrant the time to do a test.

What do you find very interesting about Milesight?

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koby mishal

In reply to John Honovich | 08/06/17 12:24pm

"combines features similar to Avigilon with the pricing of Hikvision" 

also as I see on their website they announced  having  0.002Lux starlight visibility with 140dB WDR and H.265 compression cameras ,and also ONVIF supported , it looks like a good alternative to low and high cost that not necesearily has compatibility to ONVIF or 265 ...

i think it has to be tested by IPVM to get auidence interesting and not the opposite precisely because IPVM is a well known website in this area  .

 

 

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to koby mishal | 08/06/17 12:58pm

That quote is quoted out of context. The full quote is:

President of Milesight's US division, Michael Slack, about how he wants to provide the market with a new end-to-end platform that combines features similar to Avigilon with the pricing of Hikvision. [emphasis added]

 

If anyone can provide us details on how Milesight is really like Avigilon beyond the basics of selling recorders and cameras combined, I'd be curious to hear.

they announced having 0.002Lux starlight visibility with 140dB WDR and H.265 compression cameras ,and also ONVIF supported

Are you referring to this box camera?

Box cameras have relatively low popularity and they only claim H.265, not smart H.265, which almost guarantees bandwidth consumption will be higher / inferior to smart H.264 cameras. Also, lux and WDR dB claims cannot be trusted as they are self-assigned and regularly abused.

I did find one camera that looks atypical and interesting - the bullet PTZ they are advertising:

We tested a Uniview bullet PTZ recently though Milesight is claiming more features here.

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koby mishal

In reply to John Honovich | 08/07/17 08:43am

you are right about the ones you advertised these are the ones I saw also reffering my interesting . 

Thanks for the review about the pupolarity of this kind of cameras  ( 265 and wdr ) it is also helpful .

 

 

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Anton Miller

Shaked Projects
In reply to John Honovich | 06/23/18 02:34pm

This PTZ bullet is easily our favorite product.

The "full spectrum light" is basically a very bright white LED, bright enough for a full colored picture at a distance of over 20 meters. Combined with smart tracking features it provides a very nice deterring factor - nobody likes being illuminated and followed.

 

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Anton Miller

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06/23/18 02:30pm

We've done quite a few jobs with Milesight cams and NVRs, are very satisfied overall and going to install them at a medical cannabis greenhouse next month.

Everything is ways better than Hikvision, Dahua or Uniview. Picture quality, disk consumption, WDR, motion detection, etc. Cams are very well designed, with much attention to the physical installation process - clamshells, brackets, etc.

Here are couple images of a test that I've conducted. There are more on my other laptop.



Mobotix is a 7 y.o. fisheye ceiling c25, Pelco is an older 2 mp dome, Milesight is a 4mp minidome and Indigo is a 12 mp bullet cam with automatic zoom and focus.

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