Mega-OEMs vs Micro-Relabelers

Author: John Honovich, Published on Aug 04, 2015

Manufacturers like Dahua are sold under dozens, if not hundreds, of aliases in the United States alone. Companies doing it range from two stoners in their basement to Fortune 100 corporations (e.g., Honeywell).

But are there any differences between them? And are there any risks? This debate arose recently when we exposed a 'manufacturer' who is really an integrator relabeling Chinese cameras.

We believe that there are significant differences and more end user risks in going with micro-relabelers. Inside this post, we explain why and how.

************* **** ***** *** **** ***** ******, ** *** ********, of ******* ** *** ****** ****** *****. ********* ***** ** range **** *** ******* ** ***** ******** ** ******* *** corporations (*.*., *********).

*** *** ***** *** *********** ******* ****? *** *** ***** any *****? **** ****** ***** ******** **** ********* * '************' *** ** ****** ** ********** ********** ******* cameras.

** ******* **** ***** *** *********** *********** *** **** *** user ***** ** ***** **** *****-**********. ****** **** ****, ** explain *** *** ***.

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Integrators ** *** *****

*** **** ** *** *** *****, *** ***********. ** *** integrator ***** ****** ** **:

"**'* * ***/*** ** **."

*** '****' ** *** *** *****.

Why *********** **** *****-***********

******* *** *** *** *********. '********' ****** *** **** ********. It ** **** ** **** ***** *** ***** ***.

*** ********? *** **** *** ***** ** ******* ****'* ******* and ***** ** ** **** ***. *** *** **** ********* 'unique' ** **** **** *** *** *** **** ********* *****. "Dahua? ****'* ****. *************** ** *****? *******."

Spec ***** **** *****-**********

*********** ********** ******* **** ***** *** ***** ******* ***** **** numbers ** *****. **** ***** *********** ***** **** **** *********** their ******* ** ***** ** ******* ***********. ** **** *****, the **** *** **** ** ******* ** ** ************* *******, even ****** ******* ********** *** ******* *** ******** ************'* ****** or *** ***** **** ***** **** ******* ***.

Easier **** ****

*** ******** *** **** ** ****** **** **** *** *** integrator, ****** ** *** *** *** ****** ** *** ******* re-labelled. *** *** **** *** *** ******** *** ** ** to *****. ***, ******* **** ******** *** ***** ** ***** you **** ***** *** **** *** ******* ** **** ********.

Inherently *********

****** *** **-******** **** **** ** **** *** ******** ******. ***? Obviously, ** **** ****** **** **** *************** *** **** ******* Chinacam, *** ***** ***** ** ****, *** ******* ***** ***** and **** ***** ****** **** ** *** ******** **** *** source, **** ** **** **** ******** ********.

Mega-OEM **********

**** ** ***** ********* *** **** ******* *************. **** ** the **** ****** *** ********* (*.*.,***), *** (*.*.,*-***), **** / *****, **********, ** **** **** * *** big ******.

**** ********* ***** * ****** ** ********** ******** ** ***** micro-relabeler ************:

  • **** / ******** *******: ********* **** **** ********* ************* ** provide **** ** ***** ***** ******** ****.
  • **** **** *******: *** *** ** ****** ********* **** **** are ***** ** ** ** ******** *** ***** ** **** if *** **** ******, **** ************, ***.
  • ******** **********: ******* **** *** ***** ** ** ****** *** the **** **** *** ******* **** **** ** ******* ***** overall ***** / ********, **** *** **** ****** ** ***** warranties.
  • ******* *********: **** *** / *** ******** ** ********* ** units, ***** ***** **** ********* *** ****** / ******* ******** QA ** ******** ******** *** ******* ******* ******.
  • *************: ***** ********* ********* **** ******** ****** **** *********** **********, manuals, *** ******** / ******** ********, ***.
  • **** ************: ** *** **** **** ************ ** *********, *** can *** **** ** ***** ******** *** **** *** ***** and ** ********* **** ***** *********** **** ******* ****.

Micro-Relabeler *************

** ****** ** ***** *** ******* ****, *****-********** *** **** less ****** ** ******* *** ********* *****. *** ***** **** one ** *** **** *** **** *** ******* ****, *** not * ********* **********. **** **** ******* ****** *** *****-********* who ** *************, **** *** ******** ** **** **** ** do **** ** *** ******* *************, *** *** ***** ***** purchasing ***** ********* ***** ********. ********, *** ********** **** *****-********** are ***** ** ******** ** *** **** ******** ***** ***** is **** ***** **** ****-****.

*** *** *****, ******* ******* *** ****-**** ** *** **** likely **** *** *****-**********, ** ***** ** **** **** ***** and *** ******* ************ *** * ********* **** ****** ****.

Real ************* ********* ****

*** **** ****, *** **** ****** *** **** *** ***** is ****** ******** **** *** '****' ************ (*.*., ****, *********, Dahua, ********, ***.). **** ****-****, ***** *** ********* ***** ************* with ****-**** *******. **** ****** ******, ******* **** *** *** real ************, **** ********* **** *** *** **** **** ** fix ******** **** **** * ***** ***** **** * ****-*** Honeywell *** **.

Integrators ***** **** *** **** *****

****** ** *** ** ******** ** ****** * **** ***** and *** ** ***** ****** **** ******* ****, ** ** deceptive *** ***** ** *** *******. *****, ***** *** ***** of *** ******** ** ****** ***** ******, ** ** **** to ******** *** *****.

****** **** ********** ** ** * ************, **** ****** ** build **** *** ***** ** * ******* ******, ** ****** can ****** ******* ****** * ******* *** *** *** **** services, *** * ******* ****** **** **** **** **** ****.

Comments (21)

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | 08/04/15 02:37pm

*'** ******* **** ***** ********** ***** ** ** ** ***** the **** **** *** ** *****.

* *** **** ** **** **** ******* **** *** ****** installers, *** **** * *** ****** ** ** *** *** show *** *** ****** ******* **** ** ******* ******* ** logo, **** *********** ****** ** ***** ******!

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Brian Rhodes | 08/04/15 02:50pm

**** ******, ******* ****'* **** *** ******** *****.

"****, ********* ** **** ****** ********** *****. ** **** ** the ******* **** ** *** ****** *** *** ******* ** partner **** ****."

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 08/04/15 04:36pm

"** *** *** **** ****** ****** ** ********* ********, **'** give *** $*** **** *** *** ********* *******!"

Undisclosed #1

In reply to John Honovich | 08/04/15 05:02pm

****, *'** ***** *** ********* ** ********* ***** ***** ******, we **** ***********...

Undisclosed #1

08/04/15 05:11pm

*** **** ****, *** **** ****** *** **** *** ***** is ****** ******** **** *** '****' ************...

**** ***** * ***** ***** **** ****** **** **** ** possibly *** **** **** ** *** ****** ** *****. ** you **** ******* ******* **, **** ******* ******** *** **** documentation, ** *******, ** ****** *** **** *****.

** ********, ******** ** *** ***** ***** ***** ****** ********, they *** ****** **** *** **** **** **** **** **** value-add ** ***** ***, ** **** ******* *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 08/04/15 06:24pm

****'* *** * **** '****', ***** *** ********** ***** *** real ************ ********** ** ******* / ***** *** *********. *******, ***** *** ********* ** **** *** **** ************* grow ***** *** ****** ******* ********.

***, **** ** ***** **** **** ***** *********'* '***** ** ******* ********', **** *********** *** ********* ****** *** ******** **** *** for ********* ** **** * *****.

Undisclosed #1

08/04/15 08:21pm

** **** ***** ** *** **** *** **** *******...;)

********** *********** ******* ****** ******* **** ** ******* ** *******....

Undisclosed Integrator #2

08/04/15 08:54pm

* ***'* ********** *** ********* ****.

**'* ** ** ******* ** *** *** * ******** *******, but ** *** *** * ***** *********** ******** * ******** - ** *** **** ** ** **** - *** *** doing ********* ********* ** **********? **'* ****** ****** *** ***********, illogical.

**** ****** ***** **** ******** ** *** **** ********* ** someone ********** * ***** ******* - *** * ******* *******? I **** ******* ****** ********* *** **** **** ***** ***** provide ****** ******* **** ***** **** - *** ******* *** mentioned ** **** *****. ** **** ***, **** *** **** tried ********** ***** ********? ***** ******* ****, **** **** ******* by ********** **** *** ******* **** ***** ********. *** *********** of ******** ******* ** ********* **** ** **** ** ******* and **** ******** ** *********.

* **** **** ***** ******** *** **** *****; *** **** have ***** *** * ***** *****. ***? ******* ***** **** not ***** *** ** **** ******** ** *** ** **** their ****. *** **** **-***** **** **** *** ***** ** remove ***** ***** *** ********.

**** ****, ** * *** ** ******* **** ** ***** products, ******* **** **** ** *******'* *********** *** **** **** with ** ******* ********, ***** ** *** *******?

** * *** **. ***** *'* *** **** ** ** Realtime, * **** **** *** *****. **** *****. ************ ******. This ** *** ***** **** * **** ****** **** ************ by *** ******** ****** ** **** ** *** ******* ** this *****. * **** ****** ** ********** ************. :(

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 08/04/15 09:10pm

"* **** ******* ****** ********* *** **** **** ***** ***** provide ****** ******* **** ***** **** - *** ******* *** mentioned ** **** *****."

***** **** ** ******** *** ********* **** ******** **** **** are * **** ************. *****, ***** ****'* ********** *** ** tricking *** ********* **** ******** **** *** ******** ** * separate ********* ************.

** ** *********.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 08/06/15 05:07pm

** **** *** ******* *** *** **** ******** **** ** you're ***** ** *** *** **** **** ** ***** **** face???? **** *** ****** ******* **** ***? ** *** ******* you **** ***** ** ***** **** **********, ********* ***'** **** living ** * ***** ***** *** *****, ******** *** ******* personally ** **************. * ***** **** ** *********** * *** *** ******** ** ****** **** * *** or *** *** ***** **** *** ** ********* * *** educated *** ********* * **** ****** ** ******* ***** ** input **** ***** *******. ** ***'** ***** ******** ***** ******* over **** * *** **** ********, **** ********* *****'* **** attitude *** **** *** **** **** ** ******** ******** - I'm ****** ** **** *** ***** **** ******* *** **** in *** ******* ***'* **** ** ** *****? *** **!

Undisclosed Integrator #2

08/04/15 09:40pm

* ***** **** *** **. * **** ******* ***.**********.***. ** the ***** **** ** ***** "* ****** ****** ** ******* & ****** ** ******** ****** ************* *********." ********* ****, *** see *** ********* ***** ******: "** ***********, ** ***, ** Hear, ** *******." * ***** ***** **** ********** ** **% dahua ********. *** **** ***** *********?

********* *** ******** ********* ************* ******, * ***'* ***** ** how **** ***'* ********* *** **********. ***, ** ** ******** for ********* ** ** ********** ******** *** **** *** **** owners. ** ****, ********* **'* ****** ***** *** *********. **** and ****** ******** ********* ******* ** **** **** ******** ***** for **** ** ******** **********. ** ** ***.****.*** *** ********. It's ** *** *** ** *** *******. ** ** *** am * ********* **** *** ** ****** ** ****, *** at **** ***** *** ** ******* ** ****** ***** ******** men? ************, ** ** ***** ** ** ** ******* **'** small *** **** *********?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 08/04/15 10:28pm

"************, ** ** ***** ** ** ** ******* **'** ***** and **** *********?"

**'* ********* *** **** ******** ** * ******** ** *** from * '************' **** * ** * ********* **** *** with *** ** ***. ****** '*************' *** ***** * *** more.

* ** ** *** ** ** ******** (** ********* **** often,**** ******** ****) *** **** *** ******* $**+ ******* ** ******** * year, **** ******** ** *******, ******* ************, * ******** ******* with *********** *************, ***.

*** *** **** ** *** **** ** ***********? *** ************ the ****** ** ******** ****?

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 08/05/15 01:51am

"*** *** **** ** *** **** ** ***********?"

****'* ** **** ** **** *** ******** ** *** ****** we'd **** - ** **** ********* ******** ** ******** ******** for ******? ****'* ** ******* ** **** *** ******** **** to **** *** ********, ********** **** ***** ************ ********** ******, "Custom ************ *** * ***** *****?"

"*** ************ *** ****** ** ******** ****?"

******* ** * **************** ** ** *** *** ******* ********* misunderstand *** ******** ***** ** **** *******. ******** ** ******** are **** ** *****, *** ** *** **** **** ***** the *.*., **** **** *** **** ** * ******* *******. None ** ***** ********* ***, "*** ** **** **** **** stuff. ** ***'* ******** **** * *******. **** ***** ** really **** ** *** ******* ** ***** **** ***** ** companies **** **. ** ******* ** *** ********* *** **** that." ***'* **** ********* *** ******* ** *** "**** ** China" *******? ********* ********** *** ****** ***** ****.

**** ********* ******** **** ******** *** **************. *** ** *******, most ********* ***'* ****** ***** *** ************. **** ********* **, and ****'* * **** ****.

**** ********* ******* ******* **** **** **** ** *********** *** re-labeling ** *** ********* *** ********* **** ***** **** * couple ******* *********. *** ***** *** ******, *******, ** **** HiDef **** *** **** *** ********* ******* *** ******** **** does *** ******* ****. ** **** *** **** **** *********, the ******* ***** *** *** ******* *** ** ******** ** matter **** *** ****. *** ***** **** *** ** **** enough ********* ** ****** *** ******** ******. * ** * small *********. ** **** * *********, **** *** ****** ******** the *****. ** *** **** ** ***** *********** ******** ******* because *** ****** ** *** ********* ** ************ ** *** customer ****. *** **** *** **** ******. ** * *** from *****, * *** ******** ***** ******** **** *** ***** if * **** * *******. * *** **** ** **** to *** *** ***** ** **** ** ** **** *** troubleshooting. ****, ** ******, ** ********* - ** *********** ******** service ********** **** ***** *** **** ************ ********* ****** *******. Quality **** *******.

****** ****, * ******* ** ******** ********* *** ******'* ******* any ******* **** ******** ********* ** *** ******.

** **** ***, **** *** ** *** ***** ** ***** for *** *************** ****** ***** ** ******* ** "* ******* that ******** ******** ***********, **********, ******* *** ********** ***********. ... Entrepreneurial ****** ***** ********* **** *** ****** ****** **** ****** stagnant *** *****.” - ****** ********

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 08/05/15 02:07am

"****'* ** **** ** **** *** ******** ** *** ****** we'd **** - ** **** ********* ******** ** ******** ******** for ******?"

*** *** **** ** ******* **** *********. ** *** **** to ****** ** **.

"*** ** *******, **** ********* ***'* ****** ***** *** ************. They ********* **, *** ****'* * **** ****."

***'** ****** ******** ************* **** ***********. ** **** ******* ******** and ********, *** *** ** ******** ************ ** ****, **** is ***** * **** ************.

****** * ********** ******** ******* **** *** *** ******* ** do **** *** ****** ** *********** ** *** ****** **** label ** *** *************.

"**** **** ** *********** *** **-******** ** *** ********* *** companies **** ***** **** * ****** ******* *********."

* ** ****** **** ***** ********* *** ******* **** ******** services **** * *** ** * *********.

"** * *** **** *****, * *** ******** ***** ******** with *** ***** ** * **** * *******. * *** even ** **** ** *** *** ***** ** **** ** my **** *** ***************."

***** ** ***** ******* ** ** ** **** ***** ** Hikvision ******. **'* *** ********* ** **-***** ** ******* ***** support.

*** *** **** *** ** *** *********. **** ** *** owner ** ** ******** *** *** ******** ***** ****? **** if *** ***** ******* ** ** ********* **** ** **** out ** ********? **** ******* ** *** ********? **** ** the ******** ** *** ***** **** *** ***** *** ***** another **********?

Undisclosed Integrator #2

08/04/15 09:54pm

**** *****,

*'* *** ********* **** ***** ** **** * ***** **-*******. If *** **** ** ***** ******* *** ******* ** ** nellysecurity.com '* ******* *** **** *** **** ***** *** **** color ****** *** ******* ****. **** *** ** ******* * Nelly ****** ****** ********* ** *** ******* ***** ******* **** Nellys ******. ** * ***** **** ** * **-***** ** a **-*****.

*** *** *** ******, ****** ****** **** ** *** **** customer ******* ** *** ********.

Undisclosed #1

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 08/06/15 05:01pm

** * ***** **** ** * **-******** ** * **-********...

****** *** *** *****.

*** *** ***** **** ** ** *****-**, ******* *** ***-**** no ****** *** ** **** *** ***** ******* *** (**************), revealing *** **** ********* ******* *****.

** *** ***** ***** ***** ***** ** ***** *** ******** that *** ******** ** ******?

** ** ********* *******, * ***** ** **** **** *****'* response ***** **...

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 08/06/15 05:18pm

* ***** *** ***** **** ** *** ****** ** **** would ***** **** ********. ****, *** **** *** **** ***** a ******* ***** *******, ********** **** ** ***** ** ** frowned **** ** **** ***** ******* ****.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

08/06/15 02:48pm

* ******* ***** ** * *** ******** ** **** ******* and ** **** ** *** ******** ** ** ******* ** Mega-OEM's. * ****** ***** *** *** ** ****** *** ****** based ** ******* **** ******* *** ***** **** ****-***'* *** simply ********** *******. ** **** ***** **** *** ** *** from *** *****. **** *** **** '***' ******* **** *** this *** *** ****** ** ****'* ***** **. **** ******* a ******* ** ***** ** * ********** ******* **** *** neccissarely **** *** *** **** ******* **** ******** ** **. The ***** ** ****-***'* ** ***** ***** ****** ****** ***** comes **** *** *********** ** ***** *&* ********* ** ******* special ******** ** * ******* (*.*. ****** *********** ******* *** example) ** *** ******* ********. ** ***** ** *** **** like * *******, ** *** ******* *** ******** **** ** side *** *** ****** *********** *********** ** ***********/******. * *****-********* has ** **** ********* ** ***** *********. *** **** ***** we **** **** ********** ****** **** ***** ******** ******* ** where *** ******* ** ********/***** *** ***** ******** ****** ('**** enough *** ***** ******') ***** ** ** ***** ** ** more ********* ** **** * **** ************ **** *** ******** than ****** *** **** ***********/******. **** ** **** ****** **** you ***** *********** *** *** *** ***** ****** **. ** that *** ******* *** **** ** ***** **** ********? ** ahead.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 08/07/15 11:01am

"** ***** ** *** **** **** * *******, ** *** compare *** ******** **** ** **** *** *** ****** *********** differences ** ***********/******."

*** ***** ** ***** **** ** ** ******* ******** **** by ****. ** **** *** ******* '*********** *********** ** ***********/******' for ****-****. *********, ** ** *** **** ***** *****, **** changes ** ******** / ***** ** ***.

******, **** ****-***'* ************** ** ***** ****** *****. ******* ****** ** ********* **** *******.

**** ****, ** ** ******** **** **** *** ******, ** just **** *** ***** ****** *********** *********** ** **** **** a ******* *****.

** *** **** ******** ********, *** *** ********* ***** **** or ******* ** ******* ** *******.

Undisclosed Distributor #4

08/06/15 03:06pm

**** ****-*** **** **** *** *******, *** ***'* ******* **** technical *******. *** ******* *** *********** ** **** ******, *** sales ****** *** *** ******** **** **** **** ****

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #4 | 08/07/15 11:03am

*********** *, ******. *** ** ** *********** **** ** **** are * *********** *** ** *** ************ ******** * ****-***. However, ** *** ***** ***, ****** **** *********** ****-**** (********* sister ******* ********* ********), ** **** *** ****** **** *** testing / ************ **** **** *** ********* ***** / ******** tech ******* *** ***** * *** ** ******* / ****.

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