#1 Threat 2015 - China

Author: John Honovich, Published on Jan 07, 2015

Over 125 manufacturers shared with IPVM their outlook for 2015.

We asked them:

"Positive / Negative: Is your outlook for the 2015 video surveillance industry overall positive or negative? Why?"

First thing, we stripped away the silly self-promotional answers they always try to pass off in industry publications, e.g. "4K cameras are the next big thing, p.s., buy my 4K cameras please," or "Storage is going to be huge, oh, I sell hard drives."

We identified 4 real areas of threats / opportunities, with the most important being how concerned manufacturers are about the growing Chinese threat.

**** *** ************* ****** **** **** ***** ******* *** ****.

** ***** ****:

"******** / ********: ** **** ******* *** *** **** ***** surveillance ******** ******* ******** ** ********? ***?"

***** *****, ** ******** **** *** ***** ****-*********** ******* **** always *** ** **** *** ** ******** ************, *.*. "** cameras *** *** **** *** *****, *.*., *** ** ** cameras ******," ** "******* ** ***** ** ** ****, **, I **** **** ******."

** ********** * **** ***** ** ******* / *************, **** the **** ********* ***** *** ********* ************* *** ***** *** growing ******* ******.

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China / *** **** *******

*** *** ****, *** **** ****** ******* ***** *** *** falling ******* *** ***** ********* **** ******* ************* *** ********* on *** **** ** *** *****. ************* ********:

  • "******** - **** ********* **** ** *** ****** ** ***** and ******."
  • "** *** *** *** ** *** ***** ****** * **** to *** ******."
  • "* ******* ** **** **** **** ******* ** ***** ***** points. **, ** ** ***** ** *** ******* ******** **** be ** ** ***** ** ******* ***** *******."
  • "******* ***** *** ** ******* ********* *********** ** ********** ******."
  • "***-**** ******* ******** *** ****** ****** ***** ***** ** ***** close ** *** **** **** ** ******."
  • "* ******* *** ****** ** ***** **** **** ** ********, but *** ** *** ************* **** *** *******, *** ******* and ************* **** ** ********, **** ****** *** ******* ******* negative."
  • "** * ******** ***, * *** ** ********* ***** ******* the *** **** ******* *************, *** ***** ************** *** *** previous ******** *******."
  • "****** ****** ********** ******* * ******** ******."
  • "**** *** ***** **** **** *** ** ********* ** ***** low **** *******."
  • "** **** ** ********* *** ******* ********* ** ****** *** low-price ******* *********. *** *** ***** **** **** * ******** year *** ** **** ** ********* *** **** ******."
  • "********* *** ***** *** ******* *** *** ******* ** ****** their **** ****** ** ** ****** **********."
  • "*** ****** **** ** *** ********-**** ************* *** **** ** in ****-**-**** *********** **** ***-**** ******* *************."
  • "*** **** ********* **** ** ****** ** ** **** ** the ****** ******* *** ******* *******."
  • "**** *********** **** *** ***** ******, ** ***** *** **** criteria ** **** ** *** ******* *** ************ ** *** Chinese ******* *** ***** **** (*********, ******,...)"
  • "**** ** *** ***'* *** ******** ** ****** *** ********* of ******* ************ **** ********** ******* ** ***-****"
  • "*** ***** *** *********, ******* *** **** ** ********. ** contrast, *** ***** ***********, ******* *** **** ** ***** ********."

**** ** ******* ** **** **** **** *********** **** ** 2013 ******** #* ******* **** ** ******* - ***** *** *** high. **** *** ***** ************* **** ****, ********* *** **** doing ******* ** ***** ****, ** ****** ****** ** ******** opportunity *** ******* ************* **** ********* *** *****. *********, ** are *************** **** ******** ***** ***** ************** *** ************* *** ********* *** ****.

December **** ******

**********, ***** *************, **** *******, ********* *** *** ******* ****** on *** ***** ************ ******** ** ****, ******* **** ****** and ******** *** ****** **** **** ********* ******* ******. *******, see: *** ************* ******* *** ****** ****

Economy ******

** *** ******** ****, **** ************* ***** * ******** ******* as * ********:

  • "********, ******* *** ******* ** ** *** ***** ******* *** the *********."
  • "******** ******** *******, ***** ************."
  • "*******, * *** **** *********** ** *** ******* ********* ** improve."
  • "* ******* *** *******, ** *** ** ** *****, **** continue ** *******."
  • "****** ******** **********."
  • "* ******* ***** **** *****, ******** **** *******, **** **** a ******** ****** ** *** ********** ** ****."
  • "*'* *** ** ********* *** ** ***** **** **** **** be * ****** ****** ****."
  • "***** ** **** *'** **** / ***** ** ** *********, the ******** *********."
  • "** *** ****** ******* ********* ** *******, *** ***** ************ industry **** ** ****."
  • "* *** *** ***** ******* ******* ***** ********* *** ******* for ********."
  • "********. **** ** ******* *** ******* ** ** ***** ** be ******."

******* ** ****, * *** ************* ****** *** **** ***** were ******** ** **** ******:

  • "** *** ******** ** *** **** *******, *** ******* *** market **** ********** ******* ******* ****** **** ******* ** **** and ****, ***** ******** ***** *** ** ********** ***** ******** and ***************."
  • "**** ******** *** ******* ** *** ***** ** ******** ** flow. * ***** **** **** ** *** **** ** *** the ****** ******** ** *****."
  • "*** *** ******** **** **'** **** "********" *** * **** or ***, *** ******* ******** ** ******. ************, ******* *** the *** ** *** / **** ** **** ******* ** expand / ******* ******** *********** *** **** ** *** ******* for ****."

Security ********

*********** ** * ******** *******, * ******* ****** ** ************* cited ******** ******** ** * ********:

  • "*****, ****** ******** ******** ** ******* ** **** *** ****(**) quality ************ *********."
  • "***** ****** **** ******** - ******** ** ******, ******** ** schools *** ****** ******, ********** **** ******** ** ******* (**** or *********) ** ******** ******** **** ** ****, ***********, **************."
  • "********/****** ** *********** ******** ** ****** *****."
  • "********* ********** ** ***** **** *** *****."
  • "**** ******* ** ********* ********* ********, ***** ************ **** ******** to ** * *****."
  • "************* *** ***** ********* ** ** ** ****** *****."
  • "*** ********* ********** ********** ** * **** ***** *** ***** surveillance."

*** ****** ** *** ** *** ******** ****-**** ******** ***** it **** *** **** */**, *** **** ********* ****** ********* routinely, **** ************* ***** *** ************ ********.

Upgrades - **** ******

*************, ***** **** **** *** ************* ******* *** ******** ** being * ******** ****** *** *** ********:

  • "*** ********* ** ** ******** ** ********."
  • "** ****** ** ******, ******* **** ********/** ** ******."
  • "*** ***** ** ** ******* ** ******* ******** ************ ** older ******* ********** ***** *** ** ************ *** **** *** been *********!"
  • "***** *** * *** ** ****** ********* *** **** ******* to **."

**** ******* *** ********* ****** ** *********** ****** ** / HD ******** ** * ***** ****** ****** ** *********** ***** ******** ****. *******, **** ** *** **** **** *** *** ******** that *** ******* *** ***** ******** ******* ******, ******* **** on ***** ******** / **********. 

Warning **** * ***** ************

** ******** ** *** ** *** *****'* ******* ************* *** a **** ********** *******, ******:

"* ***** ******* ** *** ***** ******* ************* **** ***** seeing *** ******** **** **** *** **** ******* ******, ***** the ******* ****** **** ***** ************ ** *** ****** *******. For *** ***-******** **** **** **** ****** **** ***** ******, but **** * ***** **** ******* ******** ***** ** *********** costs ** *** ******* ****** ***** ******** **** ******* *******. There ***** *********** ** * ******** *** *** ******* ****** though, **** *** ** ******* *** ******** ******** ** ********** enterprise/large ********. ***** ***** ******** **** ** *************** ***** ******** in *** **, **** ***** *** **** ** *** ******* industry ***** ****** *** ****** **** ********** ****** ******* **************. As *** **** ******* *** ********** ** **** *** ******* ****** and *** ******** ** ******* ********* **** ********** **** *** many ********** *********** *** **** *** *****. *** ********, ********** the ******* ******, ***** ****** **** ** **** ** ********** to ******* **** *** ***-**** *************, ***** *** ********* *********** such ** ***, ********, ***** *******, *** **** ** *********** and ********* **** ** ***-**** ********."

** ************** *****. ** *** ******* ****** **** ******* **** the ****** ************* ***** ****** ***** *** **** *******. ****** Dahua *** ********* *** ***** *** ******** ******, ** ** inevitable **** **** **** ***** **** **** ** ****** ********* players.

Avigilon ********?

**** *** ************ ********* ********.

*******, **** ** ****, *** ******** ******** ********:

"********. ******* * **** *** ********! ** **** ********!!!!!!!"

Comments (48)

Scott Sheldrake

01/07/15 10:41pm

*** ***** *** **** ****** * **** ****. *'** ********* this ****** ** **** *** **** **** ** **** * customer *** ********** ******* ** ****** ***** ******. *** *** a $** *** *********-* (***) *** *** ***** *** * $1000 **** *****-** (***). *** ******** ****** ** **** *** the *** ****** ****** ****** **** *** ****.

**** ********** ****** **** ********, *** **% ** **** ** unused. *** *** ******** ****** *** *** (** ****** ********, IR, ***) *** ***** ** *** ****** ** ***-*** *** cameras.

* ******* **** ** **** *** **** *** *** ****** said **** ***** *********** ********** *** ****** **** *** ********* Infrared (**** ** *********) *** **** **** *****'* *******. ****** if ****** ** ******** ** ***** ***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Scott Sheldrake | 01/08/15 12:57am

*****,

*'** **** ******* * ***** ** *** **** **** ***** make * *********** ** *** ********* / ***** ***-*** *******. Axis ****** ******** ** ** *** *********, ** ** ******** it **** **** ** ** ****.

** **** ******** *******, * ***** *** **** ***** **** can *** *** *********** *** ** ** *** ** ** their ***** ***** *****. ***** ***, **** ****** **** ** dome ** ~$***, ***** ** * **** *** *********** ****** every ***** ** ********* ** **** *** ** ******** *********** for **** ** ***** ~$*** ********. **** *** ********* ****** a ******* *** ** ** * *** ****.

Undisclosed #1

01/08/15 02:43am

*** *** ***** **** *** ******* *************' #* ******/**** ***?

*******/*************? ** **** *** '*****' ******* ************?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 01/08/15 02:45am

******* ************'* #* ****** ** ***** *** ******** :) **, yes, '*****' ******* *************.

Andy Loo

01/08/15 05:10am
******** ********? **** **** ***** ****** **** ** ********* ** Dahua. ** ** ******* ********* **** ** *********, ** ***** of ****, * ***** *** **% ** *** ****** *** now ***** ***** **** ********. *** ****** *** **** **** either ******* ** ********* ******** ** ** ****** * **** relationship **** *** ******. *******, ***** **** ****** ******* ** not ***** ** **** ******* **** *** **** ** ******** development *** **** *** ******** ******* *** ***. **** ******* to ******* ******* ****. ***** ***** ******* *** ******* **** hot ***** ******.

Richard Norburn

01/08/15 06:12am

* **** **** ***** * **************** * ***** *** ** **** ******* ** **** *****. Watch ***, *** ***** *****, ******** *** ************* ****, ***** a ****** **** ******** ********, ***** *** *** *** ** down. *** **** ** *** ****** ** **. ** *** large, **** ****** *** ** *********.

Itamar Kerbel

01/08/15 07:23am

**,

*** ** *** **** *** ***** ******* ************* **** ***** give ********* *** ***** * **** *****?

** ***** ** *** * **** *********** ****** **** *** to ******...

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Itamar Kerbel | 01/08/15 08:15am

******,

**'* * **** ******** ***, ** ******, ***** *** * lot ** ******* *************. **** ** **** **** **** ***** prices **** ***** *** ********* (*.*.,******* $** ***** ** ** ******* ******,******* $** ***** ***,******* ****** **, ***.).

**** ****, * ** *** **** **** ***** ** ******* and ******* ***** ********* *** ******** (** **** *** ****). I'd **** ** **** **** *************** *** ****, ** ** anyone *** ***, **** **** ** *** ** **** **********.

Tony Luce

In reply to John Honovich | 01/12/15 10:45pm

** ******* *** ****** ** *** ******** *********** *** ***** on *** ************ **** ** ***** *** **** * ****** there ** *** ***** *'* **** ****** ******* *** ********* or ***** *********** ****** *** ** ***** *** ****'* ****: they ***'* ****** *****.

*****'* ***** ******** (**** ** *** ******) ****** ***** ** split ********* ******* ***** *** ********* - ********* ***** **% - **** ********* ****** */**** ** **** ** ****** **% market ***** *** ***** ****** ****** **-**%.

*** ********* *% ** ***** ******* ********* ** ********* - all ******** ** ** ***** ****** ********* *** *****. *** the ******** ** ***** ********* **** ***** ******** *** ******* and **** *** **** *** **** **** ************* ***** ** Dongguan (******* ** *** ***** ** ***** ******* ******** *** Guangzhou).

**-**** **** ****'* ***** - *** ********** *** **** ***** and ********* ** ******* ******* **** ********* ** ***** ******* to ******* ***** ***** ******* *** ******* - *** **** is ***** ** **** ****, **** ***** ** ********* "******" dominates ** ***** ****** **** ******* * ********** *******.

***** ** **** *** ***** ** **********. *** **** ** the ****** *** ****** ** ****** ** **** ********* ** the *****-******** (****** ******** **** ***** **********, ***/***** **, ******-*********) camera ****** **** **** * *** ***. ** **** ** western ************* *************[**********: ****** ** ******* **** ** / ***] ******** ** innovate ** ***** ********* (**** ****-******* *********, *** *******) *** integrators *** ******* ** ***** *** ** ***** *** ************ in * *****-****** ******** ** ***** ******** **** **** ****-***** integrators ****** **** ****** ** ***** ***** **** ******* ****** end *********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

01/08/15 01:43pm

*** **** ** *** **** ** ******...

*** **** ** *** **** *** ********?

*** ** *** ******** **** ********** **** *** ****** ****, and ****.. ** */*** *** ***** *** *****'* ******** **** one?

**** ***** * ***, **'* *** ******** ***** ****** *** are ****** ** **** **** **** ******, *** *** ********* unwilling ** *** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2 | 01/08/15 02:10pm

"**'* *** ******** ***** ****** *** *** ****** ** **** with **** ******, *** *** ********* ********* ** *** ****."

* ***** ** *******. ** * ************, ******, * ***** the ****** *** ** *** ****** (**** ********** *** *** user) *** ********* **** ******** ***** ****** *** ******, ***** quality *** ******* ********. **'* ***** **** * **** ****** brand ************* **** (****) ** **** ***** *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2 | 01/08/15 02:45pm

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* *** * ************ **** ********* ***** **** ** ** iPhone *** *** *********/***** ** * ********. * ***** ******** ask **** ************ ** **** *** **** **** *** ****. The ****** ** ****. ***** ******* ******* ******* ** ******* not ** *** ********. ** *** ************************ ** ******* ****** ******* * *****. *** ******, ** not **** ***** ******* ********/******** ******** *******, ***** ****** *** (and ***** ***** ***) ****** *** *********** ** **** ** features. * **** ****** ******* ********** *** **** **% ** Axis ******** ** ******.

**** ** ****** **** ******** ******. *** **** ** *** bottom *** *******.

****, *** ** **** ******* ********* **** ** **** *** corporations. ** *** ** *****'* **** **** ********, ********** **** the ****** *******.

** ********** * *****. **** *** *** ** ***** ***** $100 ********* **-**** *** ******* **** ** *** ***** ********** with **** *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 01/08/15 02:53pm

* ***'* ***** ******* ***** ******* **** ** * ***-******** factor, *** ** *** ** ******* *******, **** ***** *** cameras *** ** "*******" ** **** ** ******* ****** *******, night ** ***, ** *** **** **** *** **** *** shutter ***** ******. **'* * ******* **** ****** ***** *** tell **. *** **** ***** **** * *** ******* **** an "*******" *******, ** ** ****** * ****** *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 01/08/15 03:22pm

*** ********* *** ***** *** *** ***** / ********* ** slow ******* ******, ********** ******* ** ** ** ****** ********* in ***** *******.

******* **** ** **** ****** *** **** '*******' **** ********* or ***** ** **** ******, **** **** ** ** ***** enough **** **** ** ****** **** ** **** **** ***** with *** ****** ******* **% ** **% ****.

** *** **** **** ** **** ** ******** ********* ** *******, **** **** ************ *********** *** *** ** ****** ***** ***** ****.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

01/08/15 01:51pm

********, ***** ******* *** **** ********** **** ************ ** *** near ****** (** ** *******).. ** * **** ** ******** in *** ** ***** ********* (********, ****, *******, ***) * would *** *** ***... *** **** ***** ** ******* ** the ***** *********, ***** ************ *** *** ******** ******* *** customers ****** ***** ***** ******. ***** ***** **** (***) *** going ** *** **********. ** **** ***** ********** **** **** and *'* ********* ** *** **** ******* **** **** ****** off *** ****!! **** *********** **** ** ***** **** **** China, ** *** *** ** **** *** **** ******* ** value ***** ***** ********? * ***'* ***** * *** **** sells ** * ****** *** $*,*** **** * **** *** isn't ***** ***** **** $***. **'** ******* *** ******, ********* our *******, *** ******** *** ********* ******** ***** ******** *** western **** **** *** ******. **** ********

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 01/08/15 02:13pm

"** * **** ** ******** ** *** ** ***** ********* (Avigilon, ****, *******, ***) * ***** *** *** ***"

****,*******'* ********* **** ******* ***** **** ******....

***, ****' **** ********* ****** **** ** ******** ******* ****, which ****** ******* **** *****.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

In reply to John Honovich | 02/24/15 02:17pm

*** **** **** *** "*** *** ***"

** *** **** ******** ****** ** **** ** ***** ** this **** **** **** ** ** ** ***** ** * peak. **** ***** ***** ** *** ************.

******** ******* ** ******** ** ******* *** * ***** *** they ****** **.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #9 | 02/24/15 02:22pm

*********** *, * ***** **** *** ** *** ******* ********.

* ***** **** **** **** *** ***** ********** (**** ********, etc.). ******* *** ********** **** ****** *** ****, *** ** **** **** ***** **** **** *** **** the ***** *** ***** ********** *** ** **** **** *********, this ***** ********.

Barry Shaw

01/08/15 03:17pm

* ***** **** *** **** ***** *** '*************** ***** ********' - *** ** (& ********) ********** ** **** ***** **** be ****** ** **** ** *** ******* *** ************* **** as *** ******* ******** ****** ** ****** *** ** ******* & ******. ******** **’* ******** **** **** ****** ***** ***** is ***** ** ******. ****** *** *********** – ***’* *** all **** **** ** *** ******* ******!

** * **** ********** ****, ***** *** ********** *** ******* Government *** *** (*********) ******* ** *******, ************* & ********** networks, ***** ** ** ************* ******* **** ****** *** *****'* largest ******? ** ** ** *** ******* **** **** ***** (and *****) **** * ****** ****** *** ** ***** *******?

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Barry Shaw | 01/08/15 03:36pm

*****... ** *** **** ***** ***** ** **** *** ***** parts ****? ** **** *** ******* **** (***** ***'* ******, have *** **** *** **** *** ****?) **** ***** *** Chinese ******* *****. ***** ****** ******** *** **** ******* **** parts. **** ** ***** ******* *** **** ********* ************. **** are ******** *********** ***-*,***% ****** ** ******** *** ******* *********** the **** ******/***** ** *** *******. **** *** **** **** to *****? **'** **** (** *** *******) ******* *** **** brands ******** ***** ******* ******* *** **** ***. *** * shame **** ** **** ** ***** ******** **** **** ********* integrators **** ***** ** ******* ** ****** ********* *********.

Barry Shaw

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 01/08/15 03:42pm

**** ******* **** **'** ** **** ** **** ********** ************ in **** *******. ********* ***** **** ** ********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 01/08/15 03:43pm

"*** * ***** **** ** **** ** ***** ******** **** have ********* *********** **** ***** ** ******* ** ****** ********* different."

********* **** ** ** ** **** **** *** ** **** who ***** ***** ******** *** **** **** ***** *** **** relabelling.

** **** *****'* ******** ****, **** ***** *****, **** **** merit, **** **** **** ******* **, ******* / ********, ******** support, ***. ***, *** **** ** * ****** **** ********* is ********* *********.

Barry Shaw

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 01/08/15 03:59pm

* ***'* ****** **** ** ******* ** ***** ****** ****** you ***** ***** ** ** **** ********* ********. *'* ** genuinely ********** ** **** **** ***** ** *** **** **** facts ** ***** ** ***** *************** ****. ***** **** *. has **** **** ** ** *************?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Barry Shaw | 01/08/15 04:05pm

*****,

* ******* *** *** ********* ** **** *****:

"***** ****** ******** *** **** ******* **** *****. **** ** these ******* *** **** ********* ************"

** **, * ***** ****'* ******* ********. * ** **** there *** **** **********. ***** **** *** ****** ***** ** Japanese ***** *** ** * ******* ****, **** *** '*************' who '************' ** *** **, *** ***** *** ********* *** from *** **.

***, **** ** ********** / *********** ** **** **** * ** ********** ********.

Barry Shaw

In reply to John Honovich | 01/08/15 04:13pm

** ****,

**** ****, *** **** "**** *** ******** *********** ***-*,***% ****** to ******** *** ******* *********** *** **** ******/***** ** *** chinese."

*'* ** ********** ** *** *** **** ** ****** **** into **** **** ** ******** *****, ******** ****, ***** ***** features (** ***), *****, *********, ************ ***** *** ********/**** ******* costs ***. ** ***** *****, **** ** ***** ******* *** profit?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Barry Shaw | 01/08/15 04:20pm

*** ***-*,***% ****** **, ** ** *********, ** ******* ************.

*** *** ****** ** ********* ****** *******. *** **** ****** financial ********** **** ******* ***** ************ *** ****** ***, ***** ***** ******* **** ****** *** and ** **** *** *******.

**********, *** *********'* *** *** **'* ** *** ***** ** better *********** ***, ******* ****** ******* ******, **** *** *********** in *** ****, (*) **** *** **** ***** ************* *** already **** ** *** ***** ******** *** (*) **** **** a *** ** ***** / ********* ***** **** *** **** net *******.

*** **** ** ** ************ **** ********** ******* ******* *** long ****.

Dennis Dyer

01/08/15 03:59pm

*** **** - ** **** **** * *** ***'* **** their ******** ** ***** *******. ******** *** * ***** *** facitity **** ***** ** *** *** ********* - *** *******. The ***** ******** ***'* **** ******** ***** **** *** **** higher **** *** ***** ***'* *** **** **** **** ***** to ***** *** - ** **** * *** ** ***** American ***'* **** ** **** ******* ** *******.

**** **** ****, ***** **** ******* ** **** ** **** today ** *** ******* ******* *** ************** ** *** ******* that ****** ******* **** ******** ** ***** ********** ******. ** should ***** **** ************ ** ******** *** ********** ************ *** look ** *** ********** ***/** *************. ** **** *** *** camera **** ******* *** ******** *** **** *** ******* **** in *****. ** **** **** ************** *** *******, ** *** features - *.*-**** ***** - ***** ** ******** *** *********** requirements ** ********.

******* - ********** * ***** *********** (******* *****) *** ******** dome ******* **** *-***, ** & ********* **** (*********) *** approximately $***.** **-****. **** **** **** * *** - ** fixed ****** *** $***.** **-****.

********** * ***** * *** ******* ***** *** ****** * 2mp - *.*-*** **** **** ** - (****** ****) ** $399.00 ** **** *** * *** ****** **** * ** fixed **** & **** ****** ** *** $***.** ** ****.

***** - *** **'* * *** *** - ** **** assume **** **** ********** ***** ******* ***, ***.. *** **** Integrators *** *** **** ***.

******** **** **** ** * * ************ *** ** ********* the *******, *** * ******* ****** **** *******. ********** * will **** ** ****** **** **** *** ***** ***** **** are *********. ********** * **** **** **** *********** ******* *** right ******** **** * *.*-*** **** *** ***** ** ****** use **** *******.

**** *** **** *** ********* - ** **** ****** **** Integrator * **** * **% ******** **** ***** *** ********** B **** ******** **** *** ****** *** **** **%. *** interesting **** ** ******* - ********** * *** * **** tested (****** ***) ******** *** *** ******** ********* **** ***** their *** *** ***** **** *** ****. ********** * ** the ***** **** **** **** ** ******* ******* *** ***** solution **** ***** ** ***** **********. ** ** ********** - the *** **** **** **** *** ********** ***** ** ***** reputation. ** *****'* ******** ****** *** *** & * *** F1000 ******** ** ****** ****** ** ******** *******. **** ** a **** ***** ** **** ***'* - *** ********** "****" most ** *** ******* ****.

******* ******* *** **** *********** ** * ****** ******* *** include ******* *********** ** ****** ****** ***.. ********** * ** very **** ********* *** ********* ******* ***** **** *** ************ can ******* ** ******** ** ** * ******* ******** **** to ** **** ******** **** ***** *******.

*** *** ** **** **** ****** **** ** **** ** have * *** ***** ** ********** **** ** ******* ** be ******** *** ****** ******* **** **** *** *** ****'* requirements - *** ******* ******* * ********* ** **** ******. Integrator * *** ****** *** *** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Dennis Dyer | 01/08/15 04:34pm

"******* - ********** * ***** *********** (******* *****) *** ******** dome ******* **** *-***, ** & ********* **** (*********) *** approximately $***.** **-****. **** **** **** * *** - ** fixed ****** *** $***.** **-****."

* ***'* ***** ****'* ** ******** ********** ** ****.

* ***** **** * ******* ***** ****** **** *** ***** you **** **** **** **** ****** ***** ***** (**** ***** ****, ********, **** *** ********* ******* ******* ***** ***** with ** ******* ***** ~$*,***).

*******, * ******* ***** *** ******, **** **** **, ** likely ** **** * **** ***** ****** ***** **** *** estimate. **** ***** ******* **** ***** ***** ***** / *** *** ***** $200.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

01/08/15 04:51pm

**** ** *** ***** *** ****** ****** ** *** ****** for *** ** ** ****** ** ******** ******* *******?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 01/08/15 05:02pm

***** ******* *********** ***'* ******* ******** ***** ***** ** ********** / ******** ***********, * ** *** **** *** **** ***** do ** *** ************ *******.

Frank Zhao

01/08/15 05:17pm

** ****** ** **** *********; ******* *********** *** ********** ******** on **** ******** *** ******** ****. * **** ** **** tech ***** *********. ** ***’* **** *** ******** ********* ** do *** **** ****. *** ** *****, *********, *****, *********, and *****-*****, **** ********* ********, *** **** *** ******** *********, developing ** ****** *** *** (***), **** **** *** *** night.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Frank Zhao | 01/08/15 05:19pm

****, ********* ***** ****** *,*** ********* ** *&* *** **** seems ** ** **** ** * ******** **** ********. *,*** engineers *** *** **** *** **** ** **** ** ********* products? *** ******* *** ***** ** ********** *** **** *,*** real *********, * ***** ****** **** **********, **?

Ed Vergara

In reply to John Honovich | 01/08/15 07:39pm

***'** ***** ****! **** *,*** ********* **** ***** ** ******** a *** *** *****.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

In reply to John Honovich | 01/12/15 09:31am

** ********** ** **** **** ****** ** ** "********" ** a ******* ******* ** * **** ****** **** **** ** would *** ** *** ****.

Tony Luce

In reply to John Honovich | 01/13/15 04:02am

********* **** ****** *,*** ********* ** "*&*" - * ******** of ***** **** ** ***** ******** **** ******* ****** ********, not *** **** ******* ****.

****** ***** ******* (***** ** *****) ** ***** ******** *********** to *** ***** ******* (***, **** & **********, *****) *** custom-developed ********.

*** ***** ****** ** **** ********* ** ** ** ****** by ***-***** *** ***** *** ********* ** *** **********-********** ***** you *** **** ** ***** ******* *** *****-*******-**** ******* **** as *** ** ** *********. ******* *** *** ***-***** ********* features - ***** ** **** *** ****** ***** ** ************* to ****-*** *********** ********. *** ****** ***** ***** ******** *** vapor-ware **** *** **** ********* ** *** ***-**** ** *** and ****-** * ******* ** *** ****** ** * "******" (kickbacks *** **** *** ****) *** ********* **** **** ** compete **** ** ******* ** ******* ** * *******.

*********'* ******** ***** *** ** ******* **** ***/*** ******** ** the ****** *** *** ********** *** ******** ** *** ** pretty ***** ******** *** **** ***** ********* ********. ****** ********* took ***** ****** ** ***** ******* * ******* ** ********* and "****-****" *** **** ******** **** *************** - ******* * majority ** *********'* ******* (** ***** ** **** **********) ***** comes **** *** ***** ******.

*** **** ** ****** ********* ******* ** ***** ***** ** hinder *********'* ******* ** *** ***** ******** (********* ******* ********* them ** "****-****" ******** ** *** ****** **** ** *** 2000s) ** ********* ********* ***** ****** ************ ******* ** **** or **** (***'* ******** *** ***** ******) *** ***** *** sales **** *** ***** ****** ******** ********* *** ******* ******** approaching ***-*****. ** ***** **** "*&*" ********* *** * *********** of ***** ********* *** **-**** ******** ********** **** *** **** to ******** - ********* *** ***** ** * **** ** the ******* ** ***** ****** - ** **** **** ********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Tony Luce | 01/13/15 07:59am

"********* **** ****** *,*** ********* ** "*&*" - * ******** of ***** **** ** ***** ******** **** ******* ****** ********, not *** **** ******* ****."

****, ****'* *********** ******** *** ***** *****.

**** *********, * ** *** ** **** ****** **** * would **** ********* ******* ** ******, ********** ******** ** *&* though. **'* **** ************ ********.

Frank Zhao

01/08/15 05:36pm

**’* *** ****, *** **** *** ****** ********. ***** $*** camera *** ****** ******* **** $***+ ****** **** ******, ****’* many ***** **** ****, ****’* *** ********.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

01/08/15 06:14pm

**

***** ******** ****** ** *** ********* **** "*** ****** *** be **** ** ******* ***** ****** ********". **** ** *** kind ** ******* **** *** ****** **** **** * ************ to *** ***** ** ********/**********. **** **! ********* *** ***** routinely ***** ** ******* ********** ****** ** (******* *******) *** at * ***-****** ***** *** ... **** *** ***** ******** we *** ******* *****? *** ********* *** **** ** *** average?

* ** **** *** ****** ** "********** **. ****** *** the ***********/************/**************, *** *** ******** **** *** ****** *********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

01/08/15 06:25pm

****...******* ******** ***** ****** **** ******** *** ** ******** ********, but ** *** ********* ******** ***** *** ******** ** ****** installations. **** ****** ******** ******* ******* ** ** ** *** high *** ** *** **** ***** ** ******* ******** ******* hacking, ***. ******* *********** ************* *** ******* ** *********** *** security ** ***** **********, *** **** ***** ** * ******** counter ** *** ******* ******* *******, ********** ** *** ***** start ******* ** *** ******** ***** ******* ***** *** ** their ********.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #7 | 01/08/15 06:29pm

******** ****** * ****** ****** ******* ***'* ** *****. ******* I ***** ***** **** ******** ** * ******* ******* **** other ********* *** *** ******** ***** ** * ***** *** concern. * ***'* ******* **** ******* **** **** **** *** significant ******** ** ******** ***** ** ****** ******* **** *****. Strong ********* *** ****** *** ******* ******* ********** ** *** OEM.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #7 | 01/08/15 08:07pm

*, **'* ********* * *******. *** ******** ******, **** ** bad, ** *** *** *** ****** * ***** ****** ****** for ************ ******* / *******. ** **** * **** **** there ** * ***** ***** ** ****** *** *** ******* motivated ** ***** ***** ********* *** ****** *********** ** *********** security *****. **** ***** ** *******, *** * ******* **'* an ******** *********** ** *** ****** *****.

Steve Mitchell

01/08/15 06:29pm

* **** ** *** ******* **** **** ** ******* **** (in ****) **** ***** ******** **** ******* ************ ******** ***** undermine *** *********** ************’* ******* ** *******—**** ** *** **. As ****** **** ****, *** ***** *** ** ****** * mile ****.

******* ************* *** ******* ******* ** *** **** *** *****. I **** *** ******* ******** *** **** ** ** ** extremely **** *******. *** *******/********* *** *** ************* ** ************, schedule, *** ****—**** ** *** ********** *** ******* ** **** with ** *** ************ ********. *** ************* ** *****/****** *** increasingly *********** **** **** ***** ** ***** ** ***** *** capability. ** ** ****** ** ** ******** **** ******* ******* products *** ***** *** *********. ** ***** ** ******** (******** of ******** ******** ** *******) **** **** ***** ********** ********** as ****—**** ***** **** ** *** *** ************ *** ****** of ********** *** ********* ******** ********* **-******* **** *** **** consumer ***********.

*** ************ ** ******* ************ ******** ******** *********** ** ***** ‘surveillance’ *********. *** **’* ** ***** *** ********* ******* ** work **** ** ** ******** **** ******* ******** ** *** specifications *** ************. *****’* ** ****** (***) ** ************ ***’* compete ** *****—** **** **** ** **** ******* ** ****** other **** *** **** ****** ***** ** ** ********** ****** box. *** ********* ** ******* *** **** * ****** ** the ***-******* ************’* *** *** **** **** ***.

****’* ******* ** *** ****** ** ** ****** * ***** camera ** * *** *****. ** ******** ****** ***** ** individual ****** ***** *** ***** ** ** * ****. ********, the **** “************” ***** **** *** ***** ** *** *****. As **** ** ** *** ********* ** **** * ************* company, **’** ****.

***** ** ***** ***** *********** *** ********* ***** ** *** principle ** ***** ********* ** ************ ******* *** ******** (******** to ********* **** **** ** *********** *****). ***** *** ********* with ****** ********** *** ******* *************. **** **** **** ********/*********, full ***** ** ******** ****** *** ********, *** ****-**-***** ************* of ***** ********. *** ********* ** ** **** ** * level **** ******* ***** ** *** **** ** ********** ******** to *** **** ** ****** ******* **** ******* **** ***** than *** *** ** ***** *****.

******** ** **** ****** ********* *** ********** ******* ** ****** and * ********. *** ********** ***’* ** *** ****** ********** but ** *** ********* *****’* ******* ****** ******** *******, *****, and *********. **** ****** ** ****** ************ ********, *** *** of *** ********* ********* ****** ** *** *****. ***** **** compete ** ******—**** **** ******* *** **** ******* ******** (**** in *****).

Dan Bilodeau

01/10/15 04:15am

*******,**** ** ****, *** ******** ******** ********:

"********. ******* * **** *** ********! ** **** ********!!!!!!!"

* ******* ******** ******* ***** ********* **** ************* ** **** forum. * **** **** ****** *** ******* ** *** ***. :)

John Honovich

IPVM | 01/13/15 02:19am

*** #* ***** ************ ************ ** *****, ********* ** ****, is*******.

******* ****** $*** ******* *** ******* *** ****, **** ***** be ***** **% ** *** ******** **** ******* *** ********* and ***** (~$*.* ********). ****, ******* ******* **** ********* *** 29 *******.

**** ****** ************ ********** ******* ************ ********* ********.

** ***'* ****** **** ******** ***** ****, ****** **** **** had **** ***** ** *** ******* **** ********* ******** **** ***** ******* (*****, *** *** a ********* *** * ******* ************). *******, **** ******* *** ** ** ***** **** ***** a ****. **'** ******** ** *** ** *** * ***** of ***** **** *****.

*******, **** ******* *** ** ** ***** **** ***** * test. **'** ******** ** *** ** *** * ***** ** where **** *****.

Undisclosed #1

In reply to John Honovich | 01/13/15 06:53am

****** **** *** ********* *********** **** **** *** * *.*. ***** *******, ** ******** by******* ****.*. *****. *** **** *******?

****, ******** **** ****** #* ** *****, **** *** ****** #1 ** *** ************ ********* ****** ** *******, ******* *** day *** ******* *** ******...

Itamar Kerbel

01/13/15 06:52am

** **** ******* ** ******* **** **** ** ******* ******.

*. ******* ***** ** ** ** *********** **** ** *** Da *** ***** ****** *** ******.

*. **** **** **** **** ** *** ********* ** **** via ******** *** **** *** ****** ******* ******* **** ** compeate **** **** *** *****.

*. **** **** ** ****** *** ******* **** ** ** best. * **** *** ** **** *******.

*. *** ***** *** **** ** * ******* ** **** integration **** ********* *** ******** ***** ******* **** *&* ****** and ***** **** ******* ********. ** **** ******** * **** NVR ** ****.

*. ******* **** ***** ** *** ********* ** *** **** both ***'* *** *** ********** *** *** ******* ** *** I ***** *** **** ** * ****.

*. **** ********* ** ****** *** ******* *** *** *** sales *** ******* ********** ** ******.

*'* ***** *** **** ***'* ***** ** **** ***** ** be *** * ***** ******* ****** ******* ** **** **** them ** **** **** ************* *** ******** *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Itamar Kerbel | 01/13/15 01:11pm

******,

****** *** *** ******** ********. * ****** **** ** ******* and **** ** ***** ********:

"**** ** **** ** ****, *** ******** *** *********** *** projects ** *****, ** ** ** *** **** ******** *** international ************. ****, ******* ********* *** ******** ********* **** ********* needs. ** **** ***** **** ***** *** *** ***** ** get ** **** **** **** ****, **** *** *** ********, and ******* ********. ********, **** ** *** ***** **** ** the ************* ******. ***** *** *** ****** ***** **** ******** ago. ** **** *** **** ******** *** *********** **** *** customers. *** *** *** *** ******** * *** ***. ** will *** *** **** ** ******* *** ******** ** **** as ******** ******* ** ****."

Itamar Kerbel

In reply to John Honovich | 01/13/15 03:58pm

*** ***** **. * ***** ****'* **** ** ** ******* my ***** **** :)

*** * *** *** *** **** ***** *** ** **, a *** **** ***** **** * ******.

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