ISC West 2015 Show Full Report

IPVMU Certified

I was just happy to work my way through the maze of casinos to find where to pick up my badge. Now trying to find who I need/want to talk to on the floor? Not looking forward to it!

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Undisclosed #1

+1 to IPConfigure - witty and topical wordplay

-1 to Genetec - shouldn't one size fit at least one?

-2 to SES - caveman has no facial hair but does apparently have a gym membership

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Keefe Lovgren

IPVMU Certified

"we don't say google because that would scare people."

i love that, thanks for the laugh...

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified

Give it up to ONVIF for the timely pop culture reference! ...oh wait

I guess Pee-Wee Herman was too dated?

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Ethan Ace

IPVM

In reply to Brian Rhodes

Pee-Wee is at least making a new movie...

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Matt Transue

In reply to Ethan Ace

At least nobody pulled an Elvis off the street.

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Keefe Lovgren

IPVMU Certified

In reply to Brian Rhodes

and they forgot to put their booth number on the banner...

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

In reply to Brian Rhodes

Speaking of ONVIF and Austin, has anyone got a chance to check out the lair of archrival HD-CCTV?

Lecture by Dr. Evil Todd.

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John Honovich

IPVM

Once the 'Alliance' simply became a marketing arm for Dahua, it stopped being relevant. He is super active on LinkedIn groups, battling with random people, so if you miss him, check that out.

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

...they stopped being relevant.

It wasn't hard to do.

Anyway, if the crew is in the neighbourhood, I'm sure he's worth a quick reaction-shot pan, even if just for historic reasons.

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

Many of you don't know this, but Austin Powers happens to be an ONVIF member. (A full member, of course.)

Look for him at ONVIF's booth at ISC West! - Facebook

They're just kidding, right? ;)

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

Member - LOL. I know it is Vegas but I don't want to see his full member...

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Michael Archer

I thought austin powers was a GoldMember

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Eric Fleming Bonilha

I still don't get this IPConfigure announcement... what are they talking about??? Certainly they did not acquire the company Cannon that bough both Milestone and Axis...

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John Honovich

In reply to Eric Fleming Bonilha

IPVM

English wordplay. Perhaps a visual will help:

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Eric Fleming Bonilha

Ahhhhh... sneaky...

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to Eric Fleming Bonilha

IPVMU Certified

I think it would be clearer if you read this release from the vendor.

Basically it explains how IPconfigure bought an antique artillery Cannon. Apparently they are now charging or about to charge with it to the front line somewhere.

Once there, it is to be used in metaphoric defense of open and independent systems, which have been threatened by recent industry manuevers. (This is most likely an oblique reference to the Axis/Milestone subjugation as well as other recent deals.)

Ironically, that ends up pitting their antique war 'Cannon' against the similar sounding, but otherwise unrelated electronics manufacturer, 'Canon', since they were the ones who actually acquired Axis/Milestone.

It is a funny coincidence. But it is clearly just a coincidence. ;)

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John Honovich

IPVM

Hopefully, they don't inadvertently blow up the Samsung booth:

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

IMHO, bringing Samsung into the conflict would be a grave error for IPconfigure.

Sound military strategy would insist on gaining a forward base for the powerful Cannon. Of the allies, Hikvision is the logical choice because of its line of sight paths to all three targets. Should be in place no later than Day 2.

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Undisclosed #2

•Oct 23, 2015

IPVMU Certified

Hanwha Techwin Big Gun Ready

IMHO, bringing Samsung into the conflict would be a grave error for IPconfigure.

Yes, it would have been.

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John Honovich

IPVM

Tweet of the show so far?

Need some travel reading for ISCWest? Download "The Definitive Guide to Synchronized Clocks" https://t.co/MmNkBfBg5w
— Pyramid Time Systems (@PyramidTime) April 13, 2015

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

in the hotel this morning, along with the USA today outside my door, was a sample Milestone Husky and a coupon for 50% off my next purchase

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Hal Bennick

Trafficware, a CUBIC Company

IpConfigure is charging ahead with horribly outdated technology?

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Luis Carmona

Geutebruck USA • IPVMU Certified

In reply to Hal Bennick

How so, Hall? ipConfigure was one of the earlier adopters if HTML5 I saw.

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Undisclosed #1

In reply to Luis Carmona

maybe he meant the 19th century cannon?

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Hal Bennick

Trafficware, a CUBIC Company

In reply to Luis Carmona

I was referring to the cannon, not to IpConfigure. It just seemed like odd symbolism to me - using an antique as a symbol of your progressiveness. It would be like having Lindsey Lohan as a symbol for sobriety.

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Luis Carmona

Geutebruck USA • IPVMU Certified

In reply to Hal Bennick

I can see that, Hal.

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Ari Erenthal

Chesapeake & Midlantic

In reply to Hal Bennick

Now, that's some high quality snark. Well done.

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

Typical hyped announcement, long in vague claims, short in actual specifications.

Do we even know the focal length of this cannon?

Request Ethan swing by IPconfigure booth for standard shootout...

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Steve Mitchell

Because Austin Powers knows how it feels to integrate a camera/VMS.

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

Keynote Soundcheck

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John Honovich

IPVM

I am starting a rumor that Kevin James will be at the IDIS booth tomorrow...

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Ari Erenthal

Chesapeake & Midlantic

Oh, yeah, I heard that too.

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Hal Bennick

Trafficware, a CUBIC Company

I think I saw him racing some of the IDIS guys on Segways....

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John Honovich

IPVM

The Cannon up close:

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Ari Erenthal

Chesapeake & Midlantic

That's actually a pretty sweet cannon. I should get one of those for my office.

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

Looks to be around f/5.6 or worse. Expect a daytime attack.

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Undisclosed End User #5

One Size Fits None

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Sean Patton

"Listen, it's great for the market but a tolerance for lower profit margins is not really a 'breakthrough'." Lower list price does not directly correlate to lower profit margins in any way...

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John Honovich

IPVM

In reply to Sean Patton

"Lower list price does not directly correlate to lower profit margins in any way..."

Then you are assuming they have some significant cost advantage that enables them to maintain margins despite the lower costs.

I do not imagine Samsung Techwin can make cameras that significantly less expensive than Axis or Sony, ergo my statement.

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Sean Patton

Oh, I wasnt thinking about their margins, that doesnt factor into the integrator's margins as far as I am concerned.

From the integrators perspective we can make more actual profit dollars at a higher margin percentage, with a lower sell price to the customer vs some of the other big name manufacturers.

I read the original statement as a comment on taking money out of the integrator's pocket.

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John Honovich

IPVM

In reply to Sean Patton

Ok, got it.

Btw, I agree with the integrator more money phenomenon in the short term, while sharper / more aggressive integrators take advantage.

The problem is typically in the long term, more manufacturers match and the whole market moves down.

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Dale Coulthard

IPVMU Certified

On the Ubiquiti Micro cam - distributors are taking pre-orders. Did they happen to say when they are going into production for resale (not just show models)?

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Brandon De Libro

In reply to Dale Coulthard

I just got a price of $93.79 each or 3 for 276.55 pre-order from my vendor - With a $99.00 MSRP there is no margin.

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Hal Bennick

In reply to Brandon De Libro

Trafficware, a CUBIC Company

Maybe they'll start giving out coupons....

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Undisclosed #6

In reply to Brandon De Libro

Maybe you're not their target customer?

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Hal Bennick

In reply to Undisclosed #6

Trafficware, a CUBIC Company

It seems to me, and I may be wrong, that the bulk of the UBNT strategy lies in developing nations, not in the US.

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Michael Miller

In reply to Dale Coulthard

Good luck wiht UBNT as they have a history of announcing products then shipping them 12 months later.

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Carlos Espinoza

Did you see the 2MP 1920x1080 22X Onvif Mini Speed Dome from Longse? It's small, but seems to be a bargain for less than 200.00 bucks.

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John Honovich

In reply to Carlos Espinoza

IPVM

Carlos,

I don't trust Longse at all. We tested Longse here and it was terrible. They also use super aggressive spam tactics.

Do you currently use Longse cameras? How have they been working for you?

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Carlos Espinoza

A year ago I tried their HD SDI cameras and worked good. Four months ago I decided to test their IP cameras and NVRs.

I don't like the NVRs sometimes they work, sometimes no. But the cameras are working ok (dome and bullet types). I chose the ones with varifocal lenses 2.8-12mm, WDR, IR and POE (dome US$ 55.00 and bullet US$ 62.00).

We use NUUO as the VMS and they work fine with it. I compare the quality with the Wisenet III from Samsung and if Samsung image quality is 9, the Longse models are an 8. Also I don't know why but they have less lantency than the Samsung models.

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John Honovich

In reply to Carlos Espinoza

IPVM

"I compare the quality with the Wisenet III from Samsung and if Samsung image quality is 9, the Longse models are an 8."

WiseNet III has some of the best WDR and low light (non-IR) on the market. You are claiming that Longse is nearly the same in WDR and low light (non-IR) as WiseNet III?

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

So Austin Powers is lecturing on ONVIF, not kidding.

Wow, they have been pushing this Austin Powers thing for a couple years now, in multiple media formats, and now live?

What do you think the cost is for usage rights to the name and likeness?

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Keefe Lovgren

IPVMU Certified

Does onvif expect anyone to take their seminar seriously? Seems more like a comedy act. Then again maybe that works.

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Luke McKay

Hey John just a quick suggestion for the videos.. Can you guys kill the camera on wheels shots? Maybe get a DJI Ronin or a simple stabilizer http://www.adorama.com/FPSTAB5.html ... Just saying, it kind of becomes nauseating after a few mins of watching.

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified

In reply to Luke McKay

Just saying, it kind of becomes nauseating after a few mins of watching.

Personally I was sickened by thinking what else one could do with $200,000.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

Those Free Milestone Huskys are really starting to pile up. I snapped this pic on the way to the show this morning. I hope he can trade some of them for beer

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Chris Dearing

IPVMU Certified

The floor is abuzz with the news of the new Husky II - Mall Cop II cross promotion, featuring the iconic Paul Blart rhetorically asking "Who you calling Husky?"

Reportedly, Blart nearly walked on the deal because he initially felt the Husky NVR was "too wimpy" and was nowhere near as beefy as himself. Milestone caved and quickly launched a beefed up lineup.

Additionally, it was revealed that the maligned Husky coupons, when redeemed, are good for 2 tickets to the Friday premiere. Conspicuous product placement during the command center scenes of the film itself should ensure Husky becomes a household word, and will be forever associated with corpulent cop.

[Note: This was satire. Do not attempt to use coupons as theater tickets]

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Nils Petterson

anyone have experience with the equipment from KTNC USA booth 24109

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John Heins

Hi Do you have also something positive. I read only negative things. Regards John from Poseidon Netherlands

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John Honovich