ISC West 2015 Show Full Report

Author: IPVM Team, Published on Apr 14, 2015

The IPVM team spent 3 days on the show floor going through what is new and what manufacturers are pitching.

Plus, we have been taking video throughout the show floor. Here is a look at the show entrance:

Inside, we have a whole show floor walk through (1 hour) and booth videos of 30 manufacturers, including Axis, Avigilon, Hikvision, Genetec, Milestone, Sony and many more.

Plus we have images, videos and commentary for a number of key themes:

  • H.265 at ISC West
  • Avigilon VIP Women
  • Why ONVIF, Why?
  • The Milestone Coupon Even Worse
  • $200,000 Wasted
  • A real 'micro' camera
  • Avigilon 7K On Display
  • Axis 33MP on Display
  • The Axis Wet Dog Feature
  • Canon and Milestone Happy Together
  • Taking Shots at Milestone
  • Axis is an Elephant
  • Seriously... Buy Canon Cameras
  • Cisco Snores
  • 'Breakthrough' in Price
  • The Montreal Philosopher is Back
  • Look at our Cheap Looking Cameras
  • Hey Caveman, Buy From Me
  • Avigilon - Text Only Please
  • Google is Here
  • Mirror Image

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Comments (63)

Ross Vanderklok

IPVMU Certified | 04/15/15 01:53am

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| 04/15/15 02:08am

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IPVMU Certified | 04/15/15 02:13am

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified / IPVM Admin | 04/15/15 02:18am

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Ethan Ace

IPVM Admin | In reply to Brian Rhodes | 04/15/15 02:27am

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Matt Transue

IPVM Admin | In reply to Ethan Ace | 04/15/15 03:03pm

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IPVMU Certified | In reply to Brian Rhodes | 04/15/15 02:32am

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IPVM Admin | In reply to Undisclosed 2 | 04/16/15 09:19pm

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Undisclosed 2

In reply to John Honovich | 04/16/15 09:45pm

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Undisclosed 2

| 04/15/15 06:06am

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Undisclosed 3 Manufacturer

In reply to Undisclosed 2 | 04/15/15 12:28pm

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Michael Archer

In reply to Undisclosed 2 | 04/16/15 01:48am

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Eric Fleming Bonilha

| 04/15/15 08:03am

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Eric Fleming Bonilha | 04/15/15 08:10am

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Eric Fleming Bonilha

In reply to John Honovich | 04/15/15 08:16am

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In reply to Eric Fleming Bonilha | 04/15/15 08:52am

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Undisclosed 2 | 04/15/15 09:00am

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Undisclosed 2

In reply to John Honovich | 04/15/15 09:13am

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Undisclosed 2

In reply to Undisclosed 2 | 10/23/15 05:19pm

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | 04/15/15 01:29pm

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Undisclosed 4 Manufacturer

| 04/15/15 02:44pm

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Hal Bennick

| 04/15/15 02:48pm

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Hal Bennick | 04/15/15 02:50pm

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Undisclosed 1

In reply to Luis Carmona | 04/15/15 02:58pm

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Hal Bennick

In reply to Luis Carmona | 04/15/15 03:18pm

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Hal Bennick | 04/15/15 03:20pm

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to Hal Bennick | 04/15/15 03:00pm

***, ****'* **** **** ******* *****. **** ****.

Undisclosed 2

| 04/15/15 04:27pm

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Steve Mitchell

| 04/15/15 05:47pm

******* ****** ****** ***** *** ** ***** ** ********* * camera/VMS.

Undisclosed 2

| 04/15/15 06:39pm

******* **********

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Undisclosed 2 | 04/15/15 07:00pm

* ** ******** * ***** **** ***** ***** **** ** at *** **** ***** ********...

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to John Honovich | 04/15/15 07:01pm

**, ****, * ***** **** ***.

Hal Bennick

In reply to John Honovich | 04/15/15 07:05pm

* ***** * *** *** ****** **** ** *** **** guys ** *******....

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | 04/15/15 07:25pm

*** ****** ** *****:

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to John Honovich | 04/15/15 07:26pm

****'* ******** * ****** ***** ******. * ****** *** *** of ***** *** ** ******.

Undisclosed 2

In reply to John Honovich | 04/15/15 07:48pm

***** ** ** ****** */*.* ** *****. ****** * ******* attack.

Undisclosed 5 End User

| 04/15/15 07:36pm

*** **** **** ****

Sean Patton

| 04/15/15 07:58pm

"******, **'* ***** *** *** ****** *** * ********* *** lower ****** ******* ** *** ****** * '************'." ***** **** price **** *** ******** ********* ** ***** ****** ******* ** any ***...

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Sean Patton | 04/15/15 09:50pm

"***** **** ***** **** *** ******** ********* ** ***** ****** margins ** *** ***..."

**** *** *** ******** **** **** **** *********** **** ********* that ******* **** ** ******** ******* ******* *** ***** *****.

* ** *** ******* ******* ******* *** **** ******* **** significantly **** ********* **** **** ** ****, **** ** *********.

Sean Patton

In reply to John Honovich | 04/16/15 02:22pm

**, * ***** ******** ***** ***** *******, **** ****** ****** into *** **********'* ******* ** *** ** * ** *********.

**** *** *********** *********** ** *** **** ****actual ****** ******* at a higher ****** **********, with a lower **** ***** to the customer vs some of the other big name manufacturers.

* **** *** ******** ********* ** * ******* ** ****** money *** ** *** **********'* ******.

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Sean Patton | 04/16/15 02:53pm

**, *** **.

***, * ***** **** *** ********** **** ***** ********** ** the ***** ****, ***** ******* / **** ********** *********** **** advantage.

*** ******* ** ********* ** *** **** ****, **** ************* match *** *** ***** ****** ***** ****.

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Dale Coulthard

IPVMU Certified | 04/15/15 09:50pm

** *** ******** ***** *** - ************ *** ****** ***-******. Did **** ****** ** *** **** **** *** ***** **** production *** ****** (*** **** **** ******)?

Brandon De Libro

In reply to Dale Coulthard | 04/15/15 10:32pm

* **** *** * ***** ** $**.** **** ** * for ***.** ***-***** **** ** ****** - **** * $**.** MSRP ***** ** ** ******.

Hal Bennick

In reply to Brandon De Libro | 04/15/15 10:55pm

***** ****'** ***** ****** *** *******....

Undisclosed 6

In reply to Brandon De Libro | 04/16/15 10:29pm

***** ***'** *** ***** ****** ********?

Hal Bennick

In reply to Undisclosed 6 | 04/16/15 10:58pm

** ***** ** **, *** * *** ** *****, **** the **** ** *** **** ******** **** ** ********** *******, not ** *** **.

Michael Miller

In reply to Dale Coulthard | 04/16/15 01:41am

**** **** **** **** ** **** **** * ******* ** announcing ******** **** ******** **** ** ****** *****.

Carlos Espinoza

| 04/16/15 03:30am

*** *** *** *** *** ********* *** ***** **** ***** Dome **** ******? **'* *****, *** ***** ** ** * bargain *** **** **** ***.** *****.

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Carlos Espinoza | 04/16/15 10:18am

******,

* ***'* ***** ****** ** ***. ********************* ** *** ********. **** **** *** ***** ********** **** tactics.

** *** ********* *** ****** *******? *** **** **** **** working *** ***?

Carlos Espinoza

In reply to John Honovich | 04/16/15 05:52pm

* **** *** * ***** ***** ** *** ******* *** worked ****. **** ****** *** * ******* ** **** ***** IP ******* *** ****.

* ***'* **** *** **** ********* **** ****, ********* **. But *** ******* *** ******* ** (**** *** ****** *****). I ***** *** **** **** ********* ****** *.*-****, ***, ** and *** (**** **$ **.** *** ****** **$ **.**).

** *** **** ** *** *** *** **** **** **** with **. * ******* *** ******* **** *** ******* *** from ******* *** ** ******* ***** ******* ** *, *** Longse ****** *** ** *. **** * ***'* **** *** but **** **** **** ******** **** *** ******* ******.

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Carlos Espinoza | 04/16/15 07:34pm

"* ******* *** ******* **** *** ******* *** **** ******* and ** ******* ***** ******* ** *, *** ****** ****** are ** *."

******* ****** **** ** *** **** *** *** *** ***** (***-**) on *** ******. *** *** ******** **** ****** ** ****** the **** ** *** *** *** ***** (***-**) ** ******* III?

Undisclosed 2

| 04/16/15 04:19am

** ****** ****** ** ********* ** *****, *** *******.

***, **** **** **** ******* **** ****** ****** ***** *** a ****** ***** ***, ** ******** ***** *******, *** *** live?

**** ** *** ***** *** **** ** *** ***** ****** to *** **** *** ********?

Keefe Lovgren

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed 2 | 04/16/15 01:35pm

**** ***** ****** ****** ** **** ***** ******* *********? ***** more **** * ****** ***. **** ***** ***** **** *****.

Luke McKay

| 04/16/15 12:11pm

*** **** **** * ***** ********** *** *** ******.. *** you **** **** *** ****** ** ****** *****? ***** *** a *** ***** ** * ****** ********** ****://***.*******.***/*******.**** ... **** saying, ** **** ** ******* ********** ***** * *** **** of ********.

Undisclosed 2

In reply to Luke McKay | 04/16/15 02:56pm

**** ******, ** **** ** ******* ********** ***** * *** mins ** ********.

********** * *** ******** ** ******** **** **** *** ***** do **** $***,***.

Chris Dearing

IPVMU Certified | 04/17/15 05:26am

*** ***** ** ***** **** *** **** ** *** ******** ** - **** *** ******* *********, ********* *** ********** ***************** ****** "*** *** ******* *****?"

**********, ***** ****** ****** ** *** **** ******* ** ********* felt ******** ****** "*** *****" *** *** ******* **** ** ***** ** himself. ********* ***** *** ******* ******** ******* ** ******.

************, ** *** ******** **** *** ********************, **** ********, *** **** *** * ******* ** ********* ********. *********** ******* ********* ****** *** ******* ****** ****** ** the **** ****** ****** ****************** * ********* ****, *** **** ** ******* ********** **** corpulent ***.

[****: **** *** ******. ** *** ******* ** *** ******* as ******* *******]

Nils Petterson

| 04/17/15 03:46pm

****** **** ********** **** *** ********* **** **** *** ***** 24109

John Heins

| 04/17/15 08:39pm
** ** *** **** **** ********* ********. * **** **** negative ******. ******* **** **** ******** ***********

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to John Heins | 04/17/15 08:45pm

****, ** **** **** **** * ***** ** ****** *****, that's '*******' ***** ** *** ****. ** **** * ****** of*.*** ** *** ****. ** **** **** **** * ******** ******* ************** ** *** ****.

** *** **** ********* ********, **** **** ** ***.

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Rian Schermerhorn

| 04/20/15 07:58pm

*** **** **'* *** ****, *'* ******* **** ********* **** "trends" * ********** ***** **** *** ******* "******, *******, ******, smaller" **** ** **** ** *** ** ***** *****. *'* all *** ********* ** ****'* ******* *** *****, *** **** anyone **** **** ***** *** ****** **** *** ********** ** display *** ***** **** ***** ******** ******* *** ****** ** a *** ***? * ** *** ******** *************...*'* ********* **** to **** **** ******** ****. **** ****, ********* ********* *** more **** *******.

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Rian Schermerhorn | 04/20/15 09:06pm

**** ** *** ******** '******* *** ****** ** * *** way'? ****** ** **********, **** ****** ****** **** ******.

**** ****, *** *** *** *** ****** **** ****** ** and ** **.

*** **** *** ****, *** *** *** *** ****** **** widespread *****-******* *** ***** ********* *********.

Bob Damrau

| 05/02/15 05:27pm

***** ** "******* *** ****" **** *** **** ** *** three ******, * ***** ******* ****** ******** ********* ***** ** specific ******** *********** ********. ****** ********* ******** ****** ****** *** sea ** ******** *** ************* ***********.

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