IR Camera Reflection Test

Published Oct 17, 2016 13:26 PM

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Comments (12)
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Sarunas Pavilionis
Oct 17, 2016

That's clear, but, another problem in dome cameras, is reflection from dusty dome outside surface. And, when we clean this surface, after some time scratches appears on surface, and reflection effect becomes permanent....

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David Johnson
Oct 17, 2016

We never use IR dome style cameras outside anymore because of this. Our high salt tropical atmosphere starts degrading the image from day one. Turret style with separately located IR led and Lens are way more effective. If the really high end smart features are required we use a discrete IR device ( and charge for it!)

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Dan Clinton
Oct 20, 2016

https://ipvm.com/forums/video-surveillance/topics/ir-shield-technology-clinton-claims-to-overcome-rain-or-dust

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Sarunas Pavilionis
Oct 17, 2016

Another, appearing at any camera with integrated IR (even, when separated glasses are used for camera and IR) issue:

Also, big problem appears at high snow.

Separate IR lighting, placed at about 0.5m below camera - more times better solution, if you want good night time image.

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Matt Ion
Oct 17, 2016

That rubber ring on the Axis P3225 is a bit of an annoyance, because it's so stiff, if you don't put the dome on exactly straight, it can push the camera's aim out of place.

One other thing I've noticed with some cameras is, over time, the gasket itself can leave a permanent mark on the bubble, which can then affect the image if you ever have to re-align/re-aim the camera.

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Jeff Gack
Oct 18, 2016
IPVMU Certified

I have switched to turret and bullet after contending with all the issues with domes that you guys have mentioned.

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Simon Barnes
Oct 18, 2016

I've also used turret a lot to deal with this.

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Undisclosed #1
Oct 18, 2016
IPVMU Certified

Even with this ring though, you can still get some IR reflection from the light going sideways thru the glass and then bouncing off of dust or moisture on the surface.

Older bullet cameras used to have a similar ring to these domes, but now are usually thru-the-glass rings for this reason:

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Frédéric Desplanches
Oct 20, 2016

We had at a period a big problem of IR reflection with dividers. The supplier has solved the problem by changing the plastic cover by another one which had been treated to herden the plastic (I don't know exactly how...). It's the supplier of the plastic dome that has done this special treatment.

And the result was good.

To avoid this problem, I prefer to use "ball cameras, like this model:

Ball camera

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Ethan Ace
Oct 23, 2016

Note to all, based on findings from this test and reader comments, we plan to do some testing of dust/dirt/scratch impact on IR image quality to show those specific effects.

I believe we also have a test on IR cameras in snow which I can't honestly remember the title of... but I have images from it, and yes, integrated IR when snowing obscures a lot of the FOV:

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Undisclosed #1
Oct 24, 2016
IPVMU Certified

I believe we also have a test on IR cameras in the snow...

Yes, there was a report from Jan 28, 2015 called

Testing Integrated IR Cameras In Snow

it started like

'Snowmaggedon 2015' gave us an oppportunity to test cameras in heavy snow conditions.

Integrated IR has gained in popularity, improving low light images even in low cost cameras. However, is it right in all conditions? Can these cameras' integrated illuminators actually reduce visibility under some conditions?

Cameras were tested in this FOV, shown here during the day. Outdoor lighting at night is dim, about 0.5-0.8 lux.

We tested IR bullets during heavy snow to see what impact, if any, IR illumination had on visibility, motion recording, and bandwidth.

But it is currently not found thru search.

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Ethan Ace
Oct 24, 2016

That's the one. Odd that it's disappeared. We'll remedy that.