IPVM has added a novel feature that rewards members whom other members vote for with IPVM membership credits.
Our first payout covers the past 3 months, paying out $800+ USD. 140 members received payouts, with a high of $26.95.
Since we are just announcing this now, and since we plan to promote this heavily this year, we expect payouts for 2015 to be, at least, 2 to 3x higher. Our goal is that valuable commenters get at least $100 credits annually.
Update 2016: We are now paying $2,000+ per quarter. 14 members are on pace to get $100+ per year, another 20 members $40+ per year.
Voting Key Points
Here's how it works. Any member can vote on the comments submitted by other members. At the bottom of each comment, there is a series of options, simply click as appropriate. Here is an example of the voting options:
Here are some best practices on voting:
- If you already know what that commenter is posting and think it is valuable, choose 'agree'. If you did not know it, but you learned something, choose 'informative'.
- Use 'unhelpful' when the comment is off topic / unrelated to what is being discussed.
- You cannot vote for your own comments nor can you agree and disagree on the same comment.
Vote For Your Colleagues
You should vote for your colleagues as not only does it recognize their contributions, each of your votes effectively 'pays' / 'rewards' those members with membership credits.
How the Payout Works
Each 'agree', 'informative' or 'funny' counts as 1 vote each. Each 'unhelpful' is -1 votes. Disagree is neutral as we do not want to penalize members for saying something that others may disagree.
The net number of votes is used to credit member. Each vote is worth 35 cents, so a member with 10 net votes, would get a $3.50 member credit, one with 100 net votes would get $35 member credit, etc.
Pay Every Quarter
Every 90 days, IPVM will do an automatic payout, sending emails to each member and crediting their IPVM accounts.
Make Sure to Vote - Make Us Pay!
We expect our payouts to double or more as we promote this new feature and more members get used to voting. So go ahead and vote!
We have paid out over $6,000 already and are paying $1,500+ per quarter now.
Very cool - I like that you aren't issuing credits just based on quantity of comments. I think we can all imagine how that would go..
Each 'unhelpful' is -1 votes, each vote is worth 35 cents...
Do you want a card number, or do you want to just roll the balance over into the next voting period? ;)
IPVMU Certified | 01/06/15 08:56am
Let's hope I can keep up with informative, funny and agree votes as I don't want to have to pay out for any unhelpfuls. And don't vote unhelpful on this comment trying to be funny! : )
Being a smaller integrator (don't call me a trunk slammer!), these credits are very valuable to me. It helps keep my cost of access down to the best resource I have found. Could I afford to pay for IPVM? Sure. Is it better to contribute and defray the cost? Absolutely!!
IPVMU Certified | 01/06/15 09:47am
I have 2 questions:
1. Will credits be given when a person posts as undisclosed?
2. Will credits be given on votes casted during a quarter regardless of when the comment was made or is it only on your comments for a given quarter?
Wow! "You like me, you really like me!"
"I'd like to thank the Academy, my cast and crew, my agent, my makeup artist, my fellow nominees..."
No wait - that is my Academy Award speech.....
This is nice. IPVM paid for my Starbucks this week :)
IPVMU Certified | 01/07/15 08:26am
Are there plans to add the commenting system to the mobile version of the site? When viewing on my phone, I tend to choose to view the full site even though I must pinch and zoom. I have also found that the full site runs better on my phone than the mobile version.
I dint see the options... Maybe it's not available for mobile or only some articles???
Ok, I will stick out my neck and say I do not see any value to this for a paid subscription type forum or web site. Please look at this as positive feedback as I have been very satisfied with the forum and website to date.
At my age, and having been in the security industry for a long time, this jumps out at me as a red flag. An incentive to participate on a paid forum just seems odd. This would have played a large factor on my decision to subscribe because I spent a lot of time vetting the site, prior to subscription, looking at the potential downside. I am not saying it should be a factor, only that it would have been a factor in looking for a professional site.
I don't think that an incentive to comment portrays a very professional image either. Discussions and comments should be driven by the quality of the content.
The first thing that jumped out at me was this is a marketing technique to drive up subscribers and thus advertisers, and causing a negative effect on the quality of the content by attracting unknowledgable contributors. Why not give the incentive back to subscribers in the form of a rebate on their fees?
Just my initial reaction and thoughts.
I just join IPVM and I am thrilled with this new features.
Once joined, I looked through the Articles and Discussions to find answers for my current situations and problems.
But some content lacked responses from the community.I believe with this, there will be more constructive information from the ground for me as people will see the incentives to help others with their expentise and knowledge.
Keep up the good job! :)
Do you know offhand were there more voters or votees?
Update: Commenting and voting is way up in the last 10 days.
Voting is easily up 100%. We had in the range of ~4000 votes for first three months. On the current pace, it should be over 10,000. I am glad to see that, hope it encourage more participation and rewards more members.
IPVMU Certified | 02/06/15 03:02pm
John, a suggestion in light of the 20 some unhelpful votes given in the space of just a few underlying comments and one underlying issue, in the 'what to test' thread.
Similar to other voting sites, perhaps we should change the system, at some future point, so as to tax a non-admin voting 'unhelpful' with the smallest but non-zero ding to their own total. This is not done to discourage the voting, rather just to cause some reflection upon it, and thereby reduce the retaliatory systematic down voting of multiple comments that can ensue.
More importantly, this actually strengthens the power of the 'unhelpful' since it accords the weight of 'I felt compelled to express this' to any 'unhelpful' vote that one does see.
Just a thought.
Update: quarterly payment just went out - total paid $1500, up nearly 100% from the previous quarter.
Top commenter - Chris Dearing with over $100 paid out.
More details to come in a post this week.
This is a fantastic way to keep people coming back to the site and keeping the conversations moving. Thanks!
We just sent our payments for Q2 2016 comments - over $2,000 total. Nice work everyone!
We just sent our payments for Q3 2016 comments - again over $2,000 total. Nice work everyone!
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