Insights From a Dummy Camera Manufacturer

Author: Carlton Purvis, Published on Sep 18, 2013

Dummy cameras. It seems like most people think they are, well, dumb. But it is hard to ignore the impact they have on the security industry with people routinely asking about using them and many deploying them.

We recently interviewed the manufacturer of the #3 overall surveillance camera sold on Amazon, a dummy camera from UniquExceptional that has over 500+ reviews, averaging nearly a perfect 5 stars. Company founder and president Don Shoemaker explained the growth in dummy camera sales, core drivers and key issues such as:

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Comments (43)

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified / IPVM Admin | 09/18/13 01:16pm

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Undisclosed 1 Integrator

| 09/18/13 01:33pm

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Tom Bragg

In reply to Undisclosed 1 Integrator | 09/20/13 12:22am

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Tom Bragg | 09/20/13 01:03am

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Undisclosed 1 Integrator

In reply to John Honovich | 09/20/13 12:44pm

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Marty Major

| 09/18/13 04:00pm

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R Kathirvel Murugan

In reply to Marty Major | 09/18/13 05:18pm

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Scot MacTaggart

In reply to Marty Major | 09/21/13 01:57pm

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In reply to Marty Major | 09/29/13 03:50pm

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Paresh Desai

| 09/19/13 05:25pm

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Carlton Purvis

| 09/19/13 11:57pm

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Tom Bragg

| 09/20/13 12:24am

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Tom Bragg | 09/20/13 12:52am

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Tom Bragg

In reply to John Honovich | 09/20/13 01:08am

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Tom Bragg | 09/20/13 01:22am

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Tom Sharples

| 09/20/13 03:54am

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Chris Dearing

In reply to Tom Sharples | 10/01/13 02:13am

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Matt Ion

In reply to Chris Dearing | 10/01/13 03:19am

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Chris Dearing

In reply to Matt Ion | 10/01/13 05:05pm

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Tom Bragg

| 09/20/13 12:23pm

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Marty Major

| 09/20/13 03:26pm

**** ****** *** ******** ** #*- ********** *** ****** *** ***** *** ******* ** ***.... :)

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Marty Major | 09/20/13 03:31pm

***** *** **** *******! :)

*********, ******, ** **********. **** ******* *** ********* **** **** week, ** *** ** #*, ** ********* ******* ** #* a *** **** *** *** *** ** **** ** #*.

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Marty Major

| 09/20/13 08:41pm

*** ******** **** ******* ** **: "*** ** ***** ** many ******* ** **** ********** ***** ******?"

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* ******* *** ***+ ******* ** **** ****** ** ***** and ******:

**** ******* ***** ****** *** ** ***** *** ****.... **'* been ** ****** *** ******. ** **'* ***** * ******, it ******** * ***** ** ** *******, *** ** *** end ** **** *** ***** ** ** *******. ** **** 2012, **** *** ***** **** ** **** ******* *** * total ** ** ******* ** **'* ***** ** ******.

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*** ** *** ***+ ******* *** **** ****** **** **** generated ** *** **** * ****** - ***** ** ****** been ********* ** ****** *** ~** ******.

***** ** **** ****** ****** ***** *** *************** ** '******** reviews'. ********* ******* ***** *** **** **** *** ********* ** try *** '****' **** ******. *** ** ***** **** (******* others) ** ** ************** ****** *** '**** ** ****** *****'*** *** **** ** **** *** **** **** ***** ******* if **/*** ***** ****** ******* ******** *** * ******.

****: *** ******* * ****** ** ************** *** '****** ******** ********' ***** ******* **** *** ****** was **** ******* *** ******** ********* *** **** ****'* ***** reviewed ** ******. *******, *** *'* *** ****** ** '***' done, *** ****** **** ** '*****' ** ****; * ******* to ****** *** ******** ***** ***** ****** ** ********* (******* the ******* ** ******** ******** ** ***) ***** **** * lower ******** ****, *** ** ***** ***** ******** *******. ****** who ******* ***** *** **** **** ****** ****** **** * positive ****** - ** ** **** ******** ****.

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*** **** ***** ** ****** ********* **** * ***** **** was**** ***. **** **** ******** ** *** **** ** ******'* *** 1000 ********* *** *** ********* **** *** ** ****. **'* a **** ******, *** * **** ****.

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*. ************ ** **** ******** -**% ** *** *********** ****** ***** **** **** ***** ** other ********** ****** ** **********, ******* *** *** ****. **** ** an ********* ******* ******* ** ***** **** ****** *** ********* do ******* **** **** ** ****** **** ******, ******* *****, for ***** *********.

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*. **% *** ****; **% ******

*. *** * ***********: ****** (**.**%), ******** (**.**%), ******* (**.**%) and ******** (*.**%)

**, ******** ***-****** *** *** *** *********** ** *** ******* buying ***** ** *** ********** (* **** **** *****). :)

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**** ** *** ****** ** ********. ** ** ****** *** given **** **** ****** ** ** ***** ** **** ** the ****** ** **'* ****, *** **** ** **** **** likely ******* ** *** ************ ** ******* ******* *** * security ****** **** **** ****** * ******** ******, **** ****** generating **** ** ******* *** **** **** **** ********** ******* onto *** '**** **' *****....********** ** ***** ** ** ***** ******* ******* **** **** as **** ***** *******.

**, *** *** *** **** ** * ****** ** ********* (person **** ***** ******, ***** ******** **** **/*** *****/****'* ****) vs *** '******* ******/********' (****** ******** ****** ** **** ** exchange *** ******)? *** ***'* ******. ****'* *** ****** ** it. :)

*******, *** *** **** ** *** ****** ******** ** ***** that ******** **** ******. ***** ******* *** ******* **+ ********* products -all ** *** **** **** - be an indicator of a 'tester/reviewer'? I don't really know that either. But here are ten people who rated this camera 5 ***** (within the 'review explosion period') who all appear to review lots of differing/disparate products on the same date:

****,****** *** ********* ** **** ****** ** **'* ***** ** months ** ****** ******* ***** ****** ********.

*** ***** *****. ** *** ***** ** '*** *** ***+ Reviews' *** **** ** '**** *******' (*** *******), ****** **** it ** ******* **** **** '*******' *******from ****. Also, note the very high 'likability quotient' of these early, 'helpful' reviews (i.e. large percentage of total 'read' reviews saying it was 'helpful'). ******** ****** *** ****** '****** ********* ******' *** **** ** many ***** '*****').

***** ** ***** ** *** *********** ** ******* ** *****, even **** *** ******* **** *** **** '*******', **** ****'* sell *** **** ** **** ******. ** *** ********* ** recent ******* ***'* ****** ** ** ******* ** *** - at ***** ** *** ****** ******** ** ****** **** ****** that **...

***** ** * *****. * ** ** ******, *** ** I *********** ******** ** *** **** ** *** *****.

*'* **** * ******* **** *** *** **** **** ** my ***** **** *****... :)

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Marty Major | 09/20/13 09:54pm

*** ******** **** ******* ** **: "*** ** ***** ** many ******* ** **** ********** ***** ******?"

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"*'* *** ****** ** '***' ****, *** ****** **** ** 'could' ** ****; * ******* ** ****** *** ******** ***** after ****** ** ********* (******* *** ******* ** ******** ******** or ***)"

*********, ** *** **** ** ******** *** ****** **** ** smear *** *******. ****** ****.

"*** **** *** *** ****** *** ***** **** ******5 ***** (within the 'review explosion period') who all appear to review lots of differing/disparate products on the same date:"

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"****** **** ** ** ******* **** **** '*******' *******from ****."

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Marty Major

In reply to John Honovich | 09/20/13 11:24pm

*'* *** ********** ** '*****' ********. ***** ** ** *** for ** ** ** **. ** ********, * **** **** questions **** *******.

** ******** ****************** ** **** ******* ** **** ******* *** ********* **** comment **** '** ***** ** ******* ** ******* *** ******* as *****.'

**** **. *****, * ******** **** **** *********. ****, * like ***** *******. :)

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***** *** ****, **** ******** **** ***** ** '****' ********* with ******* *** * **** *** (*** ~$**/**) - ********* ****. ******** ******** **** ***Amazon ******** ********* reviews for a larger fee.

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*** **** ******* ***** ****** (** ***** *******) *****'* **** crack *** - **** **** * ** * ******** ***** to ***. ***?

**** ** **** ******* ***** ** ***** ******* *** ******** at ******** ***** ** *** **** ** ******* *** **** one ******. ***?

*** **** ** **** ******* ******* **** ******** ** * recent, ***** ****** ** **** **** *** **** ** **** camera ***** **** ** ******. ***?

***** *** *** ********* * *** *** ********* ******.

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Marty Major | 09/21/13 12:33am

****'* *** #* *** #* ***** ****** **** ** ****:

*** #* ****** ***** *** **** ********* **** #* *** costs **** $* ****. **'* *** ********** ** ******* **** people ***** ** ***** ** ***** $* **** ** *** a ****** **** ****** ****, ** ***** **** ******.

*** ** **** *******, *** #* ******* ***** * *** more **** *** #* ******* *** ***** ****** ** *** a *** **** *******.

***** **'* * ****** ***** ******? ***** ****** ******** **** it ******? * ***** ****'* ****** ********** *** ***.

*** ***** *** **** * ******** **** ******** ******* *** reviews ****** ***** **********, *** ****'* *** ****** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | 09/21/13 03:55am

*** *****'* ***** (*** ******** **** ****) ***** ****** ******** is **.

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Joshua Herron

| 09/21/13 02:22pm

*** *** **** **** ** ***** ***** ******* * **** hundreds ** **** ******* **** **** ***'* **** ** ***'* work **** *** ****. ***** ** ****** ***** * **** camera **** *** *********** ***** ****? **** **** ****** ***** the *********** ********* *** * ****.

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Marty Major

| 09/21/13 08:32pm

*****....

**** **** ****** ********** *** ** **** *****.

*************, ** *** ** ***** **** **** ** ***** **** site (*** **** ********* ** ***** ****** ****), ***** ***** item***'******?

*** ******* ** - ** '******* ****, ***** ******** ****** **** ******** ***** (******)' - *************** ** ******!

*** ************ *****?

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Marty Major | 09/21/13 08:35pm

(*) * *** *** ***** ****.

(*) **'* ** ************ -********* ** ***** *** $**.**.

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Marty Major

In reply to Marty Major | 09/21/13 08:41pm

***** ** ** ******** *******, ***** *** *********** ** *** housing - * ***'* ******* ** ** *** **** ****** just ** ******* *****.

*******, **** ******************* ********* - ******* **** , ***** ******** ****** **** Blinking ***** (*****)** ****** ** ***** ****** **** *** - ** *******.

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Marty Major

| 09/21/13 08:51pm

****'* ******* ****-******: ***** #*/#* ****-******* ****** ** ****** ***'* even ****** ** **** ********** **** ****!

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Marty Major | 09/21/13 09:44pm

***, ***'** *****! ****'* ****** **********!

****... ****????

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Marty Major

In reply to John Honovich | 09/21/13 09:49pm

** **** ********** ****** *** ** *********** ******** ** ***** dummy ******* - ** *** ****** ******* *** ******** ** lead ** ** ******* - ******'* ** **** ****** ** see ******** ** **** '****** **** ***** ******' ************** ****** ***?

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Marty Major | 09/21/13 09:52pm

*** ****** ********** ****** ** **** *** ***** ************ ********** some **** ** ********* *** ******, ******* ****** ******** **** more *******, ******* ** **** **** *******, ****** **** * phony ****** ******** **** ****** *** ****** **.

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Marty Major

In reply to John Honovich | 09/21/13 10:07pm

*** **** ****** (**** **************** ****) ******,***********.

*** **** ****** (** **** ** ***) ******,***********.

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Marty Major | 09/21/13 10:10pm

** * ** **** ***. *** *** ***** *********** ******* *** ****? ** **** *** ***** ** ** that ***** *** *** *** ******** ********* ****?

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Marty Major

In reply to John Honovich | 09/21/13 10:32pm

** *******: *'* *** ******** ******** ***** ***** ***'* ********************** ****** *** ****** ** ******* ** *** ****** ****** community**** *** **** * ******.

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified / IPVM Admin | In reply to Marty Major | 09/21/13 10:55pm

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Marty Major

In reply to Brian Rhodes | 09/21/13 11:06pm

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| 09/21/13 10:28pm

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