Hikvision Bets Against H.265

Author: Brian Karas, Published on Jun 07, 2016

H.265 is a "solution in search of a problem", according to Hikvision.

In this report we analyze Hikvision's commentary explaining the tradeoffs between H.265, H.264 and smart codecs, looking at what the best codec will be in the future.

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******, ** *********'* *** ******, **** *********** *** ****:

** ** ****** ***** ***, *** ********** *** ************ ************, H.265’s *********** ************ *** *** ***** *** ***% *********** ** claimed **** *.*** ** ** ****** *********** ********.

Hikvision's **********

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Ambarella **** **********

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Hikvision's ****** ***** *** *.***+

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** **** ***, **** ********* ******* ********* *.***+ *** *********** H.265, ** ***** **** **** ************* ****** *** ********** ** market ************ *** **** ******** ***** ************* ** ***** ** H.265 *** ******* ***** *** ***** *.***.

******, ****, *** **** ************ **** ******* ********* ******* *****, has **** ***** * ******* *** ***** ***** ****** (********* **** *********) *** ******** ******* ** *.***.

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Comments (24)

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Eric Fleming Bonilha

| 06/07/16 02:28pm

* **** ****** ***** ********** **** * ****** ****** **** not *********** ***** ******... *.***, *****... ****** *** ****** ******* and ****** ****** ** ** ******...

Undisclosed 1

| 06/07/16 03:38pm

Patent ******

*.*** ** ***** ** ****** "* **** ****** ****** ****", though ** ********* *** *****. ***** ***** ****** ***** *** not ******** **** ** *** ***-****, **** *** **** ** the **** ** ********* ******* ****.

** ***** **** **** *** ******* ***** ***** ****** ****. they ****, **** **** ** **** **** ***** *** *********** it ***** * *** **** *** **** ***** ******** ***** the ******** *** ***** ******* *** *** ***** * ********* name.

* **** *** **** **** **** ** **** **** ******* horsepower ** ****** *** ***'* ** **** ******* *** **** reason ***** ** **** **** **** ****

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Undisclosed 1 | 06/07/16 03:51pm

** ***** **** **** *** ******* ***** ***** ****** ****

****:********* *** *********** **** ********** ****** ******* *********.

Undisclosed 4 Manufacturer

In reply to John Honovich | 06/08/16 06:17pm

*** (***** ******* ***********) **** ***** *** ******* ** **** by *** *****, ** *** **** **** ** ******** **** the *** *****.

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Jon Dillabaugh

In reply to Undisclosed 1 | 06/08/16 10:02am

**** **** **** * ***** *** ******** **** ****** **** can ** ********. *** *** ***'* ******* *** ***** ****.

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John Bazyk

IPVMU Certified | 06/07/16 04:09pm

*** ***** *** ******** ***** *** *** ** *** ********** and ******** ** **** *** ****** ***********. * ****** *********** in ******** ********** ** ****** * ***** *******, **** ******** new ******** **** ***** *** **** **** ******. ** *** using ********** *.***+ **** ********* ********* *** ** ******** *** have **** ***** *******. **** ** * ***** **** ***.

Undisclosed 2

| 06/07/16 05:30pm

*.*** ** * "******** ** ****** ** * *******", ********* to *********.

**** ********* ** ****** **** ********* ** **** ******, **** your ****.

******* ********** ** *** **** ****** *.***+ ** **** *.***, they *** **** ****** ** ***** ***same *********** *******, namely more efficient compression.

********, ****'** *** ************ ************. **** *** ****-******** **** **** smart ****** *** *.*** **complimentary ************, as indicated here:

*** ****** ******* ** ***** ***** *** **** ** * bit ******* ** *** *************...

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Undisclosed 2 | 06/07/16 05:57pm

**** ********* ** ****** **** ********* ** **** ******, **** your ****.

** ** ***** ** * **** ****** ** *****. *** it **** ********* ********* *** ******* ********** ********* ***** *.***.

* ***** ******** ******** **** *.*** *** * ******** **** aimed ** ***** * *******. *** **** ***** **** ********* is ******* *** ** **** * ****** ******** **** ***** that *** ********* ** ****** *.*** *** **** ****** ******* in *** ********.

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Eric Fleming Bonilha

In reply to John Honovich | 06/07/16 05:59pm

****

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Eric Fleming Bonilha

In reply to Eric Fleming Bonilha | 06/07/16 07:51pm

*** * **** ** ******* ******* **** *** ******** ********** is **** ** ** *** *** ********** ** *.*** ********...

********* *** **** **** ******* ** ********...

Undisclosed 3 Integrator

In reply to Eric Fleming Bonilha | 06/07/16 09:31pm
*****, **** ** ****** *********** ** **** ********* *.***. ** it **** *** ********* ** **** *** $.** ** ************ costs *** ****** ****'* ***** *** ***, *** ** ** requires *** ************ ** **** $*** **** **** *** *** chipset ** ****** **, **** ** *** ************ * **** trade. *** ***** ** ** **** **** ***** **** *** from **** **** *** ** * ****** ***********... ****** * am **** ***** ***** **** **.

Undisclosed 2

In reply to Undisclosed 3 Integrator | 06/07/16 10:11pm

****** *** **** **** ***** *** ******** ***** * ******* h.265 **** ** *** $*** ***** ***** ** ***********.

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Ethan Ace

IPVM Admin | In reply to Eric Fleming Bonilha | 06/08/16 01:14am

***, ** ****** ** **** ******* *** ******* ******* ** our*.*** ** ******* ****.

**'* * ***** ********** **** ******** *** ***, *** ****** bitrate ******* *** *********** ****** ** ****. ****'* *** ***** CPU **** ******* **** **** ******:

*** *** ******* ******* (~* **/* *** *****), *.*** ******** was ******** **** ********* ********* **** *.***, **** ** *** and **** *** ***. **** *** **** **** ******* **** a ****** ****** ** **** ** ******** ************ *******. ***** measurements **** ***** ******* ******* *****, ****** ****** ********* ****** ******* ******:

*******, **** ******** ****** ** ***** ** ****** ** *** H.265 *******, *** ***** ****** *************, **** *.*** **** **** doubling *.*** ********* ***** ** * **** *** ** **** dedicated ***** ****. ***** ****** ****** ** ***** ********** ** performance, ** ****** ******** ***** **** **** *** *.*** *** no ****** **** *.*** ********.

***** ** *** ****:

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  • **** *** **: ***** **** **** **** ** *.* ***, 16 ** ***, *** ******* ** **** ********

Undisclosed 5 Manufacturer

In reply to Ethan Ace | 06/13/16 05:11pm

* ***** **'* ********* ** **** **** **** **** (****** much *** ***** *** *** ***'*) **** ********* ******** *** decoding ****, ***** ***** ** **** ********* ** ******. ************ the ******** ******** *** **** *** **** ******.

**** ** ******** ***** ** *** *********** ***** ** ***** markets (********** ****** ***), ** ***** **** ** ***** *********** and *********** ** **** ******** **** ** ******** *** ********.

*** *** ****** ** ***** ********** *** ** ********** ** 6months-1years ****, ** ***'* ***** *** **** ***** ** ***** benchmarks *** *******.

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In reply to Undisclosed 5 Manufacturer | 06/13/16 05:27pm

* ***** **'* ********* ** **** **** **** **** (****** much *** ***** *** *** ***'*) **** ********* ******** *** decoding ****, ***** ***** ** **** ********* ** ******.

****, **** ***** ***** *** ******* ******** ** *** ***. Some ***** (*********, *******) *** ******* ** ***** ****.

******** *** ******* *** ********* *** *.*** ****** ******, **** will ********* ******* **** ******** ******** ******* **. **** ** assuming *.*** ******* ** ********** ** *.*** ** *** **** larger ***-************ *******.

Undisclosed 2

In reply to John Honovich | 06/07/16 06:21pm

*** ** **** ********* ********* *** ******* ********** ********* ***** H.265.

** ********* ***, ****** **** **/****** *** ********* *******.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | 06/07/16 07:33pm

**** ****** **** *********......... ****, * **** * **** ***** now!

John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 06/07/16 07:51pm

*****, ** **** :)

** ******* ******* ****, ** *** ****** ************ ******** ***** ***** ******** / technology. *** ******** ****** *** * ********* *****...

Undisclosed 2

| 06/07/16 11:45pm

***** **** ****** ** *** ** ******* ***** *** *** bet. ******* ** *** ******* **** *** ***** *** ******* the ******** **** **** *** *.***, ** * ***** ** more ** *** ******* ******* ****** *** *.*** *** *** top *******:

Marc Pichaud

| 06/12/16 09:29am

**** ** **** **** ***** *****won't ** *** **** *********.... Mass market industry needsmore efficient compressors to bring larger streams to our large 4K TV sets in our homes... No Smart Codec in TV because, to display Avatar from J Cameron it's realy very very bandwidth consuming in IPTV - no still pixels. 4K , 30MP...and more cameras located in very complex and moving areas will also need something better . So now H265 isn't mature, too new.. ok, like *** **** **** ******* in a camera, which improves H264 quality but put *** **** ** **** ** *** ** **** ******

*** ** **** **'* **** ** **** **** **** ** our ***-*** *** **** **** ***, *** **** ******* **** obsviously **** ********* ** **** ***** **** *** ***** *** efficiency ** **** *********. **** *** ******* & ******** ********* will ******** ****** ******* ** ****** ** **** ** *** of *** *** ****** ** ******** ***** , **** **** decide ** *** ********** ** ****** *** **** ********* ** not (** ***** ** ** **** ******* ** **** ** 2017..)

******* ***, **** ****** ******** ****** *** ************ *****, *** security ******* (******** ****, ***, ***, **** ******, ** ****) Right *** ******** ** **** ***** **** **** ***** ***'* realistic.A *** ***** ****** ***'* ****** ** ** **** ...so wait & see...

**** ** **** ** ** **** ******* **** ***** ***** ... ** *** ***** ********* **%.... **** ******** **** ********** and **** (** ****+) *** *** ***** **% ******* ** H264+

** **** *** ***** *ecord * *****, you can now record * *****...and keep H265 only for records and H264 streams for display to save CPU. How much does it cost you to choose right now a H265+/H264+ camera instead of a H264+ camera to prepare the future and eventually migrate later to a full H265 solution is the question ..

*** ***** ******** ** **** , **** ******* **** ****, do ** **** **% ** *** ******* and for which additionnal ***** ** the NVR? John; this could be tested once

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | 06/23/16 06:42pm

** ****'* ***** **** ********* *******************.....? [**********]

Undisclosed 2

In reply to Luis Carmona | 06/23/16 07:13pm

*******. *******, *** ********, **** ** *********. ****** **** ******** both ***** **** ********** ******* **** ********, *'* *******.

**** **** *********** **** ***.*** **** **** *** ******* *****?

Undisclosed 2

| 06/23/16 11:09pm

******, ** *********'* *** ******, **** *********** *** ****:

"** ** ****** ***** ***, *** ********** *** ************ ************, H.265’s *********** ************ *** *** ***** *** ***% *********** ** claimed **** *.*** ** ** ****** *********** ********."

**** *****, ** ***** *** **** **** ***% *******, **** in ********** ****** * ********* *.*** ************ ******. *****, ** *** ***, this ****** ********* ** ** ** * ****, ** ******** unchallenging ********* *****, ******* ****** ** ****** ****.

***** ***** *** ****** *** * ******* **** ***, *** would ****** **** * ********* **** "*** ******* ******* ** 100%", ** ** ***** ** ** ********* ** ***, ***** transform ** **** *** ********* ********** *** *** ******* "*** NOT ******* ******* ** ***%".

******* ****'** **** **** **** **** ******?

Undisclosed 6 Integrator

In reply to Undisclosed 2 | 06/24/16 01:14am

"***** ********* ** **** *** ********* ********** *** *** ******* "May *** ******* ******* ** ***%"."

********* ****: "****! ****? ** **** **** ** *** ** cents * ****** ** *** ****?! *** *** *** *** run **** ** ******* ****** *********** **** ******* *******?! ** cents ** **** * **** ***** *** * ******. ******* course. **** ****** ** *****'* ****!"

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