HID Releases Lower-Cost Signo Readers

By Brian Rhodes, Published on Mar 06, 2020

HID Global is releasing a new line of readers called Signo they claim read farther, are mobile-ready, and automatically adjust for better reads on difficult surfaces.

But are they better than the line they replace, the iClass SE? In this report, we examine HID's claims and share their feedback, including:

Signo's initial 4 reader models, including a new mullion keypad type reader
Comparing pricing for Signo to the existing iClass SE
Why HID's explanation of Signo's longer read distances are confusing
How the 3 new 'Credential Profiles' impact which cards can be used
HID plans for iClass SE?
What Signo's 'Surface Detection Read Optimization' means
What the plans are for RB25F Fingerprint readers
What impact from Signo dropping 'Clock & Data' support

Signo ****** ******

*** **** ***** ***** series *** **** ******* and ****** ******* *** touts '********* ******* *********' to '******** **** ***********' when ******* ** ************* challenging ******** **** ***** siding ** **********.

** ******,***** ******** **** ******:

******* (**): *** ******* sized ***** ******** ~*.*" X *.*" * *.*", with * ***** **** average ** ~** **.
******* **** ****** (***): not ********* ** *** iClass ** ******, *** 20K ** * **** mullion ***** ****** **** a * * * capacitive ******, ******* ** average ** ~** **.
****-***** (**): *** ****-***** unit ******** ~ *.*" X *.*" * *.*" and ***** ** ******* of ~** **.
****-***** **** ****** (***): The ****-***** **** **** a * * * capacitive ****** ***** ~** mA.

Signo ** ***** ***** **** ****** **

*** ** *** ******* differences ** *** ***** series ** ****** **** than ********** ****** ** series.

*** ***** ** **** MSRP ******* *** ***** is ~**% - **% less **** ********** ****** SE ******:

*******: *** **** ** $402, *** ***** ** is $***
****-*****: *** **** ** $402, *** ***** ** is $***
****-***** **** ******: *** RPK40 ** $***, *** Signo *** ** $***

Three "********** ********" ********* ********** *************

*** ** ******** *** 'MultiClass' ********** *** ***** for ****** ******** ** read **** *** *** high-frequency ********** *******, *** instead ** ******** ******* into ***** ********* ********** profiles ** **** * claimed '**** **** **' formats:

*** ** *** ***** profiles *** '******-*******, ******* the *** ** ****** *****************. *******, ************* ***** physical ******* ****** **** three ********:

********: ****** **, **, iClass ******, ****** ******* EV1/EV2, ****** *******, *** kHz ****/******/******
****: **** **** ****** and ****** **** *******
*****: ****** **, **, iClass ******, ****** ******* (SIO ****), *** *** MIFARE ******* ***/***, ****** Classic *** ** *** kHz ***-********* *******.

*** ***** ********** *** latest **.** *** ***-**** credentials, *** '****' ******* is **** *** **********. Existing '**********' ***** ***** to *****'* '********' *******. The '*****' ******* ******** non-HID **.** *** ***********.

Signo ********** ********* & ******

******* ******* ******** ** that ***** ******** ******/*** and **** ******* ** integrated *******, ****** *** common *** ********** ******* add ** ****** **:

***** *** ***** ****** contains ********** ******* *** both ********* *** ****, which *** ********** **** options ** ****** **.
*** *********/******** *** *** using *** *********** ************* of ****** **, ********* the **** ******* ********** configuration, **** ******* *** BLE *** ****, **** notice * *********** ***** reduction ****** ***** ********** to *** *****.

*** ******* ********* *** ~$50 - $** ** the ***** ** ** iClass ** ******, *** are ******** ** *** base ***** ** ***** models.

Claimed ***** ****** **** *****?

*** ** *** **** interesting ****** ** ***** is ****** **** ****** than ******** *******.

*******, ********* ******** ****** SE ** *****, **** ranges ****** ****** *** same, ********* ~*.* ** 4 ****** *** ****** series ** *** ******:

*********, *** '******* *****' HID ****** ** ****** belongs ** ****** ********* ****** *****, ***** achieves * ******* **** distance ** '* - 5 ******' (~*.* - 16.4') ***** * ******* application *** **********, *** typical **.** *** *********** with **** ******* *********.

***** *****'* **** ****** do *** ****** ************* different, ** ***** *** to *******:

*** **** ********** ************, HID ***** **** ***** is ****** **** ****** SE. *** *** ***** have ********* **** *** we ****** **** ********* will ********** **** ***********. However, **** ********* ** the ********** **** ********* a ********** ** *** we **** ****** ** publish *** **** *****.

***'* ******** *********** ****** a ******* *********** ****** in *** ********* *** now **** ********** ********** versus ***** ********** *********** 'in *** **********':

** ****** **, ** published ******* **** **** mathematical ***** ** ********** conditions. **** ******** **** technical ******* ********** ******* field ************ ****** ******* the *** **********. ****, with *** *****, **’** implemented *** ************** ********* improvements *** ******** *** detailed *********** ********** *** have ****** ** ******* conservative ****** **********.

Read ******** ******** ******

**** ***** ** **** Signo ****** ** '********' fashion **** ********* *********.

No ***-**-**** *** ****** **

*** ******* ********* ** immediate ***-**-**** ***** *** iClass ** ******* ** Signo ******* *********. **** iClass ** ******* **** remain '********* *********' ** listed *****'* ******* ******* **************:

***** ** ** ****** to *** ***** *** product ***** ** * result ** **** ******.
*** ***, ****** ** readers *** ***** ** active ******** **** **** support **** *** ******. When ** *********** ****** offerings, ** **** ******** to ** ** *********** with ************* *** *** transition **** ** ********** our ******** *** ********* need ** ****.

'Surface ********* **** ************'

** ***** *** ** explain *** ********* ************ claims ** *** ** antennas ***** ** *** mounting *******. *** *********:

************ **** *********** ***** behind/around *** ****** ****** read *********** ** *********** credentials (*** **** * common *********). *** ***** includes *** ******* *** Signo ******* ** ****** a ********* ******* *** automatically ****** ***** ********* settings ** ******** *** performance ** ***** **********.
**** ** ********** ***** for *********** **** *** be ******** ******* ** mullions, *********, ***** ******** box *** *****, ** inside **********.

*** ******* ********** **** process ** ********* ****** use *** ******** ** technical *********** ** ********. The ****** *** '**********' impact ** ***** *********** based ** ******** **********:

*** ********* ********* ** surface *** ************* ** the ***** ********* ******** happens ** *** ****** is ********* ******* *** any **** *** ****** sensor ** *********. ***** is ********** ****** ** the *** ** *** power *********** ** *** reader ** * ****** of **** ****** ***********.

Plans ** ******* ***** *********** ** * ***** *****

**********, ***** **** ******* biometric ******, ********* *** recently ******** *********** ****** RB25F.

*** ********* *** ******** reader ***** ** ************ as ***** ***** * new ******* ** ******** is ********:

[*** *****] ** ** rebranding *** ***** ** that ** **** **** the ***** ******. *** rebrand **** ** ********** with ** ******** ********/******** update.

*** **** ** *** current *****'* ***********, *** our*** *********** ****** ************.

No ***** & **** *******

***** ******* ** *** include ***** & **** compatibility, ******* *** ***** time *** *** ******** readers **** ** *** support *** ********.

**** **** *** *******, Clock & **** ** a ************* ******** (****** uni-directional) **** ** ******** credential **** ******* ******* and ***********. *******, **** Wiegand, ** ** *** encrypted *** ** ****** regarded ** ********.

******** ** *******, ***** & **** ** *** commonly **** ***** *** offers ** *********** **********. However, ***** ****** *** of *** ******** ** older *******, ** ** a ****** ****** ** most *******, ********* ******** generation ****** ** ******.

** ***** *** *** comment ** *****'* ******* Clock & **** *******, and **** ********* **** if ******** ************* *******, they **** **-*** *** current *** ** ** low ** ** *******:

** *** ******* ******, HID ***** ******** ******* and ****. ***** & Data ** *** ********* on *** ***** ** this ****. *** ********** and ******** ******* **** legacy ******** *** ******* market ****** ** **** but ** **** ******** to ******* ******** ******** and ******** *** ****** to *** **** ********** via * ******** ******.

Comments (35)

Scott Fischer

Lorica Consulting LLC
IPVMU Certified | 03/06/20 04:44pm

*** ************ ***** * received **** *** **** stated "*** ******* *** also ******** ** ** connected *** ******* ******** without ********** ******** **** device." *** **** *** long ** ***** **** before ** *** ********* include ******* *** **** feature ** ***** ****** control *******?

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Scott Fischer | 03/06/20 04:54pm

"*** ******* *** **** designed ** ** ********* and ******* ******** ******* physically ******** **** ******." Any **** *** **** it ***** **** ****** we *** ********* ******* support *** **** ******* in ***** ****** ******* systems?"

** ***** *** ** expand ** ****, *** the ******/**-***-**** ******* ********** will ** ****** ** the ****** *** ****. HID's *******:

** *** ******, ** expect **** ******* ********* via **** **** **** be ******** *******.
... *** ****** *** designed ** *********** * connected ******. ***** ****** is ******* ** **-*********** communication *** ****; *** expectation ** **** **** will ** *** ******* interface ******* ***** ********* management ** *** ****** will ** **** *********.

***** ******** *** ***** being *********, *** *** included **/ ****** ** respective ******** **** **************.

** *** ***, ****** configuration *** ********** ***** happens ******'* ****** ***************** *** *** ******** each ******.

Undisclosed

In reply to Brian Rhodes | 03/06/20 08:32pm

** *** ********** **** in **** ******* *****, it ***** **** *** saying **** ** *** future **** **** ******* file ******** **** **** for ****** ***/** ******** update. **** **** ********* now ******* **** **** transfer; ******* ******** ** directly *** *** *** UI ** ***** (***** at *****) ******. ** more ****** ***** *******?

Undisclosed End User #2

In reply to Undisclosed | 03/09/20 01:40pm

*'** ***** **** *** that ****** ***** **** completely ** **** ** some ***** ** ***** of ****** ******* *** central ********** ******* *** ACS.

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed End User #2 | 03/09/20 02:13pm

**** ** ********* *******, reader ******* *** ******* replaces *** ***** ** readers **** ******* ***, and *** ******* ********** piece ** *** ** be ***** *** *** is *** ******** ****.

Undisclosed

In reply to Undisclosed End User #2 | 03/10/20 09:18pm

****** ******* (*** ******** else **** ******** * human ** ******* ** the ******) *** *** being ********* ** "*********** management". *** ** **** and *** *** ***** still ***** ** ** a ***** ** *** reader ** ** ***** the "**** *** ******* invented ******* ******" ****.

Ralph Azzi

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Scott Fischer | 03/06/20 07:22pm

* ****** **** ** is ******** ******* ***** HID ***** ****** ******* services, ********* ** *** background **** *** ****** Control ******, ******* ** what ** ********* *** with ****** ***********.

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ralph Azzi | 03/06/20 07:31pm

** **** **, *** it ** ****** '*******' talk. *** ** *********** the '**-***-**** ******* **********' aspect ******* ** ** future ********.

*** ***** ** ******** development ** **** *** use **** *** ********* access ******* ** *********** with *******.

Shannon Davis

In reply to Brian Rhodes | 03/09/20 02:24pm

* **** **** *** has ******* *** **** v2 & ******* ****** with **** *** ******* and **** ** *** they *****'* **** ** with * ***** ******** for ***** ******** *******.

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Shannon Davis | 03/09/20 02:29pm

**** ** ****** (*** soon ** ** *****)***** *********** ******, ****** *** *** supported. *** **** *** firmware ****** ** ****** this ** ********...

Undisclosed End User #1

03/06/20 09:52pm

***** *** **** ** on * ****** *********, but....

** *** *** * profile ******* ******* ****?
**** *** **** ******* reader ******* ****** **?

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed End User #1 | 03/06/20 10:08pm

**** ***** *** ****:

** *** *** * profile ******* ******* ****?

***

**** *** **** ******* reader ******* ****** **?

****** ** ** * reader ****** (** **** in **** ****). *** 'Standard' *** '*****' ******** support ***** ****** ****** formats ********* **, *** 'Seos' ******* **** ***.

Ralph Azzi

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Brian Rhodes | 03/06/20 10:17pm

** ***** *****, *** the ******** ******* ** you *** ***** * conversion, **** **** ****** and ****** ***** ***** in ***.

*** **** ******* *** new ***** **** *** credentials.

*** *** ***** ******* for ********* **** ******** sites *** **** ****** smart **** ***********. ( no ****** )

Undisclosed End User #1

In reply to Brian Rhodes | 03/06/20 10:26pm

*** ***** ** ******* what * *** ******* for, ******.

Undisclosed #4

In reply to Brian Rhodes | 06/27/20 11:44pm

****** ***** - ** it ******* **** ***** is *** ********** ******* DESFire/EV2 ******* *** **** e.g. ** **** ******** HIDs *********** *** ****** on *** ******* **** ?

**** ********** *** **** to ** **** ** order **** **** ******** with ******* *******/*** ******* (non ***), ***** **** they ******* **** ?

Ty Mullen

COR Security, Inc.
03/10/20 01:48pm

**** ***** *** *** Configurator ** *** *** to ****** ******* ******* and ****. ******* * thought **** **** **** native ** *** *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Ty Mullen | 03/10/20 02:02pm

* *** ******** ******* to ** *** *** yesterday *** ******* **** up. * *** **** it ** "***** * work ** ********" *** they *** ***% *** wiegand *** **** **** no ****** ** ****** either.

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ty Mullen | 03/10/20 03:19pm

*** ***** ** **** are *********, **** * radio ****** ** ****** Manager ** ****** ******* the ***, ******* ** iClass **. ** ********* either ****** **** ******** is *** ******* ************* it ***** ** ***.

* *****:

Q: *** *****, ******* ** ********* *** *** ** ****** **/*** ** *****/****** *******, ********?
*: *******. ******* *** OSDP *** **** ******** and *** ** ********** on/off *** *** *** Reader ******* ****** ***********. In *** ******, ** expect **** ******* ********* via **** **** **** be ******** *******.

*******, ***** *** ***** page ********* *** ******* to *** ********, *.*. Int #*'* ********, *'** ask *** ** *******.

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ty Mullen | 03/10/20 04:24pm

*** ********, ***** ****** option *** ** ******** via *** *******:

*** ***** ******* ******* both **** ** *** Wiegand. ** ***** ** the *** ****** ******* screen ****, * ****** technician *** ****** ******* the ***. **** **/*** enables ****, ** ************* disables ******* *** **** versa.
*** *** ************ **** not **** *** ******** choose ******* ******* *** Wiegand ** ****.
******, ** ****** ******** preference ** *** ******* configuration ***** **** ***** the ******** ****** **** number **** **** **** HID ************ ******. ** shown ** *** **********, this *** ** ****** changed ** *** *****.

Undisclosed

03/10/20 09:21pm

*** ***** ******* ******** now?

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed | 03/10/20 09:27pm

**** *** *** ** stock **** *'** ****, but ************ *** ****** orders, *.*.*******, **. **.

** ***** *** ****** could *** **** ** an '**-*****' ****.

Undisclosed End User #1

05/01/20 02:22pm

*** ****** **** *** terminal ***** ******* ** the ******* ******* ** the *******?

Ty Mullen

COR Security, Inc.
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1 | 05/01/20 04:22pm

* **** **** *** terminal ***** *** ***** standard **** ** ******* but *** *** *** Signo. *** ***** ** note ** **** **** want ********** ** *** a ****** (*** ********) for ******** *************.

* **** *** ****** the ******** ** *** readers *** ***** ** be ********* ** * single **** ***/****. ** not **** *** ******* is ******.

Dave Gideon

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ty Mullen | 08/12/20 01:43am

***** ** ** ******* in *** ************ ******** from *** ** ******* a ****** *** *** Signo *******

Jerome Ellis

05/06/20 02:23pm

** *** ******** ***** new ***** ******* ** a *** **********? ***** on ********* ***********..** ** wanted ** ******** ** all *** ******** **** would ** *** *********** single **** ********** ** use **** *** *** signo *******..******** ** *** going **** *** **** profile *** **** **** to ** ****?

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Jerome Ellis | 05/06/20 02:31pm

** *** ******** ***** new ***** ******* ** a *** **********? ***** on ********* ***********..

***** ** ********** ******** in **** ** ******** to *********** *** ******* or ****.

** ** ****** ** assemble ** *** *** solution **** ***** ** the *********** ****** **** controller ** *** **** the *** ***** *******..******** we *** ***** **** the **** ******* *** want **** ** ** used?

*** ********* ********** ***** be ********* * ********** the ********** ****** ** compatible ****. ** **** sense,**** ****** ********** ***** (Axis, ***, ******, *******)***** ** *******, *** keeping ** "*** ***" would ***** *** ********* to ******* ******** (** *** *****) ** *** ***********.

*** **** *** ** LP **** *** ********* by **** *** ****** door ***, *** ***** may ** ***** ******* than **** ***** *** depending ** ******** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

08/11/20 01:10pm

*** **** * ** looking *** * ****** with * ****** *** a ***** ******* ** prompt *** ****. **** OSDP, ******, *** **** support. *** ** ***** that * ****** *** the ****** ** *** pesky *******.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 08/12/20 03:08am

*** ************ *** ******* which ** ******** **** you ****. *** ******** won't **** *** *** party ***** ****** **** supports ******/**** ***** **** only **** ** ******* that **** *** ** multi-function ******* **** ********* readers. ** ** *** didn't **** ****** *** a *********** ******...

David Coughlin

08/11/20 04:52pm

** ***** *** **** on *** ******* ***** the ***** *****?

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to David Coughlin | 08/11/20 05:01pm

******* *** *** *** iClass ** ***** ** the *** *******, *** HID ***** ** **** the ***** ****/*********** ******* is ***** ********* *** this ***** ******.

Undisclosed #7

08/12/20 04:44am

******* * ***** ******* Lenel's **** *******. *** is **** *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #7 | 08/12/20 12:07pm

*** ** **** *****.

**** **** *****? **** Mike *****? **** **** Tyson?

** *** ***********, *** you *********** *****'* **** Diamond **?

Shannon Davis

In reply to Undisclosed #7 | 08/12/20 01:55pm

*** **** ** ** Mike ***** ** *** 80's. *** *** ** Mike ***** ** ****, dazed *** ********. ***'* get ** ***** *** is * ***** ******* but ***** ******** ******* on **** *.* ** astounding.

**** ******* ** ****** good ***** ****. ********** there ******** *******.

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Shannon Davis | 08/12/20 05:05pm

*** ***** ******** ******* on **** *.* ** astounding.

******* ** **** ******? Not ********* ***, *** curious ** **** ******* they **** ******.

Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #7 | 08/12/20 05:00pm

***** **** ******* *********.

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