HID Releases Lower-Cost Signo Readers

By: Brian Rhodes, Published on Mar 06, 2020

HID Global is releasing a new line of readers called Signo they claim read farther, are mobile-ready, and automatically adjust for better reads on difficult surfaces.

But are they better than the line they replace, the iClass SE? In this report, we examine HID's claims and share their feedback, including:

  • Signo's initial 4 reader models, including a new mullion keypad type reader
  • Comparing pricing for Signo to the existing iClass SE
  • Why HID's explanation of Signo's longer read distances are confusing
  • How the 3 new 'Credential Profiles' impact which cards can be used
  • HID plans for iClass SE?
  • What Signo's 'Surface Detection Read Optimization' means
  • What the plans are for RB25F Fingerprint readers
  • What impact from Signo dropping 'Clock & Data' support

*** ****** ** ********** *** **** ** readers*************** ***** **** *******, are ******-*****, *** ************* adjust *** ****** ***** on ********* ********.

*** *** **** ****** than *** **** **** replace, *** ****** **? In **** ******, ** examine ***'* ****** *** share ***** ********, *********:

  • *****'* ******* * ****** models, ********* * *** mullion ****** **** ******
  • ********* ******* *** ***** to *** ******** ****** SE
  • *** ***'* *********** ** Signo's ****** **** ********* are *********
  • *** *** * *** 'Credential ********' ****** ***** cards *** ** ****
  • *** ***** *** ****** SE?
  • **** *****'* '******* ********* Read ************' *****
  • **** *** ***** *** for ***** *********** *******
  • **** ****** **** ***** dropping '***** & ****' support

[***************]

Signo ****** ******

*** **** ***** ***** series *** **** ******* and ****** ******* *** touts '********* ******* *********' to '******** **** ***********' when ******* ** ************* challenging ******** **** ***** siding ** **********.

** ******,***** ******** **** ******:

  • ******* (**): *** ******* sized ***** ******** ~*.*" X *.*" * *.*", with * ***** **** average ** ~** **.
  • ******* **** ****** (***): not ********* ** *** iClass ** ******, *** 20K ** * **** mullion ***** ****** **** a * * * capacitive ******, ******* ** average ** ~** **.
  • ****-***** (**): *** ****-***** unit ******** ~ *.*" X *.*" * *.*" and ***** ** ******* of ~** **.
  • ****-***** **** ****** (***): The ****-***** **** **** a * * * capacitive ****** ***** ~** mA.

Signo ** ***** ***** **** ****** **

*** ** *** ******* differences ** *** ***** series ** ****** **** than ********** ****** ** series.

*** ***** ** **** MSRP ******* *** ***** is ~**% - **% less **** ********** ****** SE ******:

  • *******: *** **** ** $402, *** ***** ** is $***
  • ****-*****: *** **** ** $402, *** ***** ** is $***
  • ****-***** **** ******: *** RPK40 ** $***, *** Signo *** ** $***

Three "********** ********" ********* ********** *************

*** ** ******** *** 'MultiClass' ********** *** ***** for ****** ******** ** read **** *** *** high-frequency ********** *******, *** instead ** ******** ******* into ***** ********* ********** profiles ** **** * claimed '**** **** **' formats:

*** ** *** ***** profiles *** '******-*******, ******* the *** ** ****** *****************. *******, ************* ***** physical ******* ****** **** three ********:

  • ********: ****** **, **, iClass ******, ****** ******* EV1/EV2, ****** *******, *** kHz ****/******/******
  • ****: **** **** ****** and ****** **** *******
  • *****: ****** **, **, iClass ******, ****** ******* (SIO ****), *** *** MIFARE ******* ***/***, ****** Classic *** ** *** kHz ***-********* *******.

*** ***** ********** *** latest **.** *** ***-**** credentials, *** '****' ******* is **** *** **********. Existing '**********' ***** ***** to *****'* '********' *******. The '*****' ******* ******** non-HID **.** *** ***********.

Signo ********** ********* & ******

******* ******* ******** ** that ***** ******** ******/*** and **** ******* ** integrated *******, ****** *** common *** ********** ******* add ** ****** **:

***** *** ***** ****** contains ********** ******* *** both ********* *** ****, which *** ********** **** options ** ****** **.

*** *********/******** *** *** using *** *********** ************* of ****** **, ********* the **** ******* ********** configuration, **** ******* *** BLE *** ****, **** notice * *********** ***** reduction ****** ***** ********** to *** *****.

*** ******* ********* *** ~$50 - $** ** the ***** ** ** iClass ** ******, *** are ******** ** *** base ***** ** ***** models.

Claimed ***** ****** **** *****?

*** ** *** **** interesting ****** ** ***** is ****** **** ****** than ******** *******.

*******, ********* ******** ****** SE ** *****, **** ranges ****** ****** *** same, ********* ~*.* ** 4 ****** *** ****** series ** *** ******:

*********, *** '******* *****' HID ****** ** ****** belongs ** ****** ********* ****** *****, ***** achieves * ******* **** distance ** '* - 5 ******' (~*.* - 16.4') ***** * ******* application *** **********, *** typical **.** *** *********** with **** ******* *********.

***** *****'* **** ****** do *** ****** ************* different, ** ***** *** to *******:

*** **** ********** ************, HID ***** **** ***** is ****** **** ****** SE. *** *** ***** have ********* **** *** we ****** **** ********* will ********** **** ***********. However, **** ********* ** the ********** **** ********* a ********** ** *** we **** ****** ** publish *** **** *****.

***'* ******** *********** ****** a ******* *********** ****** in *** ********* *** now **** ********** ********** versus ***** ********** *********** 'in *** **********':

** ****** **, ** published ******* **** **** mathematical ***** ** ********** conditions. **** ******** **** technical ******* ********** ******* field ************ ****** ******* the *** **********. ****, with *** *****, **’** implemented *** ************** ********* improvements *** ******** *** detailed *********** ********** *** have ****** ** ******* conservative ****** **********.

Read ******** ******** ******

**** ***** ** **** Signo ****** ** '********' fashion **** ********* *********.

No ***-**-**** *** ****** **

*** ******* ********* ** immediate ***-**-**** ***** *** iClass ** ******* ** Signo ******* *********. **** iClass ** ******* **** remain '********* *********' ** listed *****'* ******* ******* **************:

***** ** ** ****** to *** ***** *** product ***** ** * result ** **** ******.

*** ***, ****** ** readers *** ***** ** active ******** **** **** support **** *** ******. When ** *********** ****** offerings, ** **** ******** to ** ** *********** with ************* *** *** transition **** ** ********** our ******** *** ********* need ** ****.

'Surface ********* **** ************'

** ***** *** ** explain *** ********* ************ claims ** *** ** antennas ***** ** *** mounting *******. *** *********:

************ **** *********** ***** behind/around *** ****** ****** read *********** ** *********** credentials (*** **** * common *********). *** ***** includes *** ******* *** Signo ******* ** ****** a ********* ******* *** automatically ****** ***** ********* settings ** ******** *** performance ** ***** **********.

**** ** ********** ***** for *********** **** *** be ******** ******* ** mullions, *********, ***** ******** box *** *****, ** inside **********.

*** ******* ********** **** process ** ********* ****** use *** ******** ** technical *********** ** ********. The ****** *** '**********' impact ** ***** *********** based ** ******** **********:

*** ********* ********* ** surface *** ************* ** the ***** ********* ******** happens ** *** ****** is ********* ******* *** any **** *** ****** sensor ** *********. ***** is ********** ****** ** the *** ** *** power *********** ** *** reader ** * ****** of **** ****** ***********.

Plans ** ******* ***** *********** ** * ***** *****

**********, ***** **** ******* biometric ******, ********* *** recently ******** *********** ****** RB25F.

*** ********* *** ******** reader ***** ** ************ as ***** ***** * new ******* ** ******** is ********:

[*** *****] ** ** rebranding *** ***** ** that ** **** **** the ***** ******. *** rebrand **** ** ********** with ** ******** ********/******** update.

*** **** ** *** current *****'* ***********, *** our*** *********** ****** ************.

No ***** & **** *******

***** ******* ** *** include ***** & **** compatibility, ******* *** ***** time *** *** ******** readers **** ** *** support *** ********.

**** **** *** *******, Clock & **** ** a ************* ******** (****** uni-directional) **** ** ******** credential **** ******* ******* and ***********. *******, **** Wiegand, ** ** *** encrypted *** ** ****** regarded ** ********.

******** ** *******, ***** & **** ** *** commonly **** ***** *** offers ** *********** **********. However, ***** ****** *** of *** ******** ** older *******, ** ** a ****** ****** ** most *******, ********* ******** generation ****** ** ******.

** ***** *** *** comment ** *****'* ******* Clock & **** *******, and **** ********* **** if ******** ************* *******, they **** **-*** *** current *** ** ** low ** ** *******:

** *** ******* ******, HID ***** ******** ******* and ****. ***** & Data ** *** ********* on *** ***** ** this ****. *** ********** and ******** ******* **** legacy ******** *** ******* market ****** ** **** but ** **** ******** to ******* ******** ******** and ******** *** ****** to *** **** ********** via * ******** ******.

Comments (24)

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Scott Fischer

Lorica Consulting LLC
IPVMU Certified | 03/06/20 04:44pm

*** ************ ***** * received **** *** **** stated "*** ******* *** also ******** ** ** connected *** ******* ******** without ********** ******** **** device." *** **** *** long ** ***** **** before ** *** ********* include ******* *** **** feature ** ***** ****** control *******?

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Scott Fischer | 03/06/20 10:54am

"*** ******* *** **** designed ** ** ********* and ******* ******** ******* physically ******** **** ******." Any **** *** **** it ***** **** ****** we *** ********* ******* support *** **** ******* in ***** ****** ******* systems?"

** ***** *** ** expand ** ****, *** the ******/**-***-**** ******* ********** will ** ****** ** the ****** *** ****. HID's *******:

** *** ******, ** expect **** ******* ********* via **** **** **** be ******** *******.

... *** ****** *** designed ** *********** * connected ******. ***** ****** is ******* ** **-*********** communication *** ****; *** expectation ** **** **** will ** *** ******* interface ******* ***** ********* management ** *** ****** will ** **** *********.

***** ******** *** ***** being *********, *** *** included **/ ****** ** respective ******** **** **************.

** *** ***, ****** configuration *** ********** ***** happens ******'* ****** ***************** *** *** ******** each ******.

Rodney Thayer

Smithee Solutions LLC
In reply to Brian Rhodes | 03/06/20 08:32pm

** *** ********** **** in **** ******* *****, it ***** **** *** saying **** ** *** future **** **** ******* file ******** **** **** for ****** ***/** ******** update. **** **** ********* now ******* **** **** transfer; ******* ******** ** directly *** *** *** UI ** ***** (***** at *****) ******. ** more ****** ***** *******?

Undisclosed End User #2

In reply to Rodney Thayer | 03/09/20 01:40pm

*'** ***** **** *** that ****** ***** **** completely ** **** ** some ***** ** ***** of ****** ******* *** central ********** ******* *** ACS.

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed End User #2 | 03/09/20 02:13pm

**** ** ********* *******, reader ******* *** ******* replaces *** ***** ** readers **** ******* ***, and *** ******* ********** piece ** *** ** be ***** *** *** is *** ******** ****.

Rodney Thayer

Smithee Solutions LLC
In reply to Undisclosed End User #2 | 03/10/20 09:18pm

****** ******* (*** ******** else **** ******** * human ** ******* ** the ******) *** *** being ********* ** "*********** management". *** ** **** and *** *** ***** still ***** ** ** a ***** ** *** reader ** ** ***** the "**** *** ******* invented ******* ******" ****.

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Ralph Azzi

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Scott Fischer | 03/06/20 07:22pm

* ****** **** ** is ******** ******* ***** HID ***** ****** ******* services, ********* ** *** background **** *** ****** Control ******, ******* ** what ** ********* *** with ****** ***********.

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ralph Azzi | 03/06/20 07:31pm

** **** **, *** it ** ****** '*******' talk. *** ** *********** the '**-***-**** ******* **********' aspect ******* ** ** future ********.

*** ***** ** ******** development ** **** *** use **** *** ********* access ******* ** *********** with *******.

Shannon Davis

TED Systems
In reply to Brian Rhodes | 03/09/20 02:24pm

* **** **** *** has ******* *** **** v2 & ******* ****** with **** *** ******* and **** ** *** they *****'* **** ** with * ***** ******** for ***** ******** *******.

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Shannon Davis | 03/09/20 02:29pm

**** ** ****** (*** soon ** ** *****)***** *********** ******, ****** *** *** supported. *** **** *** firmware ****** ** ****** this ** ********...

Undisclosed End User #1

03/06/20 09:52pm

***** *** **** ** on * ****** *********, but....

** *** *** * profile ******* ******* ****?
**** *** **** ******* reader ******* ****** **?

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed End User #1 | 03/06/20 10:08pm

**** ***** *** ****:

** *** *** * profile ******* ******* ****?

***

**** *** **** ******* reader ******* ****** **?

****** ** ** * reader ****** (** **** in **** ****). *** 'Standard' *** '*****' ******** support ***** ****** ****** formats ********* **, *** 'Seos' ******* **** ***.

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Ralph Azzi

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Brian Rhodes | 03/06/20 10:17pm

** ***** *****, *** the ******** ******* ** you *** ***** * conversion, **** **** ****** and ****** ***** ***** in ***.

*** **** ******* *** new ***** **** *** credentials.

*** *** ***** ******* for ********* **** ******** sites *** **** ****** smart **** ***********. ( no ****** )

Undisclosed End User #1

In reply to Brian Rhodes | 03/06/20 10:26pm

*** ***** ** ******* what * *** ******* for, ******.

Ty Mullen

COR Security, Inc.
03/10/20 01:48pm

**** ***** *** *** Configurator ** *** *** to ****** ******* ******* and ****. ******* * thought **** **** **** native ** *** *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Ty Mullen | 03/10/20 02:02pm

* *** ******** ******* to ** *** *** yesterday *** ******* **** up. * *** **** it ** "***** * work ** ********" *** they *** ***% *** wiegand *** **** **** no ****** ** ****** either.

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ty Mullen | 03/10/20 03:19pm

*** ***** ** **** are *********, **** * radio ****** ** ****** Manager ** ****** ******* the ***, ******* ** iClass **. ** ********* either ****** **** ******** is *** ******* ************* it ***** ** ***.

* *****:

Q: *** *****, ******* ** ********* *** *** ** ****** **/*** ** *****/****** *******, ********?

*: *******. ******* *** OSDP *** **** ******** and *** ** ********** on/off *** *** *** Reader ******* ****** ***********. In *** ******, ** expect **** ******* ********* via **** **** **** be ******** *******.

*******, ***** *** ***** page ********* *** ******* to *** ********, *.*. Int #*'* ********, *'** ask *** ** *******.

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ty Mullen | 03/10/20 04:24pm

*** ********, ***** ****** option *** ** ******** via *** *******:

*** ***** ******* ******* both **** ** *** Wiegand. ** ***** ** the *** ****** ******* screen ****, * ****** technician *** ****** ******* the ***. **** **/*** enables ****, ** ************* disables ******* *** **** versa.

*** *** ************ **** not **** *** ******** choose ******* ******* *** Wiegand ** ****.

******, ** ****** ******** preference ** *** ******* configuration ***** **** ***** the ******** ****** **** number **** **** **** HID ************ ******. ** shown ** *** **********, this *** ** ****** changed ** *** *****.

Rodney Thayer

Smithee Solutions LLC
03/10/20 09:21pm

*** ***** ******* ******** now?

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Rodney Thayer | 03/10/20 09:27pm

**** *** *** ** stock **** *'** ****, but ************ *** ****** orders, *.*.*******, **. **.

** ***** *** ****** could *** **** ** an '**-*****' ****.

Undisclosed End User #1

05/01/20 02:22pm

*** ****** **** *** terminal ***** ******* ** the ******* ******* ** the *******?

Ty Mullen

COR Security, Inc.
In reply to Undisclosed End User #1 | 05/01/20 04:22pm

* **** **** *** terminal ***** *** ***** standard **** ** ******* but *** *** *** Signo. *** ***** ** note ** **** **** want ********** ** *** a ****** (*** ********) for ******** *************.

* **** *** ****** the ******** ** *** readers *** ***** ** be ********* ** * single **** ***/****. ** not **** *** ******* is ******.

Jerome Ellis

05/06/20 02:23pm

** *** ******** ***** new ***** ******* ** a *** **********? ***** on ********* ***********..** ** wanted ** ******** ** all *** ******** **** would ** *** *********** single **** ********** ** use **** *** *** signo *******..******** ** *** going **** *** **** profile *** **** **** to ** ****?

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Jerome Ellis | 05/06/20 02:31pm

** *** ******** ***** new ***** ******* ** a *** **********? ***** on ********* ***********..

***** ** ********** ******** in **** ** ******** to *********** *** ******* or ****.

** ** ****** ** assemble ** *** *** solution **** ***** ** the *********** ****** **** controller ** *** **** the *** ***** *******..******** we *** ***** **** the **** ******* *** want **** ** ** used?

*** ********* ********** ***** be ********* * ********** the ********** ****** ** compatible ****. ** **** sense,**** ****** ********** ***** (Axis, ***, ******, *******)***** ** *******, *** keeping ** "*** ***" would ***** *** ********* to ******* ******** (** *** *****) ** *** ***********.

*** **** *** ** LP **** *** ********* by **** *** ****** door ***, *** ***** may ** ***** ******* than **** ***** *** depending ** ******** *******.

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