Hanwha: Chinese Products Damaged Industry

By: John Honovich, Published on Jan 25, 2018

Hanwha Techwin's CEO has come out swinging against the Chinese.

In this note, we examine his statements, the relative positioning of Chinese and Korean manufacturers and how it reflects an increasing conflict between Chinese manufacturers and the rest of the world.

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** ** ***** *********, Hanwha ******* ***'* *** statements ********:

*** ****** *** ***** significant ********** *** ** the ****** ** ***-****** Chinese ********. ** ** opinion, **** *** ******* damaged *** ********’* *********.

*** ****** ********’* ********* has **** ******** *******. However, * *** ******* strategy ***** ***’* ********* a ******** ******** ** the ****** ******* *** I ******* **** ** is *** ******** *** breaking *****.

*********, ** *** *************** our ******** **** ***-****** Chinese ******** ** *** of *** ************* ************ and **********, ***** ****** the ****** *** *********** of *** ********.

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*** ********* ** ********* on******'* *** *******.

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*********, ******** ********** ****** have *** **** *********** *******. The **** ***** ******** about *** ********* *** that ** ********* **** out *** **** ** publicly.

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*** ****** ***** ** a ******* ** **** such **:

  • ***-**** ***** ******** ******* value *** ***************
  • *** *** ******* **** belies ****** **** *********** and ******* ********
  • ** **********, ***** *** significant *************** **** ******* companies **** ****** *********** problems
  • *** *********** ** ***-**** pricing *** ***** ***** and ********* ************ ** unsustainable
  • *****'* ************* ******* *** barriers ******* ******* ************* selling ****** ***** ****** an ****** *******, *********** their ******** ********* ** international *********

Hanwha's ******** ****** ********

*** *********** ****** ** Hanwha ******* ***'* ******* is **** ****** ** *** ********* competitor ** *** ******* *** a *********** ** *****, relatively *** ******* *** product breadth (*.*., *** ********* **** ************ ****** By ***********). ** *** ****** that ***** *** ********* struggle, ****** ****** ** gain. ********, ** *** extent **** ****** *** increase *** ****** ********* *** sales ************, ****** *** an *********** ** ********* ********* Chinese ************ *********. 

China ******** ***** *****

**** ******* ** ********* not ******* ** ************ products. **** ****, ***** bullied *** ********* ***** Korea (***********: ***** ***** *.*., So ******* ****** ******** Instead****** *****'* ******** ** South ***** **** **** Unanticipated ***** *** **** Parties). *****'* ********** ********* and ****** ******* *** increasingly ******* ***** ********* and ********* ** ********** the ****** *** ** fight ****.

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** *** *************** *** products **** ***-****** ******* products ** *** ** our ************* ************ *** facilities

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***********. ********* ** *** taking ********* ** *** communist ****** *** *** lack ** ***** ****** that Vietnam *********** ********* *** historically *** *** **** seems *** ** ******* any ********* **** ****? 

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** **** **** ** considered **** ** *** complicit ** *** "****** ****** to *** ********’* *********" ** having ************ ** ***** previously (*** *********) *** that * **** ** communist, ***** ****** ****** in ******* ** ****** different.

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******, **** *** *** bollock ****, **** **** *** appears ** **** ********** the 28 ****** ******* ******** ***** ********** ****** China, ***** *********** ** ***** they *** ****** *** of ***** ** ******* they *** ******** "** the **** ** *****.

** ****** ******* ** a **** **** ******** is **********. ******* *** information ** **** ** actually ***** ******** ***** is ************* *** ***** the ******* ********* *** official ********* **** **** states **** ***** ********** is ** *** ****.

**** ** *** ** this **** * ** currently ******* * ****** of **** ***** ******* - ** * **** no ****** **** *** company ** *** *******. The ***** * **** is *** ********* ** reporting. 

 

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* ***'* *** *** parallel ******* ** *** HIK ***** **** **** they **** *********** ******** in ** **** - like **** ** *** CCTV ********. *** **** a ************ ***** ********** into * *** ******** they *** ** *** incentives **** *** ***** government - ** **** is ******* ***** ** the ***** ** *** loans **** *** *** received **** *** ******* Government.

** **** ****** ** that **** ** ********* on **'* ********** *** now **'* ********* *** industry ******** ** **** for discussion. **** ** **** is ******** ** ****** reporting.

***** *** ** ******** about *** ******* **** story ***** **** **** is ******?

*** ****** ** *** story ** ** ******* China ** * *** light - ********** ******** by *** *** ** HT. ** ******** **** China ** *********** *** causing "****** ****** ** the ********’* *********". **********, IPVM *** ****** ** single *** ***** ** respect ** ********** *********, cybersecurity *******, **** ****** conditions *** * ****** of ***** ********.

*** ******* ******* ** use ** ***'* ******* to ******* * ******* theme **** ***** ** the ***** ***** ** the "****** ******" *** why ** *** ****** to *******. 

******* ***** * ********* statement **** ** ** a ****** ****** ** China (*****/*********) ** ***** when *** ******* ******** presented ** ************* ******. 

**** **** ** **** Vietnam ********** ** ***** appalling ***** ****** ******, communist **********, ****-*********** ********* and ***** **** ****** the ******* ** ** suggesting **** ** * "better" *********** **** ***** that ** ******* ******** within *** ***** *******. Then ***** **** *** mix **** *** ******* HT ********** ****** ******* leans ******* ***** ***** their ********** ** **********.

*** ***** ** ** is *** ************* *** of * **** ***** to *** ******* ** the **** ** ****-***** rhetoric, **** *** ******* being ********* ** ******** an ********* ******** ** China *** ******* *** a ***** **** ** faith ** *** ******* that * ***** ********* seeks ** *********.

** **** *** **** a *** ***** *** ******** would **** **** ** the ***** ********, *** retraction ** *** *********, hypocrisy ********* *** *** the ********* ***** *** the **** ********* ** a ******* **** ** pulled *** ** ********* hat **** ** ***** to *** *** *********.

* ******* **** * am ******* ** **** is **** *** **** degree ** ******** **** applies ** ***** ******* regarding *********, ******* *** to **** **** ******* to ** - ** common **** ***** ******** Hikvision *****.

 

***, ****** *** *** feedback.

**** ****** **** *** incorrect *** * *** want ** *******:

***** * ********* ********* from **

*** ** * **** story

*** ********** ** *** statement

* ***** **** ****** about **** *** **** confirmed *** ********* *** legitimate *** **** ***** CEO **** *** **********.

***, ** *** *** it *** ********* *** who *** ** (***** or **, ***.), * have *** ****** * straight ******. ** ***** is **** ******* (******* on ***** ** **'* side) ******** **** **** would ******* ***** *** Chinese / ********* *** it *** *******.

** *** **** ****** / ******* ***** *******, * think ***** *** **** to *****. ** *** other ****, *** ******* and ***** ****** ** China *** ******* ** a *** ******* / higher ***** **** ******* (or ** ***** ***** to *** *** #* at **** ******). 

"*** ****** ** *** story ** ** ******* China ** * *** light - ********** ******** by *** *** ** HT. ** ******** **** China ** *********** *** causing "****** ****** ** the ********’* *********". **********, IPVM *** ****** ** single *** ***** ** respect ** ********** *********, cybersecurity *******, **** ****** conditions *** * ****** of ***** ********."

*** ****'* ******** ** be ******:

*/ ***** ***** **** to ** ***** ***** CCTV ************* *** *** government ***** **** **** chose ** ******.

*/ ***** ***** **** to ** ***** ***** CCTV ************* *** *** major ************* ****** **** IPVM ***** ** ******.

**** ******* ** *** e-mail:

*/ "******** ********* *****"... 

***** *** ******* ******** ***** IPVM *** ****** ** report ** ****** ** these ***** ** ******** a "********" **** **** was *** **********?

*'** ******** *** ********* stories *** ******* ** cyber ******** ********* *** some ** *** ********* have ************ ******** ** "click ****". **** ****, the ******* ** *** ******* have *** ********* ****** (untrue) **********.

 

 

 

***** ** *****?

**...** **** *** ****** ********** *****. ****'* ***** ******* investigative journalistic ****** ****'* ** as *** ** ** check **** *** ********* in ******** *** **** been ****** * ******* up ****** **** *** HM ******* **** *****, in **** ******* ****, have ****** ** * warning *** ** ****** £41k ** ******. *** piece ** ***** ** was ******* ** ***** was * ******** ***********. In ** ** ***** of **********, * **** never **** * **** because * ****'* **** a *********** **** ******** undertaken. *** ** **** failed ** ****** *** ones ********* ** ** what *** **** ***** was. *** *** - it **** *** **** fake ****.

*** ***** **** **** skewed ******* ****************** * ****** ***** installed ** * ******* toilet***** ******* ****** ** to *** **** ***** seem *** ** ******* Hikvision ** *** **** title - ****** ******** reporting? 

 

*** **, **** ****** is ************ ** ***** and ** *** ******* **** are *****, ******** *** ******* by * ****** *******.

* *** **** *** loving ***** ** *** middle ** *** ******** getting *** ** ***** Hikvision *** **** *****. 

**, ****** ** *** biggest **** *** ** the ***** 

**, ****** ** *** biggest **** *** ** the *****

********?  *** **** ******** relevant *** * *** think ** ** ******* coming *** **** ***** touch ***** ***** ***** a **** ** ** after *****.  *******, **'* pretty ***** *** ******** was ******** **** *** at *** ****.

*** ****** ********’* ********* has **** ******** *******.

******?

***** *** *** ******* layoffs?  *** ****** ******** numbers?  

****’* ******* ****** *** less ********* ***** **** 5 ***** ***?

** **** *** ***** capitalism?

*****'* **** * *** of **********. *** ****** and ********* ************* **** been **** ***. ******, many ** *** ***** and ********* ** ********* previously worked *** ***** ***** manufacturers **** **** *** back. * *** ******** off *** *** ** my **** ***** ** covered ******** ********* - ****** ******** **** - The ******* ************* ** ****, ********* Shifts **********, ***** ** ******* one ***** ***** ******* is *** ****.

** *** *** ****** earnings ******, **** *** Avigilon *** ****** ******* in *** **** / 2016 ****** ****** *** height ** *** ******* expansion, *.*., **** ***** ******* **** (Q3 ****)******** ***** ******* ** Bad ********** (** ****).

********* ** **** ***** tend ** **** ***** problems ** ******* ** possible, ** ********* ***** of **** *******, ** would ** ****** ****** universally ********.

** *** ***** **********, **** is ***** ** **** trade, *** ************* *** losing ***** *** ***** overseas *********, ***** ** what ** ********* ****.

**** ** ***** ** despite *** ******* ******* ecosystem, **?

*% *** **% ****** for **** ** **** and **** ******** * damaged *********. ****, **** in ****, **** ** strong ** *** ****-*** while ***** *** ********* are **** ** *** high-end in ********* *********, ** Axis *********** ** ** outlier.

******** *****, ********* ** Nuvico's ********** (** *** ****** other ******* *******) ***** revenue ** ******* ****.

*****, ********* ** ******'* financials (** *** ****** other ******* *******) ***** revenue ** ******* ****.

* ***** ***** **** this *** ****** ** do **** *** ******* market *** **** ** do **** ***** ********** to ***** ** ******** customer ****** ******.

****, **** **** *** '******** customer ****** ******' ****** *** Chinese ******* ** **** lower ******?

******: **

**** **** ****** *** prevalent, ***** ****** **** well *****. *** *** the ****. * **** also *** **** ***** were ****** ** ***** Chinese ****** ******* ****** to *** ****** *** good ** **** **** these ****** **** ******* and ***** **** ****** still *********. **** ** when ****** & ******* came ** *** *****. 700TVL ******* *** $** out ** *****, **** was ******* ** ** the ****. ***********, *** name ****** ***** ********* regardless ** **** *** could *** ** *******.

**** ** ******* ******** popular, ***** ****** ***** pay ********* *** *** tunnel ****** **** *** type *******. ****, ** I ********, * **** think **** **** **** ** *** game ** *** **** cameras ** ****. * dont **** **** ****** took * ******* *** towards **, *** **/**** they ***, **** **** too **** ** *** game. 

 

******: **

**, *** ******. * agree **** ****** **** ignored ** **** **** badly. *** **'* *** that ******* ******** ** and *** ********* *** Koreans ********. *** *******, clearly, *** ********* (** particular ****, ********, *********) **** far ***** ** ** than *** *******. ***, regardless ** ****, **** still *** ************ ** *********, since ********* *** ******* to **** ** ***** costs *** ***** *** **** on ***** *** *********.

****, **** *** ******** a ******* ****** **** the **** *** ***** with ***** *** ***, IVA, ***** ********, ************ and ******** *******. 

**** *** ******** * broader ******

*** ****'* **** * factor ** **** **********. For *******, **** ** 2013, '*****' / ***-***** sales *********** **** **** 0.2% ** **** *******. In ****, **** **** to *.*%. **** ***** is * ******** ******** but, *********** *** *** Axis ****** *** ** 2015 *** ****, *** non-video ***** **** * major ****** ** **** limited ****** **** ***.

***, *** ********* ** over *** ***. *** will **** *** *** remain * ******, *** the ******** ******** **** is ********* ** **** they **** *** **** always **** **** ** trust. 

*** **** ** **** is ********** ****** ** aquisition? 

** *** ***** *******, we ***** ***** *** $300 *** *** ******* camera ** **'* ******* than $*** **** ** Bosch.

* ** ** ****** believer ** **** ***** and **** ****** ********** so * *** ***** of ****** *********** (**** abroad *** ** *** USA) ***** *** *** Chinese *** ********** *** market. *** **** "**** trade" ** **** *** and *** ****** ** battled **** *** ******* approach ** *****. * believe ** *** *** people, ****** ***** *** earth, ***** *** ***, let *** **** ****** manufacturers ***.

* *********** **** ******* products *** **** *********. I **** *********** **** its ********* ** ******* in ***** **** *** Chinese. * **** *********** that ******* ********* *** highly ********** *** ***** costs *** ***.

*** ** ***** ** blame ** *** ******** that ** ******* *** demand ** *** ******* products ** *****? ** consumers **** ****** ***** chinese ********, **** ********* its * ********* *******. You **** *** *** "low ****" **** *** the **** ******, *** are ***** ** *** do. ****** **** **** buy *** **** *** so ****, *** ** the ******* **** *****, people **** **** ** and ****** **** ********. This ** *** ** used ** ** **** China, *** ** **** anymore. *** ***** ** that ********* *** ******* with *** *** ***** as **** ** *** quality ** *** *******, so **** ******** ******. Supply *** ******

** *** **** ******* on *****, **** ***** on ****** * ********** better ******* ******* *** find * *** ** make ** *********** ** where *** *** ************* higher **** ******* ********. Problem **, **** ********* have *** ******* *** a *** ** ** that.

  • *** *********** ** ***-**** pricing *** ***** ***** and ********* ************ ** unsustainable

 

********** ********, **** *** gone ** *** *** long ** *** *** unsustainable.

* **** ******* *** following **** "* ******** like **** ** ****** policies *** **** ** has **** ** ***" but *** ****** ******** to **** * **% tariff *** **% ******* on ******* ******** *** solar ***** *** ********** and ********** *** ***** approach ** ****** ** compete ********. * **** blow ** **** ****** capitalism. ************* **** ********* are ****** ******* **** cant **** * *** to **** * **** efficient ******* ******* **** our ******** ************, ** they *** ** ***** and ***** *********** ********* the ******** ** ****** it **** ********* ** find ******* ** **** our ******* *****. ** trump ***** *** "*****". A ****** ******** ***** have **** **** **** subsidies *** ******** ******* for ****** ** **** a **** **** ********* washing ******* ** ***** manufacturing ***********. *** "******* to ****** ********" *** much ****** **** "********* to ****** ********".

*** *** ******* ***** abound.

****, *** **** **** good ********************... ** *** **** a **** ** **** race?

** ********* ** *** do. *** **** **** out **** *** *** your **** ******* *******

* ***** ******* *******! ;-)

* ***** **** ******** of **** ******** *****, and ********** **** *****. Although *** *********** *** subsidies, * ***'* ***** you ********** *** ********* this ***** ***, ** this ********* ****** *** feel ** ** **** playing *****. 

** *** ** **** subsidized **** ** **** they ***** **** *-***'* globally, *** **** **** 10k *** * *****, don't *** ***** *** entire **** ******** ***** flip ***? * **** everyone *** ***** ******** on ****, *** **** is **** ** ******* of * ******* **** is ***** ** **** a **** *********. *** point **** ** **** the *** ** **** to **** *** *** cost, **** ******* ******** because ** *** *************** ***** ** **** from ***** *****, ***** ******* ** be *** ******* ****, which * ****** *** some ****** **** ******* (an ********** **************.) ********* are ****** ** *** because ** *******/***** *******, and ******* ** *** like ******** **** **** because ** *** *******. I *********** **** ** Hik *** ********* ****** to ****, ******, *** others, **** ***** ***** be *******, ***** *** 3. *** **** ***** also **** *** **** level ** ******** **** say, ******* *** ******** that ***** **** **** few ***** **** *** list ** ********* ************* integrators **** ***, *** to ***** ****** **********, and ******* ********** ******** flaws. *** *****, **** would ** ******* **** the *** ****. 

*** ****** **** *** popular ** ***** ***** and ***** *****. ***** quality ** ****-*********, *** doesn't ************ *** **** apart **** *** ****. What **** **** ***** is *****, ** *******, and ** *** *****. They *** **** ********* with ********* **** *** 2nd ******* ******** ***** in *** *****, *** Chinese ****. ***'** *** wrong, *** **** ** a **** ****** ***** ******* over. 

*****'* ** ******** **** China ********** ********* ***. I'm ****** **** **** Hik ** * ********** company **** *****'* ******* any *********.

*: **** ****** ****** ***** “government *********” ** $*** million (*** ¥*.** *******). You **** **** **** Hikvision **** *** ******* government *********. *** *** explain?

**: **** **** ************** *** credit ********** (**** ******-****** Bank ** ***** *** example) ** ********** *********, which ***** *** ** further **** *** *****. I **** ********* **** issue **** *****. ** is **** **** ***** is * ******* ** the ****** ****** (**** 172) ***** ***-********* ****** that ********** **** ******* as “********** *********.” **** section *** ******* ** do **** *** ****** facilities. **** * ******* examination ** *** ******* reveals **** *** ******* listed ** **** *******, are, ** ****: ******** VAT *** *******; ***** government ********** ******** ** businesses (********* *******-***** **********) that ******* ********** *** economic ***********; ******** *** rebates *** ***** **** as ***** ************ *** other ************* ***********; ***, amortization ** ******** ******* to ********* ********* ** make **** **** ***********.

**** ******

****'* * ****

******, **'* * ****** loan, *** * ******* commercial ****. **'********** ** *** **** I ****** **.

*** ***** ** ****** ***** are ** ****** ********* interests. ***** **** ********* is **** ** *** Chinese **********, ** ** understandable *** ** ** far ********* **** *** type ** ********** **** than *** ** * or ******* ********** ** that ****** **** ** be ****** **** ********. Not *** **** **** policy *****.

* ***** **** * $6 ******* ****, * mean ****, "******** ******* down *** *****."

*** **** ******** ****** on **** ** **** would ** ***** ***** if **** ******* *** with * $**** ****? Even $***? ** ******* from *******, ** $**** handed **** *****, ***********, lottery, ******. 

*** *** ****** ** naive? ** ******* ********** in **** **** ** the *****. *** **** governments **** ***** ************ but *** ***** *** used ** ******* ***** from * ****** *** give ** ** *** affiliated ************.

**** ***** "************ *****" *********? ** *** lying ** **** ******* fakes?

******, ***** *** ***** to ******* ** ** 'a ****', **** **** you ******* **** * policy **** **, *** you *** ** ******* it ** ** ********* everywhere ** **** **** of *** ****.

**** *** *** ******** with **** ********:

  • *** ******* ** ******** for **** '**********'. ******* me. **** ******** ** another ******* ***** ************ manufacturer **** * **** from * ****** ****. You ***'* *** ***.
  • **** ** ** *** 'everywhere ** **** **** of *** *****', ** would ***** ** * subsidy, ***** *** *** original ***** *** **** objecting **.

** *** *** *********,Hikvision's *** ********** *** **'* * *******. Just like Jeffrey says CETHIK is just one of their diverse shareholders, contradicting their own financials where CETHIK is clearly listed as the controlling shareholder, he's taking the same deceptive tactic for the subsidies.

*. ****'* * ***** time **** * ***** the **** "****** ****". English ** ** ***** language, ** * **** learning ***** ***. * googled *** ***** ****'* find ******** ******* ** what *** **** ******* about. ****** **** *** just **** **** ********** by ********. *** *********.

*. **** ***** ** strange if ******* *** ********* other CCTV *******. * ********** that * *** ** Americans are **** ** ******** flowers *** **'* **** to ******* **** ***** is *** ****, *********** is *** ****, ***** governments *** ***** ********* resources ** ******* **********, owned ** ***** ********* leaders, ***. *** ******* government *** **********. * thought *** *** ****-********* hysteria back ** **'* *** it ***** **** ***'** still ******. ****** ***** hunt?

*. ***** ****** *****? Yes. ****? ***. ****? From ******** ******** *********** - no. ** ** * unique ****? **.

* ***'* **** ** support **** ****-*** (****-*********?) paranoia. ** ****'* **** a digital ********* ***** * don't **** ** ** a **** ** *** discussion *** *** ****.

****** **** *** **** made **** ********** ** yourself

***, **. ****** ***** / ****** ******* ** an ******** **** ** that *****, *.*., ********* in ********** ** ***** ********* ****.

* *** ** ********* are **** ** ******** flowers *** **'* **** to ******* **** ***** is *** ****,

***, *****. **'* *** that ** ***'* ******* it. **'* **** ** strive *** ********. ******* makes **** ** ******** but *** ****** **** fairness ** ******** *** must ** ******* *** remains.

*** **** ***** $****

** *** ** **** subsidized **** ** **** they ***** **** *-***'* globally, *** **** **** 10k *** * *****, don't *** ***** *** entire **** ******** ***** flip ***? 

* ***** **** ********** is * ****** ****** but * *** **** point. *** ** ***** is **** ** *** complaining **** ** **** compete **** *****, *** our ******** ** ** tarriff ***** ** *** to ***** *** ******* field? *** ******** ** my *******. ** **** a **********, *** **** 2 ****** ******* * race. * **** *** and * *** **** is **% ****** . The **** *** ********* that ** ****** ** able ** ***** ******* down *** *****. ** the **** ********** **'* the ******. ***** *** really ** ***** **** you *** ******* ** this **** ** ****? That ** *** **** trade ** **** *** say ** **.

** ** ****** **** to ******* **** ****** competitors, **** ** ******* have ** ******* ** try ** **** **** to **** **** ** their *** ****. **** i ****, ****** *** to ** *** ***** more *** ******* *** slightly ****** *****. ** let *** **** **** in *** ****** ************* for *********** ** ****** things **** **** ********* with *** *******, *********, etc.which ***** ***** * revival ** *************.

**, ** *** ******** to ** **** ** have **** ***** ***** is **** ******** ***** it.

 

 

****, * ******** **** your ********** **** *** is ***** **** *** because ** ***** ********* structure. * **** ******* that **** ************ ** a ******** **** ****** them ** ***** *******. Look ** ********. ****, if *** *** **** owned **** ** *******, Im ****** ******* **** still wouldn't ** **** *****. 

*'* *** **** ** engage ** ***** ***, but **** ******* ** a **** ** ************.

** **** *******, ********* is *** *** ******** partway **** *** *****. To *** **** ** hundreds ** ******** ** dollars ** ********** *********, ****$* ******* ** "******" **** *** **********.

** ** **** ** have *********** ***** **** market ********* *** *** that, ****, *** ** least ******* *** *****.

********, *** **** ** tariffs ** *** ***** relevant ***** ******* ** Chinese-made ******** ******** ****** reality. * ***'* ***** they're **** ***** ********* considered.

*** *** *********** ** all. * ****** ***** are **** * *** choices **** ** **** to *******:

#*) ******* ** *** same ******* ***** **** subsidies **** ***** ******* a ************* **********
#*) ******** *** *** to **** * *** where *** ***** ** the ******* ******** *** slightly ****** ****. ************* aside, ***** ** * great ******* ** * company *** *** ******* this, ***** *** ******, and ** * *** contender ******* **** **********. 
#*) *** ******** ** goods ** "*****" *** playing *****
#*) ******** ***** **

** ***** *** *** other ******* ** ** made * ***** **** to **** ****, *** I **** **** *** I **** **** ** #4 *** * *** tell *** ***** ******** not ***** ** ****** to ********. ********?

 

* ********** *** *********, as *** *** **** I *** ********* *** my ***** ******. * agree **** ***** **** Tariffs ***** **** ***** here *** * ********* if **** *** *** point *** **** ***** for ** **** ****. 

* **** ***** **** Ethan **** ** ********* that *** ****** *** head *****. *** ********* that *** ****** *** HGH ***** ****** *** race, ** *** ******* scooter ** ***** **** down *** *****. ***** manufacturers ***** ****** *** the ******* ** *** Security ********, *** ***** hasnt **** *** *****. 

****** *** **** ********** in *** ***** ********, I **** **** *** any ** ** *** debate *** **** *** cons ** *** ******* being ****** ** ****. These *** ******* *** a **** ** *** buckets ******** ** ***** already ** ***** **** China. **** **, *** Trade ******* **** ***** and *** ** ** enormous, *** ***** ** be ********* ***** *** substantial **** ** ******** power ***** *** ******** over *** **** ****** decades. ** * ***** that *** ** ***** more ********** *** **** needs ** ******* *** R&D ********** ** ** can *******, **********. *** the ***** **** *** isnt * ***** ** US *******, *** * China ** *** ******** Industry *******. 

******* ** *** **** yourself **** **** ******* of *** *******.

**** *******? ***** *** no ******* ** ******* any ****..

** * **** ******, you *** ******* ** well **** **-**% ******. When *** ****** ***** 100$, *** **** ******* well ****** ***% ****** it's ***** ******* ** at ***. *** ******* is **** ***** ** allways ******* ***'* ******* to **** **** ***** margins.. *** ******* *** fine, *** ***** ** very ****** ****** **** in *** ***. *** if *** **** ** go **** *** *** something ** *********...?

********* *** ************ ***** it **** ****** *** us ** **** * decent ****** ** ***** products ** ****** ** freely ********* ** ********. 

* ******* **** ******* might **** ******** ****** the *****.. **** ** mind **** **** ** the ******* * ********** costs ********* ******* ***-***$ /hour

   * ** ********** here ******* ** ** experience **** * ***. We **** **** **** vacation ** **** *** refrigerator/freezer ****. ** *** the ********** ****** ******, not * *** ***, come *** ** ******* the ** **** *** unit. **** **** '******* to ******* **** ** repair, ****** ** ***** $500 *** *** ***** how **** ** **** last.' ** * *** what *** ***** **** no ******** ( * am ****** ** *** haggling **** * $***) and **** ******* *** brand *** ******* ** the **** ********** ******* side ** **** **** we ***** ****** *** guess ****? ** ** no ***** **** *** same ******* ** ************* as *** ** **** old **** ** ********. It ****** **** **** less energy *** ** *** open ***** ****, * get ** **** ** making ***** ****** ** all ***** ** *** day *** *****, ***** having ******* ****** ** late ***** **** ***** on *** *****. * ******** about ** *** ** have ******* *** ** fix *** *** *********. It *****'* **** ***** to *** ******* *** volume ** *** *** gone ****. ***** * need ** ******** **** forcefully ** ***** * letter ** ********** ********. This ****** **** **** the *** & ***!

 

   ** ***** ** that **** ****** *** less ******** **** **** are **** **** ** every *** *** ******** at ********* ***** ****** with ********* ********** & qualities *** **** *** manufacturers **** ** **********. They ***'* **** ************* with ***** ******* ***** will ***** ****** **** for * *** ******* dollars ** *** *** Inc. *** **** ***** on *** ******** ** this *** *** ** anyone ******** ** ******* that ******* ** *** one?

**** **** ** ***** was **** * ******* with * *** **** MFG ********, ******* ***** care ** * ** longer ********** ********** * quality ** *****, **** another **** **** *** past **** **, ************ or ******. ** ** a ******* *** ****** a ***** *** ******* our *********** ******* *** free ****** *** ***** tariffs ** ******* ** products ** * ****** marketplace. *** ******* ***** is * ***** ******* of ****** ******** ********* although *** ** *** same ***** ** *** Hikvision ********** *********/********* **** we *** **** ** much ***** ****...  

 * ******* ** *** one ******, ****** ***** one *****, ***** *** God, *** *** **** valued ************* ***.

***** *** **** ****. This ***** ***** ****** on ***** **** **** 'hate' *** ******* ** they *** ***** ****** just **** ** ******** and * **** **** to ******* ***** ******, government ***********, ***.

*****'* * ***** ********** between "******" *** ******* as * ****** *** disagreeing **** ****** **** the ******* ********** *** its **** **. ********** the *** ** ********* a ****** *** ******* Communist ***** **** ** deflect *********. 

** ******, ** **** detractors *** *** *** over *** ***** ****** violations ** ***** ** an ****** *** ** buy ********* *** ***** living ** *** *** never **** * **** to *** **'* ** thousands of ******** ******, ***** many *** **** ******** that ****** *** ** and ***** **** ***** want ** **** *** headlines ***** ***** ****** in ***** ***** ** horrible. ****'* * ***-***, people ***** **** ** the *** *** ***** violated ********. * **** the *** *** ** are *** ******* *** do ** **** *** right ** **** ********* for * ******* **** has **** ****** ***'* of ***** ****** **** the ***.

* **** ** *********** that *** ** *** Hanwha ** ***** * 100 ******* ****** ***** in ********* ******* *** COMMUNIST *****, (***** **** companies *** ****** ***** by *** **********, *** just *********) ** * no **, *****. *** China **** *** ******** in *** ******* ***? 

* ***** ******* ** say **** **** ** 're-aligned' in **** ******* ** blame *** ******* *** of ****** ***** **** at ********* ** ****.

* ***'* ***** ****** here ** **** "*****" the ******* ******, *** thats **** ***** ** assume **. "*** *******" ******** to **** ** **** means **** *** ******* Manufacturers, *** ** ******* The ******* ****. ***** off **** **************, **** now ***** (*) ****** on ***** **** ***'* hate *** *******, *** (1) *** ** ***** (4) **** ********* **** the *********/******* **** ******** practices.  

***** ** ** *******, that ** *** *** it ** *********. ***** society ** *** *** USA. **** **** ***** way ** **** *** way. **** ** ****** does *** **** **** wrong. *** ** ******* thats **. 

**** '****' *** ******* as **** *** ***** beings **** **** ** citizens

*, *** ***, **** bad *** **** ** the ******* ****** ****** of *****. ***** ***** the ******** ** ******** of **** ****** *** taken ********* *** *** oppressive***** ****** ***** ********* ********** *** other ********* ***** ******* get ********** ****.

"* ****** ******** ***** have **** **** **** subsidies", ****** **** * true ********* *** ******* government ***********. 

* **** *** *** anyone ***** **** **** as ************ **** *****. I **** **** ********** what *** ***** ** complaining **, *** * clear **** ** ****** if * *** ** and **** * *******. I *** ******** * suggestions ** **** * way ** *******. ** u **** * **** solution?

** * **** * real ********?

*************, ** ***** **** tariffs *** *** **** option ***** ** ** outright ***.  ******* *** essentially * *** ** the ****** *** ***** otherwise *** * ******* ******* product ** ** **** have * *********** ********.  It **** ********** *** goal ** ******** *** playing ***** ****.

**** ********** ** **** other ************* *********** ********* security *********.  *** ***** most **** **** **** that ** **** *** money ** ** ** does *** ******** ******.  The ******** ** ********* negative ******* *** *********, at ***** ** *** US.  

****** ***, *** ******** in ******* *** **** pay *** ******** ***** for * ******* ** tariff.  **** * ******* it ** ****** *** amongst *** ********, **** a ****** ** ******* only *** ******** *** purchase *** *******.  * believe ******* *** *** best *********** ************** ** ****** ********* simply ******* *** ******** is **** *******.  *** the ******* ***** ** its *** ****** ******* *****.

**** ****** ********* *** setup ********* ** ******** China ** **** ********* (try) ** ***** ************* costs ******** ** ***** own.

*** ** *** ***** was *** ******* ** Korea *** ******** ** China, **** **** ** Korea, *** **** **** customers ** **** ** Korea.

*** *** **** **** had ******* *&* ***** meant **** ******* *********** was ***** **** ** China.

***** **** *** ***** still *** **** ******* companies ***** *** ****, which *'* **** **** IPVM ******* **** ********** will **** *** ***** of.

#*, ******, ****** ***** is * ***** *** Korean ************* ** **** more ************* ******* ** China *** **** *******, e.g.******* ** **** $*.* billion **** ********** *********,******* ***** ******* *** $3bn ********** *******

*********** ***** ** **** Hanwha *** **** ******* from ***** *** *** statements **** ***** ** another ****.

*********** ****** ** **** of *** ********** ********** here. ** ** *********** as * **** ** the *** *****, * have * ******* ********* stance ** ******. **** is ***:

*. **** ** *** approach *** ******* **** the ****** ** * big, **** ********* ****** in *** ** *** strongest ********* ** *** world. ** * ***** market/poorer ****** *** ******** is *** * ****** whether ** *** * Chinese ****** ****** ** a ***** *** **** Korea/USA/Canada ***. (***** **** you *** ****** ****). Here *** ******** ** whether ** *** ******* or *** ** *** at *** (******* *** can *** ****** *** latter *******). ** ***** words *** ******* ************* made ******** *** ** to ****** ****** *** market *** **** *** customers ***** *** **** unable ** ***** ***** such ******** ** *** past. ** **** * solid ******** ******** **** of *** **** *** years ******* ** ****. Thanks ** *** ******* companies **** ****** **** more ********** *** ********** with *** *** ******** for *** ******* ******** of *** ******* ****** and *** ******* ** general.

*. * **** **** in *** **** ******** for **** ** ***** by *** *** * remember ***** * *** of ***** **** *** big ************* **** *****, USA, ******, ******, ***** have **** ****** **** ******* ******* old ********** *** ******** chips ** ** ********** high *****, ****** ** disguising **** ** "************ equipment". **** **, **** 6-7 ***** *** *** were ******** *** ******** and *** ** ******* at **** *****, ******** as *** ****** "**** is *** ************ ******", not ** ******* ***** laughable ********** **** *.*** is *** ******** *** security ************. **** **** unable ** ******* *** the ** ****** ************ buyer ****** ***** ** the ***** ** *** a *-* ***** *** technology. *** **** **** for *****, ** *** others ******* ******** ********** to *** ***. ***, it *** * **** time *** ****, *** I ********** *** ****** of ******, *** *****, this ** **** *** (fortunately). *** * ***'* have ** ****** *** to ******* ** *** customer *** * ** offering *** ** * high ***** * ******* with ** ***** ********** than *** ***** *********...

*** *** **** ***** - *** **** ** the ****** ** ***** of ******* ** ****** a *** ***** ****, but ****** ****** **** the **** ** *** technology ************ ***** **** came *****. *** ******* were **** ** ******* the ******* ***** ************, releasing *** ******** *** new ************ ************. *** old ********* ***** **** done *** ****, *** they ***** ** ***** to *** *** **********, high ******* *** ****** marketing *****.

*. ********* *** ********* side ** *** ********** - ** ****** ***** that *** **** ****** it ** **** ** figure *** **** ***** *** be other *****-********* ******* ** existence **** *** *** they **** **. *** also, ** ******* ********** mentioned, ***** *** **** countries ** *** ***** that **** **** ** existence *** **** **** years, ** ***** *** certain ********** ******* *** explanations *** ***** *********** and ******* *********. ****** to ****** **** *****-********* and ******** ****** ** others ** *** **** and **** ***** *** is *** * **** thing (** ******* *** some ****** ***** ****, I *** ******* ****** examples...cough...hint - ****** ****?). The ********* **** *** goverment ********* ** ***-********** in ** ****. ***** of ** ** * shareholder, **** ** *** shareholders ** ***** ********* control *** *******'* ********, and ********** * ***'* think *** ********** ** this **** ** ***********. I **** ***** ************* with * *********** ****** of ******* ********* - and, ** **** *** not *********, ******* ** brainwashed. I **** **** ** China ******* ***** *** no, **** ** *** some ********* ********* *******. Someone ***** *** *** the **** ****** ** China ***** ********* ********** is ******* ******, **** * feel *** *** *** more *** **** **** people ** *** *** are ******** *** **** the ****** *****, ***** the **** *** ****** using *** ****** *** cuts... ** *** **** has ****** *** ***** :)

* ** **** ** Hong ****, ***** ** China.

** **** ** *****, Chinese ******** ******* ********, sloppy ********/******** ** ************* breakdown ***** *-****** ** time ** ***. (*** making **** **)

***** *** ************* ********* statement ** *** *** "not ****** **** **".

******* *** ** *** increasing ***** ******* ************* base ** **** "****** the ********".

** * *** *** Hanwha ****** (*** *******) it ******* **** **** of *** ********* ***** are ***** ** *** Asian ********* ** ******* and ****** ********* ** racist. **** * *****.

* ****** ** ********** were **** ********* ******* and "*** ***** *******" that ************ ********** ******** totally ********* **** ******* IP ****. ****'* *** reason **** ****** ** stopping ***** *** ******* name ** ***** ** no *********.

****** **** *** *********** TVs, **********, ****** ***. If *** **** * reference ** **** **** you *** *** ***** your ********, * **** in **** ******** *** quite ******* ***** ** sound **** *** *** foolish. * *** **** wonder **** **** ***** pitches *** ****.

*** ***'* *** **** to **** *** ***** shall **?

**** *** **** * years ** * ****** (Samsung) ***, *** ** the ********* ** ** Cameras **** *** *********, only *** ******* *** occurred, *** **** *** an ******* *****. * don't ******* **** **** Manuf *** **** **** claim. ** *** **** an ******** *** *** have *********** *** **** results. **** *** ******* with ********* ** ***** own ********** ********. ** addition, ** **** ****** received ********* ****/******** ******* from  ****. * **** don't ****** ****** ****** a "********" ******* **** their *******.

** **** **** ** ISC **** * ***** several *********** * *** if **** **** *** Hikvision ******* **** *** those **** ******** *** all ********* **** ** was ******* **** **** cheap, **** *********, **** bottom ******* ***. *** there *** **** * handful ** ******** ************ that *** **** *** value ****** **** *** price? ****'* **** **** really ***** **** ** here. *** *** ** the ***** ************* **** come *** **** * product **** *** **** expensive ** *** **** 3-4 *****, *** ***, I ** ******* ** was ** **** ** the ********* ***** ** the ******. *** ***** that *** **** *** with * **** ********* product ********** (***** ***) their ******* ******* ***** dropping *** ***** *****.

*'** **** ***** **** Security *** *** **** 40 ***** ***, ** an *********, ******* ****, company *****, ***. ***. and *** ** ** Engineer/Estimator *** * ***** Integrator. * **** ****** maintained **** **** ******** above *** ******, ***** to ** ********** ********, honest, **** **** ******* people *** ****** ** earn *** ***** ** any *** *** *********.

******* **** ** *** comments *****, *'* *** too **** **** * could ** **** **** all *** ******.

********* ******: ****** *** not **** ********* *** interview *** **** **** cited*** ******** ****** ** the ********* ** ***** own *******.

*** ********* *** *** confusion ***** ******'* **** in **** *** *** assumption **** ***** ******** published *** *** ******** work (**** **** ****** parts ** ** **** Hanwha). *** ***** ******* it, ** *** ***** unclear.

******** ******* *** ********* support ** *** **** problem ** ****** ** don't ***** ***** *** of ****** **** ****** with ** **. **** sold *** **** **** again, *** ****?..*** * am ********* ****** **. Axis, *** *** ** Dah. ** ** ****** their ******** ** ***** MSRP ****** *** * mistake ****, *** **** are **** ********* **** Axis ** **** *****. Will *** ** *** end ** **** **** in ******* *** ****** position :) * ** curious ****

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