FLIR Launches Saros
By: Sean Patton, Published on May 01, 2018
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Comments (34)
Undisclosed Integrator #1
I hope they have addressed the auto gain bug that caused unneeded false motion alarms in their TCX thermal since they are using the same imagers. They refused to address it in the TCX even when told directly with a tech support ticket and sent actual video of the bug.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
This reminds me of the AOL - Time Warner merger. It too, looked good on paper.
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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Brian, the ticket number was #662947. The problem was confirmed by tech support and a few things were tried to no avail. It was closed after no solution was available. It did go up the chain to the Product Management team, but no new information was either given or came up with. The auto gain would randomly glitch, causing an abrupt change in the whole picture scene, setting off the motion alarm. We had to redesign what we were going to use this camera for and ended up having to use something else and "eating" the camera.
Glad to see that it doesn't share anything with the TCX, you probably won't have the same problem. A firmware update that would have fixed the TCX would have been nice though.
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Jon Dillabaugh
05/01/18 03:11pm
So why do then need both 940nm and white light IR? You want to have both super covert and super overt? Seems silly.
In the article it mentions using the white LEDs for color images at night. If that's the goal, why include the 940nm?
On the contrary, if the goal is covert 940nm IR, why would you ever turn on the white LEDs and blow your cover?
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Brian Karas
Good question, still working on final firmware optimizations, but it is pretty short. Because we are controlling the illuminators, we can also adjust the exposure settings much more quickly and accurately, as we know the white-light LEDs are going to be coming on, and about how bright they are. This is different from scenarios with external illuminators where it takes several seconds for the camera to recognize that the scene suddenly got a lot brighter, and then begin to react.
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Brandon Knutson
Pretty darn cool.
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Oscar Gamez
Mobotix should have been included in this article since it is also used in Remote Guarding, perimeter protection market.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
The comment in the report that "FLIR expects the price to be in the low to mid $2,000’s", is that a street price or MSRP?
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
"And that competitive risk for FLIR may increase if or when low-cost providers like Dahua or Hikvision can mature their deep learning offerings."
This seems to imply that AI/machine learning could add huge value to low cost equipment, with technology maturity.
No wonder Hik/Dahua bet all their chips on AI.
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Rodney Thayer
so this is an arecont/hikvision mashup with north american prices. ok... customers want smarts in their cameras and customers who want that don't choke on camera prices north of a YFS. Um... goes on the list with all the others?
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Undisclosed #7
They may have a problem trademarking the name:
"Crestron, the Crestron logo, and Saros are either trademarks or registered trademarks of Crestron Electronics, Inc. in the United States and/or other countries."
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Lasse Sørensen
Is the camera fixed, or is the eye-ball adjustable? pan, tilt? It dosnt seem to be much space to tilt camera without covering IR/LED/Lens
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