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*********** ***** ********* ***** to ***** ******, *** by * ******* ******, with ******** **** ******* gaining:

******* ** **** *******, with ***** ** **%, and ******** ******* *********** mention:

Key ******
***** *** ***** *** trends ** ***** *** in ***** *******:
- ***** *******:****** ***** ******* * preferred *****, ***** *** fallen **** **% ***** our **** ******, **** 37% ** **%. **** ** this *** ** ********* for ** *** ********* ** ******** and *-****, *** ****** which *** *** ******** previously.
- ******** *** *-**** ******:********'* ***** *** ******* lines **** ******, **** ~10% ** *********** ******** them, while *-**** *** ****** to ~*%. **** ******** only * *** ***** (2-3%) ** **** *****.
- ******* *** ** *******:****** *** ***** ******* Netgear *** ** ********** similar ******* ** ******** polls, **** ******* ********** slightly *** ** ********** slightly.
Main ****** *** *** *****: *****
***** ***** *** ***** down *** **** ****** reason *** ******** ******** other **** *****, ****** nearly *** ***** ****** mentioned. ***** **** ******** (remote ******, ********, *** reliability) **** ********* ************ for ******, ***** *** overwhelmingly *** ******** ******.
Cisco: ******* *****, *** ***** #*
***** **** **** **% from *** **** *******, down ** **% **** 37%, seeming ** ***** **** due ** ******* ****** Ubiquiti *** *-**** *******. Integrators' **** ****** ******* for ******** ***** ******** similar ** **** *******: reliability, *******, *** **** recognition ** ******** ** departments.
- "***** ***** ******** **** because ** *** ******** with *************, ******* ** stock, **** **** ***********, and ******** ** *********** prefer ***** ********. ***** higher ******* **** ** rarely * ******** ** project ****."
- "*****. ****'** ********, *** terribly *********, *** **** have ********* *** ************. Also, ****'** **** ** get ******** ** *** customers' ** ***********."
- "***** - **** ***** brand. **** ** *** cisco ** *** ********* IT ***., **** **** that ** *** ********** a **** ******* *******."
- "*****. **** ****** *** the **** *** **** reliable. *** ***** **** thing ** ** *** can’t ******** * ******* in *** *** ** easily *******."
- "*****. ***% ********, ******* product *** ***** **** an ***** **** *** units ** ***. ********** else **** *** **** for *********** *** *********."
- "***** ******* * **** lots ** ********** **** them *** **** ***** lots ** ******** **** an **** ** ********** interface"
- "***** *** ******. *** cheap *** ********* *** what ** ****. * like *** ** *** a *** ***+ ***** on ****. **** ****** or ******."
- "***** - ****** ******* set *** ******* ******* line *********. ************ **** quality ******* *** ********* that ** ***********."
- "***** - ********** *** looks **** ** * quote!"
*** **** ****** ***** switches *** ************ *** the***************, ***** * ******* switches, ********* ** *-** port ******, **** ***.*** options. ***** ******* (* cameras *** *****) *** also *** ****** ****** "*****" ************ **** ********** ********, but **** ******* *** budgets.
Still #* *** #* -******* *** **: ***** *******
******* ***** ** ** second **** ****** **** a ****** ******** ** integrator ********** (*** ****** drop *** **). *********** cited *** ****, **** performance, *** ******** ******** as ***** **** ******* for ***** *******.
- "******* "*****" ********. *****/*********** is ******** *** *** markets. ** ***'* **** many ****** *** **** offer * ******** ********. Used ** **** ** go ******* ******* ***** process ** *** ***'* but **** ******* ** to ****** *** *** the * ** * times * **** ** need ** *** ** works ****. * *** "like" ***** ******** ****** from * ******* ******* set (** *****, ********) but **** *** ****** worth *** ***** *******."
- "******* *** ***** ** medium ********. **** ****, few ********, **** ***** for **** ******* *** managed ******** **** *** a ***** *** *** smb. ********* ** *** needed *****."
- "******* ***** ** **** well *** ** *****."
- "******* ******* **** *** reasonable *** **** *** had *** ****** **** them."
- "******* ******** *** **********"
- "******* ** *****"
*******'* **/** ***** ********* **/** ******* ******** have **** ********** ******* in ************, **** *** management *** ***+ ********.
** **** **** ****** to ***** ******* ** our ****** ******, ****** ~4%. ** ** **** surveys, ***** ******** ** cited ******** ******** ** lower ***** **** *****.
- "**, ***** ****. ******** has *** ** *** features *'** **** ****** on ***** *** ********** systems *****, ***** ******** carry * ******** ******** (even **** *** ****'* the ******** *****), **** have ***** ******** ******* for *** *** ***** I've ****** ** - even ** *** ****'* factory ******* / *********, and ***** ******** *** very ************* ******. **** win ** ***** ********."
- "*** *** ******* ********. Right *****/***** ******, ********** and *** ***** *** needs, **** **********, ******** warranty ****** ********** *** industrial ***. **** *****/********** versatility, ***** ********** ******* but **** ** *** field."
- "** ********. *'** **** Cisco *** ******* *********** also *** * ***** HP ***** * ***** balance ******* ********, **** of ************* *** *********** price. ** *** ****** projects ** ********* *** 2520 ****** ******** ** the **** ***'* *** 5400 *** ****** ** the ****"
- "**, *. **** ****** and ********** ************* ******** to ***** *** ****** such ** ***** *. Easy ************* ************. ****,****,************ and *** *** ** and ******* *. ************ is ******* ** *****. No ******* **** ***** for ********"
- "** ******, ******* ************* and ********** ** ***** but * *** **** money. ***** ** **** stuff *** *** *** a *** *** ***** 5 *******. ** **** has * ******* ** its *******"
- "** *** * *** of ** ********, ************ the **** ******. ****'** affordable *** ****** **** issues."
***** ****/**** ******* ********** ** **** ******* in ************.
#4 - ******** *****
*** ******* ****** ** our *******, ******** ****** to *** ***** **** ******** in the **** *******. *********** ******* to **** ** *************/********** and *** ***** ** main *******:
- "** **** ** *** a *** ** ******** switches *** * **** migrated ** *** ******** switches *** ****** **********. They *** ****-********* **** good ***********, *** **** to ******."
- "********, ******** **** ** configure *** *** ******** priced."
- "******** ***** **** ** my ******** *** ** low **** *** ***** based ****** *************."
- "******** ** *** ***** Wireless ****** ****** *** have *** *** ***** controller. ***** *******. **** works!"
- "********, ***** ********* & has **** ******** *** PoE."
********'* ***** **** *********** ****** **** *-** ports, *** ***** ********** integrated **** ********'* ******** and ******** ******** **** a ****** *********.
******** *** **** * relatively **** / ****** entrant, *********** ***** ***** switch ***** (***********) **** ***** **** years ***, *** *** expanded ** *** ********** and ***** ***** ** *** past *** *****. **** expansion, ********* ******** **** *********** for ******** **********, ****** ******** *** Ubiquiti's **** ** ********.
#5 *-**** ********
*-**** **** ****** ***** in **** ******, ****** from ***** *% ** ~7%, **** *****, ******* options, *** ************ **** IP ******* ** *******.
- "*-**** *** **** *** of ** ******** **** because *** ***** *** the ******** ******* (****** port ***** ************ **** their *** ***** ********) is **** ** *****."
- "*** ******* ***/** ******** installations ** *** *-****. There ** ******* ************** in *-**** *** **** work **** **-****** ****."
- "*-**** **'* **** ** use, **** **** ***** unmanaged *** **** ******* and ***** ******* ********."
- "*-****. ** *** * price ********* ******* ***** rewards ******* *** ***** is * ***** ** Customer ********* ** *** brand **** ******* ** the ******* *******."
*-****'* ******** ****** ************ ********* ********* ** ONVIF *******, **** ********, and ****-**** ******** *** surveillance *******.
TrendNet *******
*******, ******** ******* ********** steady, ******** ******** ** ~5%, ****** ************* *** capabilities.
- "********. **** *** **** affordable *** *******. ** several ***** ** ***** them * **** ***** had ** *****."
- "** ****** *** ******** and *** ****** ** that *** ********* ** suppliers"
- "********, ******** & ********** cost."
********'* ***+ ********* **** ******* ***** those ********** *** *****.
Future *******
***** ** ***** ****** results *** ******* ******, we ****** **** ***** cost *********, ** ********** Ubiquiti, ** ******** ** increase ***** *****. ** contrast, ********** **** ** Cisco, *******, ** ** have *** ********** *****/****** to ******* **** ***** lower **** *******, * likely ***** ** **** integrators ******** *****.
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Undisclosed Integrator #1
"HP, hands down. ...great customer support for the few times I've needed it - even if you aren't factory trained / certified, and their products are very competitively priced."
That's interesting, because that's contrary to what I have heard from Cisco in the past where they said if you buy one of their switches for resale and you are not an authorized Cisco re-seller, they said they would not support you they would require the distributor you're buying from (CDW for example) blacklist you and not sell you anymore Cisco switches.
For integrators selling Cisco switches, I'm curious how many are Cisco certified resellers, and if not, when they call Cisco for support does Cisco ask them where they got the switch form and does their distributor know the integrator is buying it for resale.
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Undisclosed Integrator #1
As for the Ubiquiti switches, do dealers not think that if they put that on quotes eventually customers may say to themselves, "If they using some so common and easy to get as Ubiquiti, then I'll just go online and buy them myself and probably install them myself, so they can cut that out of the quote."
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Andile Radebe
Hi all
I'm a corporate end user based in South Africa. We are very prone to lightning , especially in the summer season. We have found that putting an IP device, i.e. camera, on top of a pole somewhere in the field and then connecting it back a regular corporate level, e.g. Cisco 3850, is not a wise exercise.
We've gone the route of using in field PoE injectors with either Ethernet to fiber converters or smaller 4\8 Port Industrial switches in the field with fiber backbones to our internal core.
This minimizes hardware replacement costs when lightning strikes one of our field IP devices as usually, we may lose the IP end point and PoE injector but the industrial switches tend to take a hit or two before total failure.
Interesting to hear on makes and models of ruggerized or industrial switching units that installers use and recommend , specifically when it comes to difficult environments that are lightning prone.
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Michael Fusco
Never heard of a network switch ruggedized to interdict lightning.
We use lightning arrestors or fused surge protectors on the ethernet cable so that in the event of a lightning or external surge on the network cable or device, the fuse opens after the switch. Below is a link for an example
http://www.itwlinx.com/products/surgegate-modular-communication-protectors/cat6-75-op
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Walter Holm
My opinion: None of them address multicast very well. Avaya VSP is/was far superior and made by the same hardware manufacturer as Juniper and Cisco (so assembly quality is good). Extreme has bought the Avaya VSP networking business but they are keeping VSP only at the core, which for a core network design is a great idea but their edge switches are no where near the ability of Avaya's VSP 4k but more importantly to use this technology, it becomes expensive. You could replace a core and with that little guy as it had all of Avaya's SPBm features. On the VSP infrastructure they tested over 15,000 multicast camera streams, didn't even break a sweat and there was no packet loss or quality loss when they pulled and replaced uplinks (the PIM kiss of death). The reason is they don't use PIM! They don't need it.
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Ken Mills
I am the General Manager for Dell EMC for surveillance. What is stopping the folks here from using Dell Networking? Having come from Cisco, Dell has a great value proposition at the edge and edge aggregation layer. You can combine this with vmware's software defined networking solution called NSX that competes at the high end with Cisco for your larger projects where performance is critical. How can Dell earn more of this networking business?
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Chad Rohde
I'm gonna give this discussion, poll, and all commenters a negative Honovich style review. To have Ubiquiti at 10% and no Mikrotik even mentioned or commented on is reason enough to strip the IP from IPVM.
Mikrotik beats all of these hands down if we are considering price and performance.
Cisco's only way of surviving is buying Mikrotik. Never gonna happen. I hope.
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