Most Disrespected Manufacturer Competitors

Author: John Honovich, Published on Jun 01, 2017

Manufacturers told IPVM what competitor they most disrespected.

There was one overwhelming selection that manufacturers felt was harming the industry.

Inside this post, we share the results of the survey and detailed color commentary. (Contrast to the manufacturer most respected results).

************* **** **** **** ********** **** **** ************.

***** *** *** ************ ********* **** ************* **** *** ******* the ********.

****** **** ****, ** ***** *** ******* ** *** ****** and ******** ***** **********. (******** ***** ************ **** ********* *******).

[***************]

Ranking ******

********* ******** **** **** **** ** *** ************ ********** **** Dahua * **** ******** ****** *** ** ********** ***** ***** finisher.

#1 *********

************ *********** ******* ** *** *****-******* ****** ** '**** ** the ******', ********* *** ********** *********.

Race ** *** ******

*** **** ****** ************ ******** *** ***** *** **** ** the ****** / ***** ****:

  • "*********! **** *** *** ******* ** *** **** ** *** bottom *** **** ********* *** ***** ** *** ********."
  • "********* - *** ** ***** ********* *** ***** ******* - "the **** ** *** ****** ** *****""
  • "*********. ***** ***, *** ******** ******* ***** ** *******, *** just ******* ****** ** *********."
  • "*********. **** *** ************ ** ********* *** ****** ***** ******** video ******** ******** *** *** *** *********** *** "**** ** the ******"."
  • "*********, *** ******* ***** ***, ****** **** ***** * ** profit ***."
  • "*********, **** ************ *** ************ ********."
  • "*********. ***** **** **** "**** ******" ******** ** **** *****, they **** *********** ** ******* *** ******* **** *** ********* mindset ** *****, *** ***** ****, ****** *********."

*** **** **** ********* *** ****** *** ******** ***** *** frequently ******.

Subsidies / *****

******* ** **** *** ************'* ***** **** ********* **** ********* / ******* ****** ********* ** **** ************* ***** ****:

  • "********* **** ********** ***** ********* *** **** ** ********** *** industry."
  • "*********. ****** *********** *** ** ******* *******/****** ******* ** ** either ********** ***** ** ******** ** ******** (***) *** ********** low ******* ******* ** ***** ******* ** ****** ******* ***** made ************ ** ********** *********"
  • "*********. ***-**** ****** *******. ***** *******."
  • "* ********** **** *** *** **** **** **** **** ** the ***********. **** **** ****** ********* *** ***** ******** ******** through ********* ******** ** *** ******* **********."
  • "**** ******* * ********* ******* **-**-****** ******** (********* **** ******* of ******* ********** ***********) **** ****** ******* ********* ** ***** dramatically ******* ******* ***** ***** ** **** *** ************* ********** and ************ ******."

Government *********

*********'* ***** ********** ************ ***** ** **** *********, ********* * ****** ** ***** where ** *** ******* ** *** **********'* *********:

  • "*********; ******* **********-***** *** **** ******** ******* *** ****** ******** their ************* *****."
  • "*********- * ** ******* ********* ***** ********** *********. * ** sure **** **** ***** ***** ******** **** ***** ****** **** were ***** *** ** **"
  • "*********. **** **** ********* *** *********** **** *** ******* ** a ********* ******* **********. ********, **** ********** ****** ******** *** western ********* ** *******. ** *******'* ** ******* *** *** most ***** ****."
  • "********* ******* **** **** ** ****** *********** ********* **** ***** government *********."

Lack ** ************

** ******** ** ************* ********** **** ********* *** **** ** the ********* *** ************ *******. **********, ** **** *** *****, is ***** * *** ** **** ******* / ***** **** competitors. ** *** ********, *** *** ************ *********** *** **** of ********** ************* **** *********:

"** * *** ***** *******, * ** ******* **** **** of *** ****** ************* ** *******. ***** *** * ***** hear **** ********* ***** **** ** ******* ** ********."

**** ** ********* *** ********** ** **** ** ***** '******' manufacturers ** ******* **** **** ***** *** **** / *** but *** ***** ** **** ********* *************** *** **** **** in *** ***** *** ** *** ****** ***** ********* *** been ********* ******* ***** *** **** *** **** ********* **** eliminates *** **** ** *** ********.

Distant ****** *****

***** *** * *** ******* ******* **** **** ** ***** mentions ***** ****** ***** ***** *********, *.*.:

  • "********* *** *****. ****...."
  • "********* / *****. ******..."
  • "***** *** ********* , ****..."
  • "** ******* : ***** & *********..."

*** * *** ****** ***** *****'* ******** *********:

"***** - **** ******* ** ********* ******** *********. ******, **** are ****** ******* **** **** ** *** * ********* ** the ******"

"***** ** ******* *** ******** ****** *** *** ******** ***** everyone ***** *** ***"

Risks ** *********

****** ** **** *********** ********** **** ** * ***** **** to *********. ******* ***********, ** ***** ******* *** *** **** travels ** **** *** **** *** *********. ********* ** ********** huge *** *** *** ***** ************* *** ******** *** ***** vastly ****** **** *********, ********** ******* ** *****. ***** ** disrespected ***** **** ***** *********** *** *** **** ****** ** speak ********** ** **** **** ******* ********* ***** *******.

** ******, *********'* *********** **** ***** *** ***** *****.

Risks ** *********'* ***********

*********'* *********** *** ** ***** **** ********* ******* ** *** Chinese ********** ********* *** ** *** ***** ***********, ******** ***** competitors. ** *** *********** *** ***** ** ** ***** *** Hikvision ** **** ** ********** ********* **** ******** *** **** enough **** *** *********** *** ****** *** ** *** *******.

*********, ********* *** ******* ***** ******* ** *********** ***** ******* and ****** ** ********* ***, ******, **** ***. *** *** or ****** ********* ******* ** *** **** ***** *********** ** potential ********? **** ** ** ************ ********* ******** ** ********* tries ** **** ** ****** *************** ***** ******* ******** ** far **** *********** *** ******* *********.

Comments (52)

Undisclosed #1

06/01/17 07:36pm

**** *** ***** ****? ** ****** *** * ****** ** vote ** ****** *******, *** *******.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 06/01/17 07:58pm

** ** *** ** **** ******* ******* ** ***** ***** I **** * ********* *** ******* ***** ****** **** ******. Hik *** ***** *** ********* ********** ** *** ************ ******. Who ** ********** ** **** ****** ** *** **** ***** that ** ***** ******** ******** **** **** ********** ***** ** a ******?

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 06/01/17 08:29pm

*****... *** **** *** *********** **** ***** *** **** ***** with "***** ******** *******".

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 06/01/17 09:26pm

*************, * **. * ** ********** ** ** ***** *** to **** **** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 06/01/17 06:33pm

*** **** *** *********** **** ***** *** **** ***** **** "Lenel ******** *******".

***, *.*.,***** ******** *****, ***** **** *** ****,***** ****** ******* ****. *******, **** ****** *** *** *************, *** *********** ** end *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 06/01/17 06:33pm

** ****** *** * ****** ** **** ** ****** *******

**, ****** *** * ****** ** **** ** ****** ******* though ***** *** **** ************ ********* ** ***** ******* *** more ** **** ** **** **** ****** ******* ****.

* ** *** **** *** ****** ************ ********* ***** ** especially ***** ** ******** ******* ****** *************.

Undisclosed Distributor #2

06/01/17 03:49pm

** ********* ***** **...

Undisclosed End User #4

06/01/17 08:07pm

[**** ****: ****** ** ******, *** *** ********** **** *************** including **** *** *****.]

*** ** *********** ******* ********** **** ******, **** ************* ****, these ***** ********* ************* *** ***** ** ****** ** **** quality: *) ****, *) *********, *) *****.

*'* *** **** ******* ***** ****** *********** ** *************** ***/** backdoors, *'* ******* ***** *** ***** ********** ***** *********** **** of **** ************ ********. ***** *** ** **** **** ************* GNU ******* ****** *******.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

In reply to Undisclosed End User #4 | 06/01/17 11:50pm

** **** ** *** **************** ****** ***** *** *** ******* * ******* ******** ** explain **** ** ********. ** ***** ****** ** ** **** ************** *** *** to ** ******** **** * ************.

*** **** ** *** **** **** ** *** **** ** read ****** *****! **** **** ***** **** **********.

*** ****** ***** **** * ******** ****** *** ***** ***** manufacturer ***** ***** *********! *********, ***** ** **** * ***!

******** *** *** ********* ** * ***** *****.

**** **** ** ****** ** *** ****, **** *** ***** a ******* *** ******, **** ***** *******. **** ** *** spirit ** ***.

* ***** **** *** ***** ** *** ********* ** ***** unacceptable.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 06/01/17 09:21pm

#*, ****** *** *******. *** **** **** ** ** ***** to **** ****** **** *** $**:

** **** ******* *** **** *** ****** **** ** *** software ******** ***** ******* ******* ** *** **** ** * written ******* ** **** ** ***** ** *** ********* *********:

****@******.***

********* *** **** ** *** ******* *** *** ******** ******* for ***** *** **** *** ****** **** *** ********** *** we *** ******* ***.

****** **** **** ** **** *** *** ** *** ** US $ **, *** *** ***** ********. **** ***** ** valid *** ***** ***** **** *** ****** ** *********** *** product.

Undisclosed End User #4

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 06/02/17 05:14pm

******* ***** **** ***!

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Undisclosed End User #4 | 06/03/17 05:04am

*** ******. ** ** *********** ********** **** ** *** *******'* communities **** ** ** ******* ** ***** *** *******? ********** I **** **** **** *** **** **** *** * **** of ****** ** *** ******* *** ******** ***** ****** **** space.

Undisclosed End User #4

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 06/03/17 07:46pm

***** ********, * *** **** ****** *** ******, *** * don't *** *** ****** **********.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Undisclosed End User #4 | 06/04/17 10:18am

**** ** ****. ****** *** **** ***** **** * ***** question. ***** **** ** ************ ** **** *** *** ******* is **** **** ** *** **** ********* **** **** ** Cameras *** ***** ** ** "********** ** ****...".

Thumbnail 21c8c75

Tony Lagan

06/02/17 01:28am

** ********* *** ***** **** *** **** ************* *** *** negative *********?

** ***** ** *********** ** *** **** *** **** ***** other ************* ** * ** **** ***** **** ****** **** were **********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Tony Lagan | 06/02/17 02:05am

** ********* *** ***** **** *** **** ************* *** *** negative *********?

**, ***** **** * ****** ** ***** ******** ********* *** as ********* ** *** ******, "** ********** ***** ***** ********", ******* **** ** *** ***** negative ********* **** **** ********* **** ** **** ********* **** there *** ** ***** ** ******.

** *** **** *** ******** ******** ** ******* ********* ********* ******* / ******** ****' *********, ****** *****:

**** ** *** ************ ******* , **** **** *** *** material ******. ** *** ** *********** ******** *****, ***** ** share *****:

****. **** ******** ** *** ******. **** ******* ******* ** end ***** *** ** *** ***** ********** ** ************ ** make ******* *******. ***** (****'* ******* *********** ** *********) **** and ******* ** *% ***** ****** **** **** ***** ** just *** ****** *** * ***** *** ***** ** ******* profitability. *** ************ **** ******* ** *** **% ***** ******** are ******** *** *** **** ****** *** ***** ********.

** ***** ** ***** **********, ***** ** ***** *** ***** was **** *** ******** *** ******* *** ** *** ** interesting ********* ***-*********:

*******. *** **** ********* ** ** ** *** ****. *** now *** - *** *** **** **** **** ***. ** is ******** **** *** **, ******* ****** *** ** **** close **** ***** *******.

**** ***** ****.

Thumbnail 21c8c75

Tony Lagan

In reply to John Honovich | 06/01/17 10:31pm

****** ****.

Thumbnail newheadshot

Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | 06/02/17 03:02pm

********, * *** **** ***** ********* **. **** ***** * said ** ******* ********** ******, "** *** **** ******* *********** off, *** **** ***** ********* *****"

** **** ******** **** * ******* ************ ***********, ** *** of *** ******* ************* ***** **** **** ********** *********, * can **** *** ***** ****** **. **** *** *** **** just ******* **** **** ** **** **** ** ********, *** I *** **** *** **** ***** ******* ************ *** *** great ******* *** *********. *** *** **** ******* *** **** to ****. **** **** *** ******* ***** ******** "**** ****** does ****, **** **** *********" "** *** ****** *, **** behind ***** *** *********" "**** ****** ******* **** *********" *** etc. ** ***** *****, ********* *** ****** *** *** *** everyone **** ** **** ** ****** ** ***** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/02/17 03:06pm

* *** **** ***** ********* **

*****, * ** *** ****.

*************, ~* ***** ***** ** ******** **** ****, ********* ************ ******* **** ** *, ** ********* ********** ** ***** *** ****** ***** ****.

Undisclosed #7

In reply to John Honovich | 06/02/17 03:56pm

$** **** ********* *********** *** ****** ** ** *** *** ****** *** ******* by ***** *** ****** ************* ******.

** ******* ** **** **** - **** '******** ******* ******' and '*** *******' **** ** ********* ********** **********.

** ******* ** ***'* ******* ******** ** ******* ******* *********** (direct *** ***) **** ***** ******** ***** *** ****.

** ******* ** *** ** '*** ********' ******** ********** ** Hik, ******* ********** *** ******** ** ***** ** '*** ********' lack ** ************* **: ****** ************* ******* *** ***** *** N *******.

****** ******** ************** ******** ******.

*** ********* * ***** ****: *** *** ** ********** ***** like '*** *******' **** * *** ****** **** *** *** also * *******. **** *****'... :)

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #7 | 06/05/17 01:28pm

$** **** ********* *********** *** ****** ** ** *** *** ****** *** ******* by ***** *** ****** ************* ******.

** *** **** ** ** *********, ****'* *** ****.

****, **** ****** **** ********* ******** *** ** ******* ********** press ********, *** * ** ** ******.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/02/17 03:56pm

[****: ************ **** *****]

***** ** ** ************ *** ****** ****. **** **** **** lost ***** ******** **** ***** ******* *** ***** ** ******* against *********** *** **********. *** * ** ** *** *** somwhat **** ******. **** **** *** **** *** **** ***** hikvision ******* **'* *** **** ******* ** * ********* ** China *** ****** ***. ******* ** ******. ********** ** ******** a ********** ** ****** ** *** **** ** *** ****** is *** ********.

*** **** ** *** ***** *** ***** ** ****** ****** in ***** ** ******** ******. ***** **** * ***** ***** they *** *** ****** ********* **** **'* *** * **********.

Thumbnail newheadshot

Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 06/02/17 04:13pm

* **** ** ******* *** *** **** *****. **** *** not **** *** *** *** **** ******* *********, *** **** surely **. **** *** **** *** **** **** *********, *** the ***** ** ******* ** ******* *****. *** **** **** companies ***** **** **** ** ** *** ** **** *********. Then *** **** **** ********* *** *** *** ** *** to **** ********* *** **** ******* **** **** ** * standard ** ** *** **, *** *** **** ******* **** clearly ****** *** ***** ***'* *** **** ****** *******. **** you **** *** ******* ********* *** *** ****** *** ******* than *********, ****** **** **** *** ***** **** ** "** have **** ******* ** ********* *** **** *******" ** ***** words, ********* ** *** ******** ** *****. **** ****** *** bar, ***** ***** ******* ******** **** *** ***** ** **** a *** ** ***** **, ** **** **.

Josh Bylsma

In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/02/17 07:13pm

**** - * ***** *** ****-********** *** **** ******* (********** of*******). ** *** **** ** "****" ***, ** *** ******, is *** ********** ** *******.

*** **** ** ******* *** *** (*** ***** *** **** options) **** **** ****** **** ****** ******* *** ****** **** on *****. *** ********* *** *** *** ** *** ******** has *********** ****** *** ********* *** *************** **** **** *** prevalent ** ****** ********. * **** ****** *******, *********** ***** industry ** *** ******** * ************, ******** ******.

*** ** *** ** *** ** ******* ***, * **** took ***** ** **** * ***. *, **** **** ****** in *** ********, **** ************ **** *** ****** ** ***** and ********** *** *********** ** ******** ********. ******** ************ ** meet ******** ***** *** ******* *********** *** ******** ************. **** the ******** ** ***, *** **** **** ** ****** *** 'trunk ********', *** ***** ** **** ** **** ******* ** gone.

****** **** ** ****** ******* *** *** ****** ** "**********". IPVM *** **** * **** *** ** ************ **** *******, and **** **********, *****.

* ********** **** *** ***** ***** **** **** ** * good ***** *** * ******* *********** ** ******** ******, ******* we *** ******* ***** ********, *** **** ******. *** **** nature ** *** ******** ******** ** ***** ** ****, ******* integrity *** ***************.

** ********, *** *** ******** ** ***** *** ********* ********** that *** ******* ** *** ******** ******. ***** **** *** be *******, *** *** ****** *** ** ******* ******** *** making ***** *** ****, * ****** ***, *** *** * minority.

*** ***** ****** ** *********** * **** ****** **** *** over *** ****** ****** *** ******, **** ***** *****, ******** operations ** ****** ************* **** **** *** **** *****, "** hate ***, ** **** **** **** *** ***** *** ** hate **** ** **** ** *** ****".

*** *** *** ***** ******** ** *** ******, ******* **** have ***** **** ****. **** *** ****** ****** ****** ***** through ********** ******* *** *** ******** ** ***** ******** ******* OEM *** ***-**** ********.

Undisclosed #7

In reply to Josh Bylsma | 06/02/17 07:44pm

******* ********....

Do *** **** *** ****** ** ** *** **** *** ****?

** *** * ******** ****** ******* ****** ** ****** ********** enough *** * ******* **** ********* ** **** ********* ** the ******* *****.... **'* **** *** ** (*** * ** no *** *********; *'** ******* ******* ** *** ***** **** times ** ***********) ** ***** *** ****** *** ******** *** the ****** *************** *** ********** **** * **** ** ********** on *** ****** ********** ** ***** *** *********.

******** **********. :)

Josh Bylsma

In reply to Undisclosed #7 | 06/02/17 08:36pm

***** ******** *** *********** ***********.

*** *******:

*. **** *** ******: ** **** **** **** ** ********* for ****. **** ** ********** ***** ** **** **** "**** sell ***" **** *** **** ************ *** ******* ** ********** to *** ****** ******** ******* ** ***. ******* ** ******* the ***, ********* *********, *** ******* **** ** ***** ** be ** "**********", ** **** **** *** ***** ** **** over ** *****. ******* ** ******* *** *** *** ****** value.

*. **** *** ****: *** *** ****** ***** *** **** the ***. **** **** ********* **** ******* (**** ** ***** perspective) *** **** ****** **** **** *** ****** ******* **** concessions. ****, * *******, *** ******* **** ** ***** *** security ****** **** ***** *** **** **** ********* ** ***** manufactures.

(**** ****** ** * ********** **** ****** ** *** ** products, ****** *** **** **** ***** *** **** **** *****, "how ** *** ****** ** ** ******* ** * ********". Told *** ** *** *** * *** *** ***... ** switched ** ***)

**********: ** ****, *** ******** ** ***** *** ** ***** the ******. **** ************ *** *********** *** ******** ** *** "enough, *** ***** ** **** ** ***** *****" *** **-***** on *****.

** **** ** *********** ** *** ** ***** ** * major ***** **** ** **** *****. ***** ***, *** ******** is ********.

Thumbnail newheadshot

Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Josh Bylsma | 06/02/17 09:43pm

** ** *** ****** ***** **** ****** *** ********* ***. I **** ** ***** **** ***** *** *********** **** **** Hik. * **** **** ** ***** ***** *** ************* **** hate ***. * *** ******** ******** ***** ******* *************.

*** ***** ****** ** *********** * **** ****** **** *** over *** ****** ****** *** ******, **** ***** *****, ******** operations ** ****** ************* **** **** *** **** *****, "** hate ***, ** **** **** **** *** ***** *** ** hate **** ** **** ** *** ****".

**** ******* ** **** *** *** *** *** ********* ********. What * *** ** *** ****** *** *** "** **** that ** **** ** *** ****". ******: **** *** ****. I ***** **** *** **** ******* ************** **** **** **** **** ** *** ****? *************** *** * **** ******* *** * **** *** ***** than **** *** ***** **** ****** *** ******* *** *** performs **** ** ****. * ***** * **** ******** ********* from **** **** ** ****** ** "* **** **** * cant **** *** **** ****** ** ******* **** * ***** off ** ** **** ***** *********" ******* ********, ** *** truely ***** *** ********* **** **********, **** ***** ******** ********* with ********.

*** *** *** ***** ******** ** *** ******, ******* **** have ***** **** ****. **** *** ****** ****** ****** ***** through ********** ******* *** *** ******** ** ***** ******** ******* OEM *** ***-**** ********.

******* ******** **** * ***** ** **** **** ** ********** that ** **** ** ******* **** ***** ********* **** ***** 4-5x **** **** *********, * *** *** *** ******* ***** feel **** ***. *** ******** **** ** *** **** *********** that *** *** ****** **** ********** ******** ******** ** * reasonable ***** *** ******** **** *** *********** ** *** *********** who *** ***** **** *** ***** **** ****** *******, *** opposite ** ****.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/03/17 04:35pm

** ***** ** ** **** *** *** ********** **** *** only *** **** *** **** ********* ** *** ****** ************ allowed *** ********** ** *** ******* **********, ******* ****** ** it *** ****** ***** ********** *** ***** ** ******* ** it, *** ********* ************** ** *** ******* **********, ******** ** any *************, ** ****** *** ******, ** ***** *** **** of **** ******* ****** **** ***** ************ ** ***** ** avoid *** ******* **** **** *** ***** ** *** **** powerful ********* ****** ** *** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #9 | 06/03/17 05:00pm

************** ** *** ******* **********, ******** ** *** *************, ** matter *** ******, ** ***** *** **** ** **** ******* deeper **** ***** ************ ** ***** ** ***** *** ******* that **** *** ***** ** *** **** ******** ********* ****** of *** ****.

* ****** ***** ****'* ** ****** *** ************* *********** ** Hikvision **********.

* *** **** **** ******** ******* *** ****** ***** *** more ***** *** ****** ******** ******** ** ******* ********* ******** than *** **** **** ******** ********* *** ******** ****** ********. Indeed, * ***** ***** **** ** * **** ******** ********, for ****** ** *****.

Josh Bylsma

In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/05/17 12:39pm

**** ******* ** **** *** *** *** *** ********* ********.

***** ************* **** **** ** ******, ****-**-**** *** *** ********** with ****. **** *** **** ** *****, * **** ****** in **** ***** ***** *** *** **** ****** **** ** an ********** *** ******* *** ******* ************.

* ** ***** **** *** *********.. "***'* *** ****".* **** ******* ** *** **** *********** ****** **** **** win ** ***** ***** ********, *** **** ** * ************, long **** ************ ***** *****.

... ***** **** ****** *******...

*** *** **** ** **** ************, ****** ** ********* **** margin *******. ****** ** ****** *** ********** ** *** **** that ** ******, ******* ****** ******* ** *** ****** ****** money **** ** ****** ** ********. *******: $*** ****** **** 30% ****** = $**.** ** ******. ** ******** * $*** camera **** **% ****** = $**.** (**** **** ******) ** profit *******. **** ******* *** *** **** ******, **** *** mean *** *** **** ******.

***** ** * *** ** **** ***** **** ***** ** discussed. *** ****** *******, ***** ***** ******. ** *********** **** make ** ***** ****** ** ***** ******... * *******. * believe **** ****** * ******** ****** ** **** *** ***** was *** * *** ** ******** (**********).

***** *** **** *** **** ******** ** **, *********** ****** as ** *** **** ****** ******** ** ***'* ********. ********** subsidizes, *** *** ** * **** ****** ******, ************* ********* that ****** *** ***** ******* ** **** ** ************* *****, etc. ***** ** *** ** ********* ** ***** *** *** some ** ***** ******, ***** ** * *** ** *****, and **** ***** ** *****, ***** ** ****.

***** *** *** * ** *** *** ***-**-*** ** ***, I ** ********** **** **** ********. ** **** *** '***-****' take * ************ ******** ** ********* ***** ********... ***** *** only **** ** **** ***'* ******* **********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/02/17 09:12pm

**** *** *** **** *** *** *** **** ******* *********, but **** ****** **.

** **** ********, * ***** *** *** ***-************* **, ** least, ******** * ***** ******** ********** ** *******.

**** *** **** *** **** **** *********, *** *** ***** of ******* ** ******* *****.

**** **** *****, * ***** ***** **** ********* '********' **** since **** ****** ** *********. *** '*******' **** ******** ***** '************************************', ***** ******* ********* **** *** **** ***** ****. **** 'respect' ** ** *** ****** **** **** ********* *** ********* but ****'* *** ****** **** **** ****** **** **** **** say *** **** '*******.'

* ** ***** **** **** **** ********** ***** **** *********** think ********* ** ******** *** ***********, ** **** **** *** to *******, ********, ****, *****, ***. *********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

In reply to Sean Nelson | 06/03/17 01:04pm

"******* *** ***" = ***** ********** ***** *** ***** ** penetrate ******* *** **** *********** ***.

**** ***, **** **** ****** *** ***.

Undisclosed Integrator #8

06/02/17 09:27pm

* ******* **** ********* **** ** ********* *** ******* ******** else ********, ***** ** ******.

********, * ******* **** **** ***** * '****** *******' *** entire ******* **********, ********** ******** **** ** ******** *** *** people, *** ******* ** *** ** *** **** ******* ******* that ****** *** ** **** **** ******* ********. *** *** just ********* *** *** *** ********** ******* ****.

* ****** ** ******** ** ****** ** *** **** ******* has ********* ** ****** ******* **** *** ******* **** **** a ******** ********* **** ***** ******** ** ******** *** **** fuels *** ************ ********** *** *** *******?

** *** **** *********, ** **** ******.

**** * *******...

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8 | 06/03/17 12:17am

* ******* **** **** ***** * '****** *******' *** ****** Chinese **********

* ******:

(*) *****.

(*) **** *** ******* ******** ** **********? *** ***** **** ****?

(*) **** **** **** ******* **** ** ** **** ************* overwhelmingly ******** ********* ** *** ********** **** **** **********?

Thumbnail img 20140816 121237

Joseph Hirasawa

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8 | 06/05/17 01:22am

* ******* **** **** ***** * '****** *******' *** ****** Chinese **********, ********** ******** **** ** ******** *** *** ******, the ******* ** *** ** *** **** ******* ******* **** supply *** ** **** **** ******* ********

**** ***, **** *********.

********: "* ***** **** *** *** ***** ** ***** ******* ** these ******. **** ** *** **** ** *** ** **** matter?."
*******: "**....****, **** ***** *** **** ** *** *** ******** ** a ******** *****! ******* ** ****, *** *** *****! **** question!"

*** ******* **, ******* ***'* **** *** ****. ******, *** your *** *** ********** ** & **** **** ** **** a ************, ***** ******* ** *****.

Josh Bylsma

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8 | 06/05/17 12:52pm

* ** ***** ** ****** **** *** *** *** ** IPVM *** **** **** ******* ******* ***** *** ****** ******/*******/************* reports ** ***. ***** ** ** **** **** **** ****** a ***** ****** *** ********* ** *** **** ******* *********** gimiks, ***** ****** ** **** ***** ***, ********'* ***** ***** drops, **** **** *** ******, *** ********* ******' *** ***** debate (****)....***, ***. ** ** *** **** *****, **** ***** Canadians, ********* *** *** ****** ** ****.

Undisclosed Integrator #10

06/05/17 12:27pm

*****. ** ****** ** *** ***-*********** *********** ******* *** ** range ** ***'* "******* ***" ********. **** ********* **** **** had **** *** *** ** *** ***** ** ** - then ***** **** *** *** ** ******** **** *** * known ****** ** *** ** ***** **** ***** **** *** disclosed. ***** ****** ******* **** ** ***** * ****.

Josh Bylsma

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #10 | 06/05/17 01:49pm

***** *** ** ***** ****** **** ***** *** ****** ** the ******** ** *** ****** ** ****** ***. *** ***** argue **** *** **** **** **** ***** *** **** ****** as * *********** ******* *** **** **** **** *** ** longer * *********** ******. **** *** ******* ****-***** **** ****** acquisition ** *** ********* **** ***********, **** ** ********** *** moving **** **** **** **** **** **** *** ******, **** hurts **** **** *** ****.

*** **** ***** ******* **** *****, ** **** **** */** across *** ******* ***** *** ***** ******-****** ** ***** ******* they ** *** **** ******.

Undisclosed Integrator #11

06/05/17 12:36pm

******!

* **** ******* ** *** ***** *** ***** ***** ** be *** ***** **** ( * ***** ** *****) ** this ****** **********. ********* ******** *** ******* **** ********** ** model *** ***** *** ***** ******** ** *** *********** *** that ** * ****** *****. **** ** ***** ***** ** fame. **** ** ***** ******** ( **** *** *** **** coffers ** *** ******* ********** ****** ********* ** *** ******** of *** ********** *******).. *** ******* ** **** **** ** Capitalism... ****** ***'* ** ? **** ********** **** ******** *** exploited ** * ********* ******!! . ***** ******* *** ********. The ** **** **** ****, ***** *** *** *** ** is *** *******. ***** ** ** ******** **. ** ****** the **** **** ** ** ****** **** **** **** $*** complete **** *** ***** *** ******** ***** ********** **** smartphone *** **** **** ********** ********* *******. *** * smartphone *** ** **** ** *** ****** *** ** ****** does. ****** ** **************. ** *** ** **** ******** . It ** ****** **********, ** ** ***********. *** ***** *** faced **. ***** ********* ******* *** ********** **** ***** *** onslaught ** ********* *** *********** ... *** ******** ******** ( Integrators, *************, ***) ** ** **** ***********. *** ** *** grasping *** *******, *** *********.

* ******* **'* *** **********: ** ** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11 | 06/05/17 12:42pm

*** ******* ** **** **** ** **********... ****** ***'* ** ?

**, **'* ********************:

************ ** * **** ********** ***********. *** **** ** ** ****** *** ******* *** ****** and ***** ** *** ******* ******, ** ********* *** ********* as **** ******** ******** ** ******** ****** *** ******'* *******. Manufacturing *** ********, ************ ** ***** **** ******** ************, **** prioritized.

***** ***** *** ************* (**** *********) *** ******* *********** ******** for ******* ************* (****, ********, ***.) **** ********* *** ******** inside *****.

** ****** *** **** **** ** ** ****** **** **** than $*** ******** **** *** ***** *** ******** ***** ********** that

**** ** ** ****** *** **** ***** $*** ** *** the *** **** ****. **** ********* *** **** ******* ** cheaply********** ******* ***** ******* *****, ********* *** ******* ***** ** the ***** *** ****'* *************.

Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to John Honovich | 06/05/17 09:56pm

** *** ******* ***** *** **** ***** ******* ********** *** mercantilism. **** ****** ** *** **** ******: ****** ** *******. Sell **** **** *** ********** ** ** * ****** ** a ***********. ****** ****. *** ******* *** ***** ************ ***** to ******* ***** *****. **** ** ******.

**** * ********** **** **** **** $*** ** *** **** issue ****; *** ***** ** ******* ** ********* *****'* *** with ** *** *** * *****... ********* ** ***** ** at ****. *** ******* ***** **** ********* ** ** ********** to ***** **** *** ***********. ******* *** ************* **** **** mistake *** ****** **** *****-**. ****'** ******* ***** ******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11 | 06/05/17 10:13pm

** *** ******* ***** *** **** ***** ******* ********** *** mercantilism. **** ****** ** *** **** ******: ****** ** *******.

**, **** *** ***. **** ***** ******** *********** ** ***** ***********.

************ ** ****** ** *** ******* ********* *** ********* ** advantage** *** ********* ***** *******'* *********.

********* ** ***** ** ** ****.

**, ********* *** ** ********* ** ***** **** ** ***** to *****, *********, *******, ***. ***************. ****'* ***** *** ***** are.

*** ***** ** ******* ** ********* *****'* *** **** ** far *** * *****...

***, ******* *** ************* *** *******, *.*., ****, ********, ******, etc. ********'* *** *** **** ******* *** **** ****.

Undisclosed #7

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11 | 06/06/17 12:17am

"** *** ******* ***** *** **** ***** ******* ********** *** mercantilism. **** ****** ** *** **** ******: ****** ** *******."

**** ** ****** *** **** ** *** - ********** *** mercantilism*** *** *** **** ******.

"*** ******* *** ***** ************ ***** ** ******* ***** *****. This ** ******."

*** ******* *** ******** ***** ************** ***** ** ******* ***** goals. ** *****, ****, ******.

Undisclosed #7

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11 | 06/06/17 12:38am

"********* ** ***** ** ** ****.Not ******* ***** **** ********* ** ** ********** ** ***** **** *** ***********. Detroit car manufacturers made that mistake and almost went belly-up. They've learned their lesson."

**** *** *** **** ** *** * ******** ****** *** 1% ** ** **** ********* ** ***** *** **% ** do **** ************ (*** **********). *.*. ***** ******* ** '*****' exists **** ******* ** *** $** ****-****** *** *****, *** not ******* **** ******* '*** ** * ****' ********, **** Apple *** *******.

*** ****** **** ** **** ******* ** ***** ******* - if *** ******* ***** **** *** *** **** ******* ** the * ******** ****** **** *********** *** ***'* ******** **** doing **? *** *** ******* **** **** **** ******* **** everyone ****?

****, **** ******* ********* ******** ******* ** *** ********* ********* it.

Thumbnail dsc03686 2

Mick Brown

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11 | 06/05/17 09:03am

** **** *** ******** ** *** *** *** ***** ********** here ** ******

*** *** ******** ****** ** ********** ** ** ****** **** will ** ****

** *** ***** *** ***** ******** ******

******* *** ********* ******** *** ******** *** ******

Undisclosed Integrator #10

06/05/17 12:50pm

******** ** ****** ********* - * ****** *** * * US ************ *** ******** ******* ******** ** ** **** ** China. **** *** **** ** **** ******** *** ** *** no ********* ** ********* ******** *** ** ** ** ********** and ******** **** ***** ** ****** **.

***** ******* ********* * ***** ********* ******* ***** *** **** branded *** **** ** *** ** ************.

**** *******, ****** ****** ***** ******** *** ** ************* **** - *** *** ***** ** ***** * ******* ** **** on ****.

* ***** **** ***** *** **** **** ********** ** ************ uses ****** ******* ** *** ** **** * ***** ***** country ** **** **** **** $'*.

****** *** ***** ****** **** ** **** **** ********* *********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #10 | 06/05/17 12:54pm

**** *******, ****** ****** ***** ******** *** ** ************* **** - *** *** ***** ** ***** * ******* ** **** on ****.

*** ** (** ******) ************ **** ** **** *******, **** the ******* ***** *******, *** ** **** ********** **** *** over *** *****. ***** *** *** * *** ******, *** may ****** *** **** **** **** *** * ** ************ has ****** *** ***** ****** ************ ******** ***** **** ** have **** **, *.*.,***** ** ****** ************* ****,***** ** ****** ************ ****,***** ****** ************* ****, ***.

Thumbnail dsc03686 2

Mick Brown

06/05/17 01:30pm

********* *** ********** ***** ****** **** * *********

*** ******* **** ** **% ***** ******

***** ** ** ******* ***************

**** *** **** ******* ** ********* * *** **** *** support **** ******** **** *****

*** ***** ***** ** ***** ******** ****** **** ** ***** products ****** *** *** *** *** *** ******* ** *********

**** **** *** ***** **** ******** ** ********* ** ********

******* * * ***** **** ***** ** ********* *** ** analogue ****

** **** ***** ****** **** ****

*** **** **** ** ******** ********* ** ********* *** *******

** ***** **** ******* ******* **** * ******** ** **** before **** ******** **** ********** *********

*** **** **** ****

******* ******* *** **** ****

Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

In reply to Mick Brown | 06/07/17 04:55am

**'* * ******** ********* ** *** ********* *******!

*** *** *** ************* *** ******. *** **** ***** *** no ***** ** *** **** **** ** *** ***** ***** fountain.

** *** *** *** ** ****** ** *** ******, *** side - **** **** * *** ***** *******, ** ***** from *** ******* *'** ****.

** **** ** **** *** ****** ********** ***** / **'* going ** **** * ************ ****** ** **** *** ************ before **** ** **** * %*** ** *** ******.

Thumbnail dsc03686 2

Mick Brown

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 06/07/17 06:48am

** * ********** ** *** **** ********* ***** *** ** 2017

****** **** **** ** ** * *** * ***.

Thumbnail dsc03686 2

Mick Brown

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 06/07/17 06:48am

********* **** ***** *** **********

** ***** **** ** ********** *********

Thumbnail dsc03686 2

Mick Brown

06/06/17 05:59am

********* **** **** ******* ******* ** ********** ***** *********** *** greed

Login to read this IPVM report.
Why do I need to log in?
IPVM conducts unique testing and research funded by member's payments enabling us to offer the most independent, accurate and in-depth information.

Related Reports

Cat 5e vs Cat 6 vs Cat 6a Network Cable Usage Statistics on Aug 16, 2017
Cat 5e? Cat 6? Cat 6a? What do integrators use in practice, today? 140+ integrators told IPVM. Here are the results: For those who want to...
Stolen Video NVR / DVR Statistics on Aug 15, 2017
"But what happens if someone steals my recorder?" Anyone who has done more than a handful of jobs has probably heard this question several times....
Hikvision Europe Cutting Out Unauthorized End User Sales on Aug 15, 2017
The days of anyone buying Hikvision from anywhere off the Internet are numbered, at least in Europe, if Hikvision's plan comes to fruition. In...
IP Camera Specification / RFP Guide 2017 on Aug 14, 2017
RFPs are hard. Do them 'right' and it takes a lot of knowledge and time. Do them 'wrong' and you can be (a) unwittingly locked into a specific...
Cellphone Usage Issues For Integrators (Statistics) on Aug 11, 2017
Cellphones clearly offer significant advantages in communication and problem solving. But they can also be a major pain point if employees...
Rebooting IP Camera Statistics And Practices on Aug 10, 2017
Dahua cameras automatically reboot weekly, by default. Is this an innovation by the Chinese mega-manufacturer or a sign of a problems? 125...
Avigilon Profits Surge, Stock Jumps (Q2 2017) on Aug 10, 2017
Avigilon said earlier this year they would shift their strategy to maximizing profits. Now, they are delivering it and the stock market is...
Vivotek Acquisition Offer From Delta on Aug 10, 2017
One of the largest remaining independent video surveillance manufacturers has received an offer to become majority owned by Delta Group, a Taiwan...
Most Common Network Termination Usage Statistics on Aug 09, 2017
How do integrators decide which brand of patch panel or keystone jack to buy?  140+ integrators told IPVM which manufacturers they trust and what...
US Army Bans Chinese DJI Drones on Aug 08, 2017
The US Army has issued a ban on Chinese-made DJI drones. A US Army memo obtained by sUAS News references a classified document from the Army...

Most Recent Industry Reports

Final Day Save $50 - IP Networking Course September 2017 on Aug 17, 2017
Today, Thursday, August 17th is the last day to save $50 on the September IP Networking Course. This is the only networking course designed...
Knightscope Raises $10 Million With $3,320 Average Per Investor on Aug 17, 2017
Congrats to Knightscope. And condolences to their legion of little investors. Knightscope has disclosed they have raised $10+ million from their...
Axis and Arecont Legal Conflict Over Multi-Imager Cameras on Aug 17, 2017
Arecont threatened Axis. Axis has responded by moving to invalidate an Arecont patent. It is an important contest. Multi-imagers are Arecont's...
Directory Of Consumer Security Cameras on Aug 16, 2017
The consumer camera segment continues to grow, with new startups and models from existing players released seemingly every month. In this report we...
Cat 5e vs Cat 6 vs Cat 6a Network Cable Usage Statistics on Aug 16, 2017
Cat 5e? Cat 6? Cat 6a? What do integrators use in practice, today? 140+ integrators told IPVM. Here are the results: For those who want to...
Hikvision Responds To Cracked Security Codes on Aug 15, 2017
Hikvision has responded to IPVM's report on Hikvision's security code being cracked, both with a 2 page update to dealers and communication...
Stolen Video NVR / DVR Statistics on Aug 15, 2017
"But what happens if someone steals my recorder?" Anyone who has done more than a handful of jobs has probably heard this question several times....
Hikvision Europe Cutting Out Unauthorized End User Sales on Aug 15, 2017
The days of anyone buying Hikvision from anywhere off the Internet are numbered, at least in Europe, if Hikvision's plan comes to fruition. In...
Axis Laser Focus PTZ Tested on Aug 14, 2017
Axis has been touting its new Q6155-E laser focus PTZ as 'always in focus' and 'always in color'. Does it really deliver? We bought and tested...
Vulnerability Directory For Access Control Cards on Aug 14, 2017
Knowing which access credentials are insecure can be unclear, especially because most look and feel the same. Even the most insecure 125 kHz types...

The world's leading video surveillance information source, IPVM provides the best reporting, testing and training for 10,000+ members globally. Dedicated to independent and objective information, we uniquely refuse any and all advertisements, sponsorship and consulting from manufacturers.

About | FAQ | Contact