Dahua Considers Adding Product Warning Labelling, Tells FCC

Published Jul 13, 2022 15:41 PM

Dahua told the FCC it would consider labeling and contract provisions to stop sales violating US bans. Three years in, these illegal sales have continued to occur, as Dahua products have no warning labels.

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Inside this note, we examine Dahua's proposal, consider its merits, and explain the problem of continued violations of the NDAA ban.

** **** ****, ****,***** ***** * ****** **** *** FCC** ******** ** *** **********'* ******* for "* ************ ********** ** ***** USA ********* **** *** ****** ******, security ** ********** **********, ******** ******** surveillance ** ******** **************, *** ***** national ******** ********, ** ******* ** Section *** ** *** ****."

***** **** ** ******* "*********** *****" to "***** ******** *******", ** ******** product ******** "***/** ***** *********** **** sales ** *** ********* **** ***** Distributors *** ***** *******."

Dahua *** ***** ** **** ** *********** ********** ********** ******** to prevent inadvertent sales of its Covered List products to users in these specific sectors, such ** ********** ******* ******** ***/** ********* ***** *********** **** ***** ** *** ********* **** ***** ************ *** ***** *******. [emphasis added]

******** ***** **** ***** *** ******* of ****** *** ******* *********** ******** the *** ** ***** *** ***** products, ************ *** ********. *********** ******* significant ******** *** **** **********, ***** Federal ******** *** *********** *** **** no *** ** **** **** ***** is *** **** ************.

***** ******* ***** **** **** * source ** *********** *********** *** ******* and *** ******* ** ******* **** investigations. ** ********,*** ***** ***** ******** ********* ****** for ** ****************** **** *** ********** ******** ******** US ******** ********* ** *****, * Dahua-owned *** *****.

***** *** *** ********* ** **** any *** ****** ***** ***, *** its ********** ***** *** **** ** a ****-****** ******** *** **** **********. Similarly, *** ******** ** *** ******** terms ******* ** *** *********, *** the ********* ** *** ******** ** Dahua ********* **** ** * ******* signal ** ******* *** ************ **** these ***** *** *** *********.

Will ***** *******?

*****'* ******** **** ********* **** ************ and ******* ******** ****-********* ***** ****** questions ***** ********* *** ***********. ***** those ********* *** **** *****, ** is ********** ** ****** **** ********** violations **** ** ** *****'* **********. Since ***** ** *********** ************ ** be ******* **** ********* *** *** a ******* ** ********* ******** (*.*.,*,*,*), **** ******* **** **** * much ******* ****** ** ***** *** identify * ****** ** ***** **************.

Too ****?

******* *** ********* ** ******** ****-********* sales, *****'* ******** ***** ****** * years ***** *** ********* **** ** the **** ***. ****** **** ****, Dahua *** **** **** ***** **** its ******** ********* ** ** **** to *** ******* ********** ******* **** has **** **** ***** ** ******** for ******* ****** ************** ******** **** ******* ********.

SIA ********

***'***** *********** ********** ***** *** **** ** making ** ****** ** ********* * product's ********:

****** *** ******** ********, ********* **** been ****** ******* ***** ** **** it ****** ** ******** ******** ******** for ********** ********, ********** *** *** grant ******* ***** “******* ***” ************. Such ******* **** ******* ******* **** for ***-***** ******* ** *** ************ and *** ******* ********** *** ****** chain. ** ******** ***** *** ****** Equipment *** ** ****, *** *** is ******** ** ***** * ***** rule ***** **** **** **** ********* granting “****** *************” *** *** ********* that ***** ** ********** ** ******* 889, *** **** **** ** *** FCC ******* ****. ** ****** ** discuss *** ***** **** ** * SIA ********** ********* ********* **** ********* its *******.

Product ********* ********

**********-******** ******* ******** *** **** *******, especially ***** ************ ****** *** **** warnings ******* ******* **** *** **********. A *********** *** ** ** *** for ********** ******* ** ****** ***** was ** ***** *** ***** ******** (****** / ***** ******** **** *** "Distributed", ** ******* ** ****** ** Box, ***** **** "*****"). ************, ******* ******** **** **** vapes ******* ********* ******** ** *************, and ******* ******** ******* ******** ** they ******* ******* ******* ** ********.

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Comments (18)
U
Undisclosed #1
Jul 13, 2022

* ***** ***, *** **** ** too ****** *** **** *** *****.

(7)
DD
Davide De Bella
Jul 14, 2022

***** ******* ********...."****** **** ****** ******** have ******* ******?"

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** * ***'* ****any ********** between Onvif and US Government especially when I read

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***** ******* **** **'** ******...

(1)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 14, 2022
IPVM

*****, **** **** ***** **** ** do **** *** *** *** ****?

** * ***'* ****any ***************** ***** *** ** ********** ********** when * ****

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(1)
DD
Davide De Bella
Jul 14, 2022

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*** ******* ** ********** ** *** - *****(***** ** ***) **** ****** ** chapterTERMINATION/ACCESS ***********: "To the maximum extent permitted by law, this agreement is governed by the laws of the State of Washington, U.S.A.", so apparently they have to apply those laws but this point comes after this "ONVIF reserves the right,in *** **** **********, ** ********* **** ****** ** the ***** *** **** *** *** related ******** ** *** ******* ******* at *** ****, ******* ******".

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** ***** **** ***** **** * didn't **** ** ** ***** ******* that **** *** *********** ******** *********** U.S. ********** ** ********....?"

***** ***** *********, ********, **** **** the **** ******* ** **** ***** vendors?

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***** *** ******* ************* *** ********?

**** ***** ***** ***

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*** ************** ****** **** * *** to **** **** *** **** ******** to * *** ** **** *** market?

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**, ****** * *** ***** *** you *** **** ***** *** ***** doing

JH
John Honovich
Jul 14, 2022
IPVM

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**** *** * ** ********** ***** entity *** ********* **** ** ****** with ** ***. **** ***'* ** "independent" ** ** ***, *.*., **** can't ****** *** ** *** ** taxes, ***.

DD
Davide De Bella
Jul 14, 2022

**** *** * ** ********** ***** entity *** ********* **** ** ****** with ** ***. **** ***'* ** "independent" ** ** ***, *.*., **** can't ****** *** ** *** *****, etc.

********** ****!

**** ****** ****** ************** *** ***** *** ****.

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********* ***** ******** **'* *****...

**, ****, ****'* ***** ******* ** its *******: "***** ******** *** *****,in *** **** **********" is it a false?

******* ********* **** *** ******* *** right ******** ****** ** (**** ** less) "***** ******** *** *****,in *** *** *** ********** **********"

*****'* **?

JH
John Honovich
Jul 14, 2022
IPVM

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*** ****** ** ***** ** *** laws ** *** ********** ** ******** in.

**** ** *** *.*.***'* * ************* *** **** **** Explained

(1)
DD
Davide De Bella
Jul 14, 2022

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**** ** *** ******* *****

JH
John Honovich
Jul 14, 2022
IPVM

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(1)
DD
Davide De Bella
Jul 14, 2022

*** **** *** **** ***** ******* but ***'** ****** *** **** *** Onvif's ***** *** **** **** ** sentences.

****** *** ** *** *** **** focused ** ** *** *** *******?

*.ONVIF ********** ** **** to manufacturers, software developers, consultants, system integrators, end users, and other interest groups that wish to participate in ONVIF activities.

*. ***mission ** ***** is to provide and promote standardized interfaces for effective interoperability of IP-based physical security products

*.ONVIF ******** *** *****, ** *** **** **********, to terminate your access to the ONVIF Web Site and the related services or any portion thereof at any time, without notice

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**, ********* ** *** *****, **** and ******* ** ***** *** *** kindly ****** ** ** ***** ******** document, *****'* **********, ***'* *** **'* possible *** *** ********** ** ********* with *****'* **********?

**** ** *** ***** *** ** and ******* **** ***** * *** only ************** *** *** ********** ******** that ******* **** *** *****, **** is *** ******** ********** *** ****** to ******* ** *****

(1)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 14, 2022
IPVM

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(1)
(1)
DD
Davide De Bella
Jul 14, 2022

* ** *** ******* ** ***, it's * *** **** *** ** close *** ************ ** **** ***, John.

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*** ** **** **** ** *** beginning *****.

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******** *** ***** "***** ** *** ******* ** ***** non-public ** **********",

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Jul 18, 2022

** ***** ** * *** ******.

*) ***** ** * ******* ************. You **** ** ***** **** ** is **** ** *** ** **********.

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*) ***** *** ********** *** ******* their ******. **********, **** ******* ****** who ***** ** ** * ******. Then **** ****** *** ******* *********. Those ********* **********, ** **** ********* their ********** ******** *** **** ******* these ********* ** **** ** * restricted *******, ******* **** ******** *** not ****** *** ******** *** *********** testing....

*) ** **** *********, ***** ** incorporated ** *** **, ** **** need ** ****** ** ****. ***** why **** **** ** ****** *** DoC *** ***** ** ********** ****.

(1)
DD
Davide De Bella
Jul 19, 2022

** *********** ************ #* *** *** for **** **** ***** ** ******** me

@* ****** ********** *** **** * reported ***** **** ******* ********* *********. So, **** ** *** **** ********? Are **** * ** ******* ** are **** ** ***** ******* ** US? * *** ****** ** ******* official ******** *** *** "* ****". Are *** **** ** **** ** not ****** ** ******** ** ** to "* ****"? ** *** **** the **** ******** *** ******* ******* of *****?

@* ***'** ********* "** ***** ********* have ***********/********** **** **** ******* ************, ONVIF ***** *** ***** ** ****". May *** ****** ***** **** ** official ********* **** ***** *** ******* what *** *****?

@* ****** ***** ** ** ***** requests

@* * **** **** *** **** he *** ******* *** * ***'* know *** **** **** ********** ** talk ** *** **** **, *********** I ***** *** *** ** *** read *** ***** ** ** ****, I ****** ** ** *** ***** you *********** **** ***'** *** ****** anything ****

(1)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Jul 18, 2022

*** ***** **** *** ***** **** in *** ***?

*** ** ******** **** ******** ************* selling ** ********** ******** ** *** know *** *** ** *** ****?

** *** ******* ** * **** ship ****** ** ** ****** ** we ***** **** **** ***** *** be *********?

** * ******* ** **** *** someone ** ***** ** ******* ** do ** ***** **** **** **** the ***** *** ***** **** *** there ****?

** *** **** ** ***% ****** they ****** ** ********* ** * government ****** ***** *** ****** ** options;

****** *) ***** **** *** **** a *** ***** ** *** **** that **** "*** **** *********"

****** *) **** ********* *********** *********** for *** ***** ($* ***** ***** impose * **** ** $***) *** order ***** **** **** ** * fine *******. **** **** ***** ** applied ** *** ******* **** *** sold *** ******* ***** **** *** distributor ******* **.

JH
John Honovich
Jul 18, 2022
IPVM

*** ** ******** **** ******** ************* selling ** ********** ******** ** *** know *** *** ** *** ****?

**** *** ***** **** "******** *************"? :(

********* ******, ** ****: ********* ******** On ******** *************

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
Jul 18, 2022

*** ** ******** **** ******** ************* selling ** ********** ******** ** *** know *** *** ** *** ****?

***.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Jul 18, 2022

***!!!! * ***** ***** *** ******* that ************* **** *** ******* ********** deals ***** *** **** * ****! I **** ** ** ****** ******** that ************* ******* *** ********* **** what **** ******* *** **** ** on *** ***** *** ******* ***** of *** ****.

@**** *** **** ****** **** ********* to **** ** *** ***** ***** be **** ** ****** **** **** know ***** ***** ** ****?

@********** #* **** ** *** ***** the ******* ** ****** ******* *** security ** *** **** ***** **** kind ** ***? ** *** **** bury ***** **** ** *** **** and ******* *** ** ****?