Cap Connector "You Can't Screw Up" Profile

Published Mar 31, 2017 09:41 AM

One company, CaP Connectors, is marketing their coax connectors as The 30-second Connector You Can’t Screw Up”, by claiming to combine the best attributes of others in a single design.

But is it worth using? Inside we examine CaP's claims, see how the product works, how the pricing compares and what they key advantages and disadvantages are.

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Comments (24)
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Claude Bernard
Mar 31, 2017

We use these types of connector a number of years ago and over time we found that the cap had at times come loose and you didn't have a solid connection anymore. Mostly occurs on the DVR side in scenarios where there may be a bit of technician activity at these cable ends. 

We found that on the camera side where there was never any activity they stayed on and were a more compact fit than other types of connectors.

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Jon Dillabaugh
Mar 31, 2017
Pro Focus LLC

What does Ferrari, Lamborghini, or Maserati have to do with coax connectors?

Have you tested these, or is this just an FYI? I would like to see some testing before even considering them. We currently use ICM/Belden Double Bubble connectors and rarely have a need to terminate twice. Only time is usually due to substandard cable.

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Brian Rhodes
Mar 31, 2017
IPVMU Certified

We have not tested these, but if there's enough member interest we would.

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Undisclosed #4
Mar 31, 2017
IPVMU Certified

What does Ferrari, Lamborghini, or Maserati have to do with [CaP] coax connectors?

They are all examples of Italian engineering which trades cost for speed. 

 

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Sean Nelson
Mar 31, 2017
Nelly's Security

compression or bust

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Randall Raszick
Mar 31, 2017

This seems like a problem in search of a solution. Coax crimping tools are not exactly expensive, and it seems like this is a new proprietary tool needed to use a more expensive connector. Likewise I don't see the benefit of being able to re-use a BNC connector when the unit prices are so low. It would also appear that the manufacturer is targeting a dying market given that the majority of non-stop and rob or residential installations are using IP infrastructure. Maybe I'm missing something.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Mar 31, 2017

I came across this product about 6 years ago and bought quite a bit of it. Worked absolutely fine, not just for BNC but Satellite cable etc as well. Good quality pliers too and at times quite handy that you could remove the BNC if crimped on prematurely without having to cut if off and use a new one. The actual BNC connectors where quite expensive however.

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Matt Ion
Mar 31, 2017

Hmmm I was gonna say, I definitely remember reading something about these (or a similar concept) several years ago... back when I still used BNC. Good to know I'm not imagining things ;)

 

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Randall Raszick
Mar 31, 2017

I didn't even think about the satellite cable aspect of it, my experience has been crimping and pulling RG-6/RG-59 in the past, going wayyy back to 10Base2 networks and analog CCTV.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Mar 31, 2017

I have only ever used crimp type connectors and as long as you have a good quality 3 blade stripper and crimping tool if you take more than 1 minute to terminate you are doing something wrong. Dare I say it,  I buy direct from China in lots of 300 - 500 at a time at a cost of about $0.20 each and have never had a problem with quality. Yes I may have had to crimp again at times (have been interrupted or distracted whilst doing it) but hey wasting another minute and $0.20 less than 1% of the time is a bearable cost.

Why reinvent a more expensive process/tool.

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Ethan Ace
Mar 31, 2017

I've never seen anything like the CaP connectors, but I do remember some companies pushing these "universal" F connectors years ago, specifically for electrical contractors getting into home structured cabling.

You basically slipped it onto the cable, stripped and trimmed, and then pushed the cap over everything to "lock" it onto the whatever you're connecting to. Except they didn't really "lock" and you could pull them out with minimal force.

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Howard Kohnstamm
Apr 03, 2017
IPVMU Certified

Ethan,

If you pulled the cable out with minimal force, then they were not installed properly. Normally the cable jacket will tear before the connector pulls loose. Again, the biggest mistake is where the installer "strips" the cable instead of just "splitting" the jacket.

Regards,

Howard

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Mar 31, 2017

I really appreciate these kinds of articles finding unique product that we would otherwise not find unless conducting time intensive searches ourselves.  I am interested in anything that cuts down on install time as our labor costs per hour are significant.  The lack of weatherproofing is somewhat of a challenge on some our installs but I still will purchase a set to test out.  The price per connector is less of an issue due to reusability (mistakes happen) and it is more than offset by labor costs if it saves just one minute of time in the field.

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Howard Kohnstamm
Apr 10, 2017
IPVMU Certified

The Black CaP's are UV rated and have a grommet on the cable end which makes a tight seal. The issue is on the BNC connector itself. I am not aware of any BNC that is designed to be in the weather without secondary protection. I always suggest that connections be made indoors or in a weather proof enclosure.

 

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Jay Hobdy
Mar 31, 2017
IPVMU Certified

We used them and all the techs hated them. They never stayed on properly. In hindsight it may because we were never taught to strip coax properly....

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Howard Kohnstamm
Apr 01, 2017
IPVMU Certified

[Notice: Poster is from CaP]

Jay, an issues occurs when tech's attempt to "strip" the cable like they would for most other connectors. The CaP connectors use a unique approach where the cable is only "split."  A small amount of the dielectric is removed to expose the  center conductor. The wire is inserted into the fingers of the metal portion and the plastic CaP is pressed on. It makes a sandwich with the jacket held between the plastic CaP and the metal connector.  Is like a finger puzzle, the harder you pull the tighter is grabs. When done properly, the connector cannot be pulled off but can be removed and reused.

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Jay Hobdy
Apr 01, 2017
IPVMU Certified

I believe we were stripping them the wrong way then. 

What we found odd was it was a one size fits all connector, and we were having issues with the the smaller RG59 cable. The connectors were not tight at all.

 

But after that explanation, I believe we were prepping the cable the wrong way.

 

At this point, we do so little coax, not a big deal. We only work on coax in existing infrastructure.

 

 

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Jon Dillabaugh
Apr 01, 2017
Pro Focus LLC

So what you're saying is you guys screwed up the connectors that cannot be screwed up?

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Undisclosed #5
Apr 01, 2017

Coax coax go away

Come back

Some other day.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
Apr 01, 2017

With AHD growing in popularity with the residential and SMB integrators coax seems unlikely to go away soon.  If the trend with AHD continues it may start to become as popular as it once was.

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Itamar Kerbel
Apr 02, 2017

I totally agree about AHD growing in popularity, but it still grows as the cheapest solution that an installer can offer.

In these installation price is the king and there might be no room for expensive equipment.

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Matt Ion
Apr 16, 2017

As they perfect AHD over UTP (and CVI/TVI and even SDI - is that still a thing?), coax will continue merrily down the path of obsolescence... and good riddance to it.

 

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Undisclosed Distributor #6
Apr 06, 2017

We have tested and sold these. I love them and think they're great, but it is hard to convert old-school installers to the CaP system. I think old habits die hard.

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Stephen Hannah II
May 01, 2017
IPVMU Certified

That's quite a claim.  "You can't screw up."  Or are you issuing a challenge?  Ive known guys (trunk-slammers)...