Bosch Dropping Dahua

By John Honovich, Published Feb 13, 2020, 10:04am EST

Bosch has confirmed to IPVM that it is in the process of dropping Dahua, over the next year, as both IP camera contract manufacturer and recorder ODM / OEM.

Inside this note, we share feedback from Bosch, examine the driving forces (specifically US government ban / NDAA) and how this impacts both Dahua and Bosch going forward.

For background, see Bosch 3000i Cameras Tested and Bosch Divar NVR Tested vs Dahua.

Bosch *********

***** ********* ** **** that:

***** ** ******* ** expanding *** ** ****** product ********* ****** ****. As **** ** **** portfolio ********* ****, ** are ******* ** ********** partners ******* ** ***** and ****** ********** ************ in *** ************* **** in ****, ********. ** per *** ******* *****, by ***-****, ** **** start ******** ** ******* from *** ************* *********. Before *** *** ** 2020, ** **** ******** the ********* *** ******** ship ***-******* ************ ** cameras ** *** *.*. market. ** ******* *********, we ** *** *** any ********* ******** ** our ** *******.

*** ****, ** ** not **** * ******** timeline *** ********* ** DVRs ** *** *********. We *** ******* **** a *** ******* ** explore ** *********** ********; however, *** ******* ** not ********* ***.

Background ***** / ***** ***********

****** **** ***** ************ customers, ***** *** ***** relabelled ***** ******** (*.*.,************ ******** *** ****).

*******, ***** *** ****** with ***** ** * ways:

(*) ***** ******** ************* to ***** * ****** of *****-**** ***** ******** (models ** ********* ** ********* ******** ********* **** ranges). ***** ******* ***** use *****'* ********, ***-******* SoC, **********, ******, ***. but **** *** ******** / ********* ** * Dahua *******.

(*) ***** *** / ODMs ******* *****-**** ********* from *****. ****** *** cameras, ***** ***** ******* do *** **** ******* of ***** ******** / software ****** **** **** robust ******** ************ *** security ************ (***:***** ***** *** ****** vs *****.)

Problems *** *****

*** **** *** ******** 3 ******** *** *****:

  • ***** ** ***** ****** uses ***** ******** / software, **** *** ******** by *****. *** **** calls *** * *********** of ******** '********' ** Dahua. ***** ***** ************* try ** ***** **** Dahua **** ********* *** cameras *** ** **** would ** ***** *** could ***** *********** *** still ***** ** ********** to ******* *** ***. Dropping ***** ** ****** simpler *** **** *****.
  • *** ***** ********* ****** certainly **** ***** *** NDAA ***, **** *** those **** * **** limited ************** ** *** NDAA. ***** ***** ** banned *** ********** ***. While ***** ********* *** not ****** **** *** certainly *** ***** ** the **********, ******** **** presents ***** *** *********.
  • *** '*********' ********* *** included ********** *** **************** / *********** ** the ***** *****. ***** ****** ** Dahua ***** ******* ***** to ******* ******** *** their ******* ******** **** the ** **********.

Impact *** *****

** *** ***** ****, it ****** ******** ****** problems ** ***** ***** to ****** *** ** Dahua. ********, *****'* ****** are ****** ***** **** what ***-***** ******* *****. However, ***** ** *** a ***** ***** ******** so ***** ** ***** impact *******, ** ******** changes *****'* ******* ***********.

Impact *** *****

***** **** ******** ** revenue, ************** ****** ** the ***, *************** * ******* ** confirmed ******** ** ********, ***** *** ** their***** ****** ******* *********.

** ********, ***** ** not * **** ***** customer *** *****. *** Bosch ******** ***** ** symbolic ** ******* ********** Dahua ** ************ ****** in *** **** ***** larger ************* (******* ************ like ***** ** ********** end-users) ************ ******** ********** from *****.

Comments (13)

* ***** *** ******** they *** ** ***********. They *** ******* *** other ********, ********** **** they ** *** *** will *** **** *** products **** ***** **** on **. ** ****** like ***** ***** ** be * ******** ******** that **** ***/***/******** ************* for *** ******** ****. I **** **** ***** is ***** * *** push *** *************, *** does **** **** ** develop *** ******** *** still **** ** ******* else *** *** *** production ***/** ****** ** the ********?

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**** *** ******* *** other ********, ********** **** they ** *** *** will *** **** *** products **** ***** **** on **.

****'* *** ******* ** at ***** **********. **** also ****:

****** ********** ************ ** our ************* **** ** Ovar, ********.

**** *** ********** ************* many ** ***** *** products ** ***** *** facility.

*** ***** **** ** someone **** *** *** OEM **********

**** **** *** **** Dahua *** *** ********* is ********** *****. *** what **** ** **** a ******* ******** ************ is ****, **** ** what **** **** *******, * ******** ************ they *** ** ********.

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***** ** ** ******* safety **** ********, ******, and ********* **** *** manufacturing *****.

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* ***** **** ** exactly ********. ***** *** never **** * **** "software *******/********" *** ******** never **** **. **** do **** ****** ** designing *** ********** ***** own ******** *** **** is ***** *** **** focus **. ****** *******, the ***** ******* **** migrate ** ******* ********, which **** ******** * need *** ***** *** software/firmware ***********, *** **** is *** *** ******** And ****** ****** (****,******** *** ****** ****** systems ** ** ***-*****) "*******" *** *******. SAST **** ******* *** OS *** *** ********** components *** ** ****** as ******** ****. **, that ***** ** *** plan ** ****** **** of *** ******** *********** in *** *****.

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***** ******* **** ******* to ******* ********, ***** will ******** * **** for ***** *** ********/******** development, *** **** ** why *** ******** *** Safety ****** (****, ******** and ****** ****** ******* in ** ***-*****) "*******" was *******.

*** ***** *** **** are ********** ******** ** top ** *******. **'* not **** **** **** put ******* ** *** camera *** ****, "***** you **".

**, **** ***** ** the **** ** ****** away ** *** ******** development ** *** *****.

** *** ********, **** shows ** **** ***** is ******** ***** ** developing * ******** ******** that ** ***** ** Android *** **** **** Android.

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*** ***** *** **** are ********** ******** ** top ** *******. **'* not **** **** **** put ******* ** *** camera *** ****, "***** you **".

**** ** "********** ** Android *****" ********* *** cameras *** ******** ***** IoT *******, *** **** are ********** ** *** devices *** *** ********* on *** ** **. For ****, ** ** a **** ** "*** SASTdroid ** ****** *** say ***** *** **!", but "***" ***** * camera ************, *** ** end-user.

****** ****, ***** **** be ******** ** *** Android ****** ******* *********** for ********* ****, ***** is ********* **** ******* task **** ********** ********** by ********** (** **** are ***** ** ***).

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********* **** ******* **** than ********** ********** ** themselves (** **** *** doing ** ***).

********. *** **** ****** task ** ******** ******** the *** ******** *** Store *** ************** ** support ****, *****’* * lot ** ******** *********** involved ** ********** ****.

** *** **** ***** “everything ** **********” ***, I **** ********. ******* it ** ****, *****, Hikvision, ***., **** *** use ** ********* ****** of **** ****** ********.

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*** **** ****** **** is ******** ******** *** IOT ******** *** ***** and ************** ** ******* that, *****’* * *** of ******** *********** ******** in ********** ****.

**** ** *** ****'* responsibility *** ***** ****** firmware ********** *** ******* to ** **** ****. And ***, * ** separating **** *** ***** as *** ********* ************* (even *** **** ******* one, *** ** ** irrelevant ** **** *******).

** *** **** ***** “everything ** **********” ***, I **** ********. ******* it ** ****, *****, Hikvision, ***., **** *** use ** ********* ****** of **** ****** ********.

* ** *** ******* about ***** **** ** code, ** ** *** obvious *** ****** ******** in *** ******** ***********. I ** ******* ***** the ****** ****** **** OS, ****** *******, ********* plugins, ***. ***** ** no "******" ** ** any ***** ****** ***** now, ********** **** *** to *** ***** *** been ******* ** *** firmware ********** (*** ***, using * *** *** components ** **** ****** where *********).

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***** ** ** "******" OS ** *** ***** camera ***** ***,

**** ***** ** **** Bosch *** ********* *** own ** *** *** IP *******, ******* ***** any ****/***** ************?

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****, ***** ** ** real ** ** ***** cameras ** ** ********** term "**" *** ********** no ****/***** ** *** flavor. ** **** *** mean ***** ** ** implementation ** ******* ** OS *************, ** ** all ***-***** ****** ******** implementation. *** *** **** years **** *** *** still ** *** ** important ********** (********** **** the ***** ****** ***********) - *** ******* ****/***** back-doors *** ***** *** not ********** ** ***** camera ********. *******, ***** is * ******* **** that ** **** - you **** ** ********* (including *** ** *** components) ********** (******* *********, security, **********, ********* ******** components *******, ***.) ** yourself, ***** ** ******* harder *** **** *********** every ****. **** ** actually *** ** *** reasons ** ******* **** to *** ******** ******* OS *** ******* *** been ****** *** ****.

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**** *** ****** ******* about *********** ***** ***** ********* *********** **** ********** projects ** **** *** banned ******* ******** ** non-government ******** **** ***** to ************* **** ** Bosch?

** ***** **** ***** use ***** ******** ** the ******, **** *** entire **** ********* *** banned?

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#*, ** ****** ** **** ****, *** ***** ***** has *** ********* ** explained **** **** **** by '***', ** ** cannot ** ****. ** will ****** ** ** find **** ******* / information **** *** ** government.

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* ****** ** *** reasonable ******* *** **** into ****** ********?

******** ** *** **** a ***** ** ***, it ****** ** ***** in **** ****** *******.

*** **** ** * camera ** *** ******* an ******* ***** ** a ***** ***...

****** ***** **** ** hear ** *** ******** of ******* ***** **********...

** **** ** ****** (which ** **** ** for **** *** **** reasons), **** ** **** source ** ***** ***** disaster!

***** *** **** ******* zero **** **** *** potentially ********* ** *** enforcement *** ******** ******** worldwide.

** **** **** ***** to *** “** ********* looks **** * **** and ****** **** * rose, **** **’* ******** a ****”. **** **** not ***** ** **** case

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