Axis 20MP Q1659 Camera Tested

By: Ethan Ace, Published on Jun 13, 2017

Axis has joined the super high resolution camera trend with their Q1659, a 20MP model equipped with Canon's APS-C sensor.

We tested the Q1659 against Axis' current super low light and integrated IR models:

We tested:

  • Daytime image quality
  • Low light (<1lx) color image quality
  • Dark (<0.1lx) monochrome image quality
  • Performance with external IR
  • CPU load issues
  • VMS support
  • Multi-streaming support
  • Bandwidth/smart codecs

And more. See our full results inside.

**** *** ****** *** super **** ********** ****** trend ********* *****, * **** ***** equipped *********'* ***-* ******.

** ****** *** ***** against ****' ************ *** ****************** ** ******:

** ******:

  • ******* ***** *******
  • *** ***** (image *******
  • **** (quality
  • *********** **** ******** **
  • *** **** ******
  • *** *******
  • *****-********* *******
  • *********/***** ******

*** ****. *** *** full ******* ******.

[***************]

Further ******* ****** **

** **** ** **** the ***** ****** **. competitive ***** ****** ****** from ********, ****, ***. in ******** *****.

*******

** *** *****, *** Q1659 ******* *********** *** light *********** ********* **** Axis' ******** ***** *** light *** ********** ** models, **** ******** ***** time ****** *** ****** subject ******* *** ********* at *** ****** ******.

************, ***** *** *****'* ******** were **** ****** **** 1080p ****** (~*.* **/* day / ~** **/* night **. ~* **/* / * **/* ** 1080p), ********* ***** *** not ** ******* ** in **** **** ********** 4K+ ******. *******, **** broken **** ** **/* per *********, *** ***** consumes **** **** ********* per ** **** ***** cameras. 

***** ****** ****** ** CPU **** **** ********** the *****, ** ******* the ****** ****** **** larger ****** ** **** than ******* ***** ****** (~10-20% ** **** *** test ********, ****** *-*% for *****). ******* **** 1-2 ** ***** ******* with ******* ***** ******** cameras ** * ****** may ******** ************** ****** machines ****** *****-********* ** configured. *******, ***** ****** check **** ***** *** supports *****-********* **** **** model, ** ******** ******* Center ********* ** ********* streams, *** ***** ********* only *** ** *** tests (****** ******** ** Genetec *** *********).

Q1659 *******

**** ***** ******* ****** depending ** ***** **** is ****, **** ~$*,*** USD *** *** ****/**.* model ******* ~$*,*** *** the **-*****/**.* ****. 

**** ** * ***** ***** premium **** ******* ***** *** light *** ** ******. Compared ** ******* "*****" imager (~*/*"+) ***** *** light ****** **** ****' own*****(~$*,***) ** ************* ** *****-*(~$*,*** ****), *** ***** starts ** ****** ** the ****.

Physical ********

*** ***** ****** **** itself ** ******* ** an ********* ******* ** other * ****** ******. Aside **** *** ******* different **** *** **** mount, ******** ** *** camera *** ******* ** other *** ******, **** I/O, *****, *** ******* storage. *******, *** ***** also ******** * *** (Small **** ****** *********) slot, ******** ***** ** directly ******* ***** ** the ******.

**** **** **** ****** other **** ***** *******, such ** *** **** VB770 ** ******** ***, the ***** ******** * mechanical ** *** ******, making ** ** *********. 

Significant *** ******

** *** *****, ******* the **** ********** **** stream ******** ** ********* in *** **** ** 8-10% ****** *** *** and ~**% ** ***** when ******* *** ******* noise *********. ***** ********* were ******* ** *** machines (***** *****) *** using **** *********** *** Genetec ******** ****.

**** ******** **** ****** a ******* ***** ****** was *********** *****, ********* a ******** ** * percent.

****** * (******):

  • ******* ** ***
  • ***** **** **-****** *.* GHz
  • **** ***
  • ****** ******* ** ****

****** * (*******):

  • ******* ** ***
  • *** ***-**** *.** ***
  • *** ***
  • ****** ******* ** *** Ti

VMS/Multistreaming *******

** **** **** ** connect *** ***** ** Avigilon, *****, *******, *** Milestone ******* *****. **** that ** ** ********* listed ** ********* **** by ***** *** *******.

************** ******* ** **** thereof ****** ** ***:

  • ******** ******* ******:** ********* ******, **** 20MP ****** ****
  • ***********: **** ****** **** *** ********** stream
  • ******* ******** ****:**** *.*** *** *** MJPEG ******* (***** *****)
  • ********* ********: **** *.*** *** *** MJPEG *******

 

 

Test *****

** ****** *** ***** in ** **** ******* lot/field, ~***' **** *****, shown *****. * **** lens *** ****, ****** the ****** * ~**° angle ** ****:

*** ******** ***** ***** the ********* ****:

Daytime: ******* ******* ** **** ** *****

****** *** ***, ** 60' ********, ******* ** all ******* *** ******, but *** ***** ***** very **** ******* *** to >** *** *** of ***** ******.

******** ******** *** *** width, *** ***** ***** shows *********** ****** ******* of *** *******, ***** only ***** *********/******** ******* are ******* ** *** 1080p ******. *** ***** models ******* **** **** 1 ** *** **** chart ***** *** ***** is ******* ** **** 6/7.

** ~***' ********, ***** subject ******* *** ***** visible, ** **** ** 2-3 ***** ** *** test *****, ***** ** details *** ******* ** the ***** *******, **** detection.

*** **** ** **** at ***', *** ******** distance ******. *** *******'* clothing *** **** ***** are ***********, ** *** 2 ***** ** *** test *****, ** *** Q1659.

Low ***** ***** ****: ****** ******* / ********* 

****, ** ****** ** night **** ******** ****** on ** *** *** cameras ********* ** ***** mode ** *****. ***** levels **** ~*.**** ***** to *** ********, ******** to ~*.** ** ~***'.

** ***** *****, *** test ***** ** ****** out ******** ** *** 1080p ******, **** **** 1-2 ***** *******. *******, subject ******* ** *** Q1659 **** **** ******** than ***** *******, **** recognizable ****** *******.

** ~***' ********, ***** subject ******* *** ******* in *** *****, ***** with ***** *-* ** the **** *****, ***** both ***** ****** ******* detection ****.

*******, ** ~***' ******** (~41PPF), *** ******* ** still ****** ********** ** the *****, *** ******** by ***** ** *** other *******.

Dark ********** ****: ***** ****** *******

** **** ****** **** exterior ****** ***, ******** to ~*.** *** **** the ***** *** ***** in ********** ****, *** IR ******* ** *** P3225 ** **. **** that *** **** *** 3/4 **** ** *** time ** *******, *** only ****** ** ***** in *** ******* ** the *****. 

** ~**', *-* ***** of *** **** ***** are ******* ** *** Q1659, ***** **** *** first **** ** ******* in ******. **** ****** details *** ******* ** the *****, ** **** as *** *******'* ********. The */*" *********** ***** shows ***** ****** ******* of *** *******, ***** the ***** *********** ******** detection ****.

******* **** *** *******, the ***** ******** ***** detection ** *** *******, while ** ** ********* to ****** ** ***** cameras.

*******, ** ***', *** subject ** ********* ** detect ** *** *****, and **** ** ******* noise ** ******.

Added ** ************: ***** ******** *******/*********

****** **** ***** ****** surveillance *******, **** ** the ******** *** ****** or ****'* *****, *** Q1659 ******** * ********* IR *** ******, ****** it ** ********* ** night. ******* ** ****, we ****** *********** ** the ****** ****** **** a****** ***** ** (*** our ****)** *** *** ******** IR ******* ***********.

***** *** **° ****, the ***** *** * ***** of ****/~***'. *** **** below ***** *** ******* illuminated ** **** ******** in *** ***** (** the **** ** *** large ******* ****), *** no ******* *** *********.

** ***** *****, ******* of *** ******* *** clear ** *** *****, with *** ***** ******* to **** *. *** Q1635 ** ****** *** by ****** ************, *** the *****'* ********** ** much ****** **** *** added ******.

******** ********, ******* ** the ******* *** ***** clear ** *** *****, with * ***** ** the **** ***** *******, while **** ********* ** possible ** ***** *******.

*******, ** ~***', *** subject ** ***** ****** detectable ** **** *** Q1659 *** *****, ****** without *******.

Framerate ***********

*** ***** ** ******* to * *** ** its **** **** **********, limited ******** ** **** 4K/12MP ****** ***** **** 30 ** ** ****** as *******.

** ** ******* ** the ******* ** **** framerate, ** *** ** the ****** ** * busy ****. *** ***** SUV ******** **** *** right, ********* ~** ***, moves ~**' ******* **** frame. ** ********, ** a ** *** ******, the ******* ***** **** only **** **** **' per *****, ********* **** more ******** ****** **** the **** ****.

**** * ******* ******* across *** ***** ** view, ** ***** ***** 2.5' **** *****. ** a ** *** ******, he ***** **** **** a *** ******. 

Sample *****

********** ******* *** ******** day *** ***** ***** of *** ***** ** its **** ** ********* resolution ** ****~*** ** .*** ****, ******* *** ******* walking **** ~***' ** the ****** ********.

Bandwidth **********

*** *****'* ******** **** ****** than ***** ******* ******, with ******** ** **** 10 **/* ** *****, but *** ***** ******* compared ** ** *** higher ********** ******* ** past ***** (***** ** Mb/s+). ** **** ** cover **** ** ******** shootouts ******* *********** ***** imager ******.

**** **** *** ******* in **** **** **************** *. ******* **** *** to ********* **** **** Dynamic *** *** ** 1200.

**** ****** **** ** bitrate *** *********, *** Q1659 ** *** ****** camera ****** ** ***, coming ** **-**% ***** than *** ***** ******.

Test **********

  • **** *****:*.**.*
  • **** *****:*.**.*.*
  • **** *****-*** ****:*.**.*

Comments (18)

Nice evaluation.  Good performance! 

It would be very interesting to see how it compares against the other brands.

Agreed! And we will be testing it against others in reports coming up. We are in the process of organizing those tests now.

I would really like to see depth of field also tested at various f-stops. I have found DoF to be a huge issue with these large sensor cameras. To compensate for the lack of day/night in the competing brands a low f-stop (at least f2.8 or not down to f1.4) is necessary but as a result you loose your DoF. Even better would be an IPVM DoF calculator:)

This is more of an issue with full frame sensors than APC-C sensors.  I have had DoF issues when using the Avigilon 30MP cameras compared to the 8MP and 16MP.  We have done shots where with the 30MP we could not get the whole image in focus but the issues went away with the 16MP and 8MP.

Across the board it is a very competitive product.  The bandwidth utilization will compare very favorably simply due to the smart codec.

Thanks Ethan!  Nice job.

VB770 vs Q1659. Test a train passing in the night at about 100 feet away and as low lux as you can find out in the country. Make sure your ISO are set the same.

Great test - can't wait to see it against the other high MP options!

As said this one against the Sony VB770 would be very interesting.

Great write up.

 

Sounds like a pretty significant load on the VMS. I'd be interested in understanding what the VMS impact is with multiple being viewed simultaneously on the client PC spec you have outlined above. How many can be viewed, etc.? What's the driving factor behind the high CPU uptick? Is that the load from server side motion processing or something else?

The CPU load measured is on the client side, not server. Exacq doesn't do server side motion, and it was turned off in Genetec. 

On the server side, CPU usage didn't spike abnormally. Load on both VMSes was simply a function of throughput, as with lower resolution models. We did not test server side motion load, but that's a good thought. Usually that processing is done on a substream, regardless.

Was the Intel equipped client utilizing Intel's Quick sync on the Mobo? I know this has to be turned on in the BIOS when also utilizing with a discreet graphics card.  I know Milestone's client is supposed to utilize it and I think Genetec does as well.  This might bring down the CPU load.

Good question! We did not test with Quick Sync, since the machines both have discrete NVidia cards. But I can check that when we put the camera up for testing again.

Thank you for the informative report,

We would like to see and know more about the user experience with this camera from an operational prospective when you have 50 plus cameras connected to a VMS and displayed on a video wall.

In an operational environment things go fast, zooming in and out, doing live and playback at the same time, exporting clips, panning left and right to track an individual, all while you have 50 plus cameras displayed on the video wall .

I also appreciate the bandwidth saving graphs you shared with us by using  Zip stream, what type of activity was the camera recording for these tests? We would like to know if this can be applied in an environment where there is is constant activity: like stadium or airport, etc.. will be interesting to see how useful Zip stream will be there.  

 

I think this is a more realistic shot and bandwidth that you will see from this camera in the real world.   ~19 Mbps  20MP Zipstream High and Dynamic GOP 120 at 8FPS

Stadiums and Airports would be higher as the FOV would be more complex than this shot. 

He is a link to the full 20MP image. 

 

 

 

Hello,

I'd also suggest to add the 4K mode as well, where it delivers the full 25fps - I think this might be more often used than the full-blown 20MP mode.

I didn't understand why to do a comparison between 4K, 20MP and 1080p cameras.. is almost like to compare bananas and watermelons, does not make sense. I think the right Axis camera to be compared with Dahua HF8835F is P1368, dont you think?
Of course the 20MP sensor camera will perform worst in dark and will generate a biger net troughput.

I would like to see a Axis Q1659 vs Avigilon 24L-H4PRO-B super hight resolution cameras comparison. It would be interesting.

Login to read this IPVM report.
Why do I need to log in?
IPVM conducts unique testing and research funded by member's payments enabling us to offer the most independent, accurate and in-depth information.

Related Reports

Pelco GFC 4K Dome Camera Tested (IMP831-1ERS) on Mar 12, 2019
Pelco has finally released their first 4K IP camera, after years of competitors' releases. Is this move too late? Or is their new GFC Professional...
Vivotek 20MP Multi-Imager Tested on May 30, 2019
Vivotek has released their latest repositionable multi-imager camera, the MA9321-EHTV, a 20 MP model claiming "Supreme Night Visibility", "Optimal...
Bosch Starlight 8000i Cameras Tested on Jul 23, 2019
Bosch has released their new Flexidome IP Starlight 8000i cameras, claiming "exceptional detail even in extreme low-light situations." To see...
Hikvision 4K Camera Shootout on Aug 02, 2019
With their latest Smart Series 5 cameras, Hikvision is claiming cameras "fully loaded" with "state-of-the-art technology for high performance and...
Hanwha 4K Wisenet P Camera Tested on Jul 30, 2019
Hanwha claims "premium performance" and to "deliver the best in high resolution performance and efficiency" with their Wisenet P series 4K models,...
Axis 4K Camera Shootout 2019 on Aug 14, 2019
Axis' 4K Q3518-LVE claims the "best video quality possible", with Lightfinder super low light performance, Axis' high end Forensic WDR, and...
WDR Camera Mega Shootout 2019 - Avigilon, Axis, Bosch, Dahua, Hanwha, Hikvision, Panasonic, Vivotek on Sep 04, 2019
This is the biggest WDR Shootout ever, with 23 cameras from 8 manufacturers: We included true multi-exposure WDR and non-WDR models, ranging...
Panasonic 4K Camera Tested (WV-S2570L) on Sep 13, 2019
Panasonic has released their latest generation 4K dome, the WV-S2570L, claiming "Extreme image quality allows evidence to be captured even under...
Color Low Light Mega Camera Shootout - Avigilon, Axis, Bosch, Dahua, Hanwha, Hikvision, Panasonic, Speco, Sony, Vivotek on Nov 12, 2019
This is the biggest color low light shootout ever, testing 20+ super low light models from 10 manufacturers: Increasingly, each manufacturer...
Axis Next Gen P32 Camera Tested (P3245-LVE) on Dec 18, 2019
Axis has released the next generation of their widely used P32 camera series, now with their current ARTPEC-7 chip, claiming their imaging...

Most Recent Industry Reports

Breaking Into A Facility Using Canned Air Tested on Jan 28, 2020
Access control is supposed to make doors more secure, but a $5 can of compressed air may defeat it. With no special training, intruders can...
ROG Security - Cloud AI For Remote Monitoring on Jan 28, 2020
ROG Security is offering cloud-based AI analytics to remote guard companies, by touting having "nothing to install" to "add virtual guards." We...
Brivo Business Profile 2020 on Jan 27, 2020
Brivo has been doing cloud access for more than 20 years. Is the 2020s the decade that cloud access becomes the norm? CEO Steve Van Till recently...
Favorite VMS / NVR Manufacturers 2020 on Jan 27, 2020
In 2018, a new winner emerged and a former top choice declined. Now, there is a new #1, a new top 5 finisher and 2 major VMSes in decline. Our...
"Hikvision Football Arena" Lithuania Causes Controversy on Jan 24, 2020
Controversy has arisen in Lithuania over Hikvision becoming a soccer team's top sponsor and gaining naming rights to their arena, with one local MP...
Axis and Genetec Drop IFSEC 2020 on Jan 23, 2020
Two of the best-known video surveillance manufacturers are dropping IFSEC International 2020, joining Milestone who dropped IFSEC in 2019. The...
Multipoint Door Lock Tutorial on Jan 23, 2020
Despite widespread use, locked doors are notoriously weak at stopping entry, and thousands can be misspent on locks that leave doors quite...
Avigilon Shifts Cloud Strategy - Merges Blue and ACC on Jan 23, 2020
Avigilon is shifting its cloud strategy, phasing out its Blue web-managed surveillance platform as a stand-alone brand and merging it with its ACC...
Verkada Paying $100 For Referrals Just To Demo on Jan 22, 2020
Some companies pay for referrals when the referral becomes a customer. Verkada is taking it to the next level - paying $100 referrals fees simply...
Camera Analytics Shootout 2020 - Avigilon, Axis, Bosch, Dahua, Hanwha, Hikvision, Uniview, Vivotek on Jan 22, 2020
Analytics are hot again, thanks to a slew of AI-powered cameras, but whose analytics really work? And how do these new smart cameras compare to top...