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Comments (25)
Scot MacTaggart
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Ari Erenthal
09/17/15 03:22pm
I'd like to be able to sell a vehicle camera kit based around the F44.
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Undisclosed #1
Only one Milestone license required, right?
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Ron Miller
Sorry guys, but I think you have it wrong here. This just an F-Series IP camera with 4 heads (sensors) that can be mounted in different housings. The Main Unit is actually the processor(s) for the sensors. Like the F44 you put SD cards in to record...sorry but I don't believe this is a DVR. When tyou get one I'll bet you can connect this to a larger system via network if you choose.
Let me know if I'm wrong!
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Matt Ion
BTW, I've spec'd an F44 and a pair of F1035-Es for a restaurant patio installation... they were sent to site for me but the site isn't ready for them yet, so I shipped them home... once they get here I'll give them a good work-out, feeding to a Vigil NVR (no edge recording in this case).
Just to give fair coverage to the other side of this coin: on sites with existing analog cameras, we've stopped sourcing Vigil hybrid DVRs, and instead started installing Vigil NVRs and EYEsurv (Dahua) DVRs used as encoders. No hard drive, no recording on the DVR, just strictly generating streams for the NVR. So is it still really a DVR, if it's not recording? Are the analog cameras now technically IP cameras, just because they're now a single interface unit and separate sensors, each connected by a single long cable?
Or is this just the next natural step in the debate over whether all-IP systems are still "closed-circuit TV"? Hmmmm....
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Ron Miller
First no, it is no an encoder, sensors just send the light data to a processor to arrange into a picture. This unit just adds 3 additional sensors to the original P12 covert camera Axis offers which is the same concept.
Think of it this way take the sensor out of the camera put it in a package with a lens and mount it remotely then process the digital data (ones and zeros) that the sensor send down the wires (hence the cable limit originally 8m, F44 increased to 15m) to the processor which then does the heavy lifting of things like WDR and Lightfinder...along with the digital/IP output. All IP cameras work this way...Ethan may be able to describe it a bit better???
As far as the recording goes, most IP cameras today record to SD cards onboard and some even have an HDMI output ( Axis M1025), Although I did not see one on the F34.
The big difference here is that a DVR does not directly take the digital signal from a camera sensor and process the data into an image...this is what the main unit here does.
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John Honovich
Update: Axis has confirmed MSRP pricing for the system of $799, which is the low end of the range we previously estimated, showing that Axis is providing a significant discount relative to the individual components.
That will still be a few hundred premium over other low cost / small business HD systems (via TVI, CVI, AHD, etc.).
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Whitey Helberg
We had problems with the SD cards working with this pachage
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John Honovich
Fascinating poll results breakdown. Integrators really dislike this system but manufacturers like it.
75% of integrators find it non attractive with only 18% who do
45% of manufacturers find it attractive, with just 40% who say not attractive
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Undisclosed Integrator #2
The. Better question to ask regarding this unit is what is the target market the small to medium market mentioned is very price sensitive and the Chinese ip brands hik and dahua units with embedded POE come in at the same MSRP The distance you can run the cat5 cable make the Chinese product more attractive
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Michael Mathieson
Has anybody any experience with this system yet I am looking for something to record in a kiosk environment in a mall so space is at a premium. Cabling distance would be minimal however would like any real world experience as to recording time on the 64GB cards probably looking at only two cameras
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John Honovich
Here is Axis' unboxing video for the kit:
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