Avigilon Sales Warning: Panoramics 'Useless for Investigation', 'Evidence Dismissed'

Author: John Honovich, Published on Jun 28, 2016

Are panoramics useless for investigation? Will evidence from those cameras be dismissed?

That is what an Avigilon sales person told one of our members. In this note, we examine the claims, share feedback from Avigilon corporate and review the risks of such sales tactics. 

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Comments (22)

Eddie Perry

06/28/16 02:12pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Eddie Perry | 06/28/16 02:38pm

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Eddie Perry

In reply to John Honovich | 06/28/16 02:56pm

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Undisclosed Distributor #2

In reply to John Honovich | 06/28/16 05:34pm

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Undisclosed #1

In reply to Eddie Perry | 06/29/16 05:10am

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Kevin Nadai

06/28/16 04:38pm
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In reply to Kevin Nadai | 06/28/16 10:30pm
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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Campbell Chang | 06/28/16 10:34pm

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Undisclosed #1

In reply to Kevin Nadai | 06/29/16 04:29am

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Kevin Nadai | 07/01/16 08:52pm

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06/28/16 05:08pm

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Undisclosed #1

06/28/16 05:32pm

Defense ********: You have been shown three seperate clips of compelling video evidence; of the killer at the entrance, the murder itself and the hasty exit. Yet, by the prosecution's own admission there was just one camera, I ask how is this possible?

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06/28/16 07:00pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 06/28/16 09:04pm

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In reply to John Honovich | 06/28/16 09:21pm
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Marty Major

FLIR Security | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 06/30/16 04:42pm

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In reply to Marty Major | 06/30/16 04:57pm

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Undisclosed #1

06/30/16 07:54am

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John Honovich

IPVM | 07/01/16 08:45pm

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Michael Miller

In reply to John Honovich | 07/01/16 09:48pm

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Undisclosed #1

In reply to John Honovich | 07/02/16 08:59am

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John Honovich

IPVM | 08/30/16 12:47am

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