Avigilon Sales Warning: Panoramics 'Useless for Investigation', 'Evidence Dismissed'

Author: John Honovich, Published on Jun 28, 2016

Are panoramics useless for investigation? Will evidence from those cameras be dismissed?

That is what an Avigilon sales person told one of our members. In this note, we examine the claims, share feedback from Avigilon corporate and review the risks of such sales tactics.

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Comments (22)

Eddie Perry

| 06/28/16 02:12pm

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Eddie Perry | 06/28/16 02:38pm

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Eddie Perry

In reply to John Honovich | 06/28/16 02:56pm

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In reply to John Honovich | 06/28/16 05:34pm

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| 06/28/16 04:38pm
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In reply to Kevin Nadai | 06/28/16 10:30pm
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IPVM Admin | In reply to Campbell Chang | 06/28/16 10:34pm

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In reply to Kevin Nadai | 06/29/16 04:29am

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified / IPVM Admin | In reply to Kevin Nadai | 07/01/16 08:52pm

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| 06/28/16 05:08pm

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Undisclosed 1

| 06/28/16 05:32pm

Defense ********: You have been shown three seperate clips of compelling video evidence; of the killer at the entrance, the murder itself and the hasty exit. Yet, by the prosecution's own admission there was just one camera, I ask how is this possible?

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| 06/28/16 07:00pm

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | In reply to Undisclosed 1 | 06/28/16 09:04pm

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In reply to John Honovich | 06/28/16 09:21pm
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In reply to Undisclosed 3 Integrator | 06/30/16 04:42pm

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In reply to Marty Major | 06/30/16 04:57pm

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| 06/30/16 07:54am

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | 07/01/16 08:45pm

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Michael Miller

In reply to John Honovich | 07/01/16 09:48pm

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In reply to John Honovich | 07/02/16 08:59am

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John Honovich

IPVM Admin | 08/30/16 12:47am

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