Canon Company Arcules Violates ONVIF Rules

By John Honovich, Published Feb 02, 2021, 09:37am EST

Arcules, the Canon / Milestone spinout, is violating ONVIF rules.

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We raised this with Arcules 3 weeks ago. We raised this with ONVIF last week.

The issue is simple. Arcules is not ONVIF conformant but markets being so using ONVIF's logo in violation of ONVIF's rules.

The issue is important. The most common ONVIF problem we see is integrations not working by products that falsely claim to be ONVIF conformant.

UPDATE: After publication of this report, Arcules made changes that attempt to address this but raise more concerns.

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* ***** ***,******* ************* ****** ******* ************ their ***** ******* *** use ** *** ***** logo:

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**** ********* ***** ********* ******* ********** **** *** *** ONVIF **** ** **** as ********* '** **** device ******** ****** ***** standards, ** **** ****!':

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** ********* ** ********:

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******* *** *** **** about *** ***** **********, falsely ******** ****:

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ONVIF *****

*****'* ***** *** ***** about *** ******** *** use ** *** ***** logo ** *********** **** product ******* ******,**** *** ******** *****:

***** ***** *** *** word “*****” ****** ** used ** *********** **** any **** ** ****** that ***** **** *** public ** *******, ** create * ****** ** indirect *********, **** * non-conformant ******* *** *** the ***** *********** ************ or ************* **** ***** ONVIF ********.

***** **** **** ********* in ******* ****:

******** *** *** ***** standards *** *** *** use *** ***** **** nor ***** ** ** ONVIF ********** ******* ********** that *******

******* *** *** ********* the ***** ********** *******,*** *****'* ******** ********:

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*** **** ******** **** might ** ****** ** that ***** ***** ** example ** *** ***** the ***** ******* **** for ******** **** *** not **********:

***** *********** ****** ***** include ********* * ******* to ** “***** **********” or ***** ***ONVIF ******* **** on a product when the conformance process has not been followed.

***** **** *****, **** specific **** ** *** allowed:

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*** *** ***** **** (without *** ******* ***** it) ***** ** *******.

*******, **** **** **** cites *** ***** ***** policy:

*** *******, **** ************** ******* ******* *** details ** *** ** submit * ********** ******* here*** *********** ** ******** to ******** ***** *** ********* Usage ******.

*** *** ***** ***** policy ************ ****:

***** ***** *** *** word “*****” ****** ** used ** *********** **** any **** ** ****** that ***** **** *** public ** *******, ** create * ****** ** indirect *********, **** * non-conformant ******* *** *** the ***** *********** ************ or ************* **** ***** ONVIF ********.

*** ***** ****** **** not *******.

**** **** ** *** new, ****** **** **** when***** ******** **** **** had ****** *** ** enforce ***** ************** ******* *** ******* Milestone ******** ***** ***** by ******* *** ** their ******** *** ********* ONVIF ****** **** ****** it *** *** ******* ONVIF.

Arcules ** **********

******* ***** ****** ** the '****** ** ******* and ******':

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*** ***** ********* ** its ********* ***** ******* like *******, *** *** answer ** **.

UPDATE: ******* *******

***** **** ********* **** article, ******* **** ******* to *** *******, ***** below:

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*** ******* *** **** changed **** '** **** device ******** ****** ***** standards, ** **** ****!' to "** **** ** camera ** ***** **********, it **** ******* ** Arcules!" ************, **** **** added * ******** ****** "Please **** **** ******* is *** ** ***** conformant *******. ******* ******** IP ******* **** *** ONVIF **********.

************, *** ***** **** IPVM * *******, ******:

***** *** ********** ********* this ***** **** *******, and **** **** ******* the ********* ** ***** conformance ** ***** *******.

******, **** ** * footnote **** ******* ** not ** ***** ********** product ** ** *********** but **** *** ****** to ** ******** **** the **** *********** '** will ******* ** *******!'

*** ***** ** ***** conformance ** ** **** and ******** ******* * product **** ******* ***** supports ***** *******.

Comments (18)

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Christoph Derndorfer-Medosch

Netavis Software GmbH
02/02/21 03:20pm

* ****** **** *** my ***** ******** **** I **** **** **** sentence:

"*** ***** ********* ** its ********* ***** ******* like *******, *** *** answer ** **."

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Ross Vander Klok

IPVMU Certified | 02/02/21 06:57pm

* *** *** ***** with **** *** *** saying *** ***'* ***** 100% ********* ** *** members? ** ********* ******* publicly ***** ******** *** them ** * ***** position. ******* ******* ** not *** ** *** most ****-***** ***** *** is ** *** ***** end ** *** ********** levels *** * ****** nonetheless. * ***** **** that ****** *** ****** there ***** ** * phone **** **** **** "Hey, **** ********* **** you *** ***** ** become ********** ** ****** the ****?"

** ******* ** **** but *** **** ***** Onvif ***** *** ** you ** "***, ****** John *** *** *****! They *** *** *** base **** *** **** be ****** ** ********* cease *** ******!" * can *** *** ******* title ** **** *** though!!

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Michael Gonzalez

Integrated Security Technologies, Inc.
In reply to Ross Vander Klok | 02/02/21 09:44pm

*** ******** ********* ******** how ******* **** ******* to **, **** ** true ** ********* *** situation. * *****, ** the ***** *** ** call **** *** ******** for ******* ********, **** mission ************. ** *** intent *** ***** ****** from * ******* ***** to *** **** ** comply, ****...*** ** ****.

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Randy Lines

In reply to Ross Vander Klok | 02/03/21 01:51am

************ ********. **** ********* make *** ********* ***** seems ** ** *** case. * ***** **** integrity **** *** *** long **** *** **** parties. * ********** **** important *************** ***** ** that ***** *********** *********. What **** **** ***** have ** * ******* that **** *** *** actively ********* **********.

**** * ********* ***** of ****, ** * member ** ******** ***-********* (which * ** *** suggesting ** *** **** here) *** ***** ***** them, **** ***** ** better **** ****. ********* in ** ***** :)

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Ross Vander Klok

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Randy Lines | 02/03/21 01:21pm

***** ***%! * ** not ***** **** ***** not ****** ******** ********, I *** *********** **** they ***** ** ******** from ***** ***. *********, "We **** **** **** of ****, **** *** in * ****** *****." Which ** *******, ** exactly **** ********. ***, would **** **** **** that ******* ****? * strongly ***** **.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Ross Vander Klok | 02/03/21 01:57pm

***, ***** **** **** done **** ******* ****? I ******** ***** **.

** **** ****, ******* them ****** ****** ** time ** ** ********* after ** ****** *** concerns, **** **** *** something ******** ***** ** published **** *******.

**** ******* ****** **********. Ethics *** ***** *** rules *** ********** ****** they **** *** ************ of *** *****.

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Corbin Hambrick

In reply to John Honovich | 02/03/21 05:05pm

"**** **** *** ********* publicly ***** ** ********* this *******."

...*** ********* *** *** reason *** * ********** IPVM. ...***** **** *** industries *** ********* ******* to **** **** ********* on *** **-***-**.

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

02/02/21 08:49pm

***** **** ******************** ***.

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John Honovich

IPVM | 02/02/21 03:33pm

***** **** ********* **** article, ******* **** ******* to *** *******, ***** below:

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*** ******* *** **** changed **** '** **** device ******** ****** ***** standards, ** **** ****!' to "** **** ** camera ** ***** **********, it **** ******* ** Arcules!" ************, **** **** added * ******** ****** "Please **** **** ******* is *** ** ***** conformant *******. ******* ******** IP ******* **** *** ONVIF **********.

************, *** ***** **** IPVM * *******, ******:

***** *** ********** ********* this ***** **** *******, and **** **** ******* the ********* ** ***** conformance ** ***** *******.

******, **** ** * footnote **** ******* ** not ** ***** ********** product ** ** *********** but **** *** ****** to ** ******** **** the **** *********** '** will ******* ** *******!'

*** ***** ** ***** conformance ** ** **** and ******** ******* * product **** ******* ***** supports ***** *******.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

02/03/21 01:38am

*** ******* **** ** understand **** ********, ********* effect **** ****** ***** have? * **** * understand *** ********** ****, and * **** ** lack *** *********** ** come ** **** * scenario ***** * ******** would ** ****** ** this ********** ******* * cloud *** ********** *** ONVIF-comformant ******* *** *** being "**********" ******. * respect *** ***** ** standards *** *********-**********, *** that ** *** *** matters ******** **** ****** customer ******.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2 | 02/03/21 01:13pm

****, **** ********.

******** ***** ** ****** by **** ********** ******* a ***** *** ********** all *****-********** ******* *** not ***** "**********" ******

**** *** *** ****** asking ** *** ** conformant ** ***? ** more *************, *** **** any ************ *****? *******, everyone ***** **** ***** that **** ******* *****.

************ ***** (******* **'* the ******* ** *** NFL, *** *** *** college **********, ** *********** testing) *** **** **********. But ****** **** ************ test ** ****** **** just ******* ******** ***** they *** ****/******, *****, support *****.

****** *** ****** **** ONVIF *********** ******* ** signifies **** *** ****** has **** **** **** of ************ ******* ****** than ****** ****** ** works **** *****.

**** **** **** *****?

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to John Honovich | 02/03/21 04:48pm

****, ** * ******** example * ***** **** happened ** *** **** world ** *** ***** days ** * **** one.

**** ***.*** **** ***, there *** * **** of **************** ****** **** gear **** ********* *************. While *** ************* ******* to ******* *** ********, in ******** **** ****'* so *** *** * mess. ***** *** **** Alliance **** * *** party ******* *** ************* process *** ****** *** of *** ******** **** away.

* **** ** ***** conformance *** **** ***. I **** **** ******* stepped ** ** ** least ******* **** ******* on ***** ****. *** reality ** **** ***** product ** ************** ** their **** ******** ** provide *** **** ** ONVIF ***********. ******* *** support ** ******* ****** mentions ** ****** ***** be ******* *** *********.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 02/03/21 04:54pm

**** ***** ***'* **** PTZ *******???

******** ********** ** ******************** *** **** ***** have ** **** ***** issues...

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to John Honovich | 02/03/21 05:02pm

** ******* ** ** now. * ******* **'* a ****** ** **********, they're ***** ****** **** it ***** ** ** more ******** ******, ** if **** ****** * large ******** *** ****** PTZ ******* * ****** it ***** ** ***** quickly.

* **** ***** ************, the ****** ** ****** and **** ** **** a **** ********** ******** but ** **** ***** they **** ** ** missing **** ** *** fundamentals **** ***** ***** systems ****.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 02/03/21 05:11pm

****'** ***** ******

**** *** ***, ********** small, ******** ** ***** competitors. **** *******, **** are ******* **** **** were * ***** ***:

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** **** ** *********** to *** *** **** they *** ** **** this ******* *********** ******** to **** ******.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

02/03/21 02:59pm

***** ***** * ******* going *** ** ***, requiring ***** ********** ********. If ***** ***'* ********, and ** **** *****'* work, *** ** **** holding *** ***. ** is **** **** ***** is * **** ** cert ** ***** ************** on ********. **** ******* it ***** *****'* ****** the ******** ** *** certification. **** *** **** there ***** ** ****** or ***** ****** *** working. ** **** ***** not ***** *** ********* on *** ******* ******** conformance...

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Undisclosed Integrator #4

02/03/21 04:30pm

****** ***, ***** ** no *** ******* ***** is * "****-****". **'* on ***** ******* ******* list, *******, **** *** not ** ****** *** their ***** ************* *******.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

04/15/21 10:47pm

****** ******* *** *** actually ****** *** ***** camera ***** **** *** exact ******** *** *** exact *** *******, ****** pack, ***, **** ** that ** ***** ** at ***** * ***** more ******** ** ** than ***** "***********".

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