Hikvision Salespeople: We Don't Need A Blackbody

Published May 13, 2020 16:22 PM

Dahua jumped out on its cross-town rival selling fever cameras but Hikvision salespeople are fighting back, arguing that, unlike Dahua, Hikvision does not need a blackbody.

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Inside this note, we examine these statements, the match up between the two, the negatives and positives of blackbodies and the risk in this sales pitch.

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********* ** ************** / *********** ************* *** ******* * *********, ** this******* **** ***** ************:

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*** **** ********* ********** ** *********** accuracy - **** * *********, ********* says **** *** ****** ±*.*°* (±*.**°*) and ******* * ********* ±*.*°* (±*.*°*). For *******, ** *** ****** *********** of * ****** *** **.*°*, ********* is ****** ***** ***********, ******* * blackbody, ***** **** ******* **.*°* ** 99.5°F.

Salespeople ******* ** *********

** **** **** ******** ******* **** the **** *** ***** ** ********* salespeople ******** *** ******* ** ********* not ****** * *********.

*** *******, *** **** *** ****** to ******* ********* ********* ********* *********'* claim ****:

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************'* ***** ******** * ******* ***** ** ********** this:

**** ***********, **** **** ** **** what ** **** * ***** **** camera, ***** ** *********** * ********* appliance **** **** ** ********** *** areas ** * ******* *****. ****** me, *** **** *** ******* **********. And ***** ** **** **********, *** don't **** ** ****. ** ***'* need *** ***, *** ********** ***** for ****, ***, ** ******* *** higher ******** ***********.

***** ******* **********:

*** ***** **** ** *** ****. There *** **** *********** *** ** I'll ***** **** ** ***** ****, that ** **** *** ***** ***. But *****, ** ** *** ***** on *** ********, ***** * *******.

No ************* **** *********

********* ********** ***** ************** ** **** saying:

“*** *** (****** ******** *******) ****** lineup ******* ** ** +/-*.** ********, and *** ******** *** ** **** higher ** ** +/-*.** ** ****** a ********* ***********”.

*******, **** ******** ** ******* ** Hikvision *********** ************ ******* ******* *** use ** ***********.

Negatives ** ***********

***** *** ******* ********* ** ***********:

  • **** *** **** (******* *** ******* them *** ********* ** *******)
  • **** *** ** * ********** *********** as **** **** ** ** *** up ** *** *** ** *** camera ***** ** ***** ****** *** moving
  • **** *** ** ******* *** ** position ***** ********* *** **** ** wrong *********** ********.

Positives ** ***********

*******, ***** ** * ***** ******** of *********** ** **** **** **** the ****** * ***** *********** ********* point ** ** ** ****** ** assess **** *********** ************ (*.*., ******* 98.6°F *** ***.*°*, ***.).

*** *** ******* ******* ***********, *.*.,**** **** *** ************* **** ************* *** *****, ****** **** ** **** ************* far **** ************ ** ***** ********** recommendations **** ***** ** ********* *** uses * ********* ********* ********.

Testing ** ********

** ****** *** **** ********* ******* temperature ******, ********* ***** ****-*** ****** and *********. ** **** ** ****** testing ** ** **** ** ******** and **** ******* *** ********.

Not ******* ** ****** ***** ********

*******, **** ** *** ******* ** far, ** *** ****** ***** ***** that ******** ** ****** ********* *** not ********* **** ** ***** ** being '**** ******.' ***** ********* *********** may **** ********** ** **** ***** deals **** **** '*** ***** **** is *** ****' ****, ********** * claimed ******** ** ±*.*°* ********* ***** of ****** ******** ** *** **** between ****** *** ***** ** ** small ('******' **.*°* *** * '*****' of ***.*°* ** ********* ** ****, ironically, ±*.*°*).

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Undisclosed #1
May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020
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May 13, 2020

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
May 14, 2020

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May 14, 2020
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May 14, 2020

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May 15, 2020

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May 14, 2020

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May 15, 2020

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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020
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May 13, 2020

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May 14, 2020
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Undisclosed #4
May 14, 2020
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May 14, 2020

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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020
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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020
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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020
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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020

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John Honovich
May 14, 2020
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #11
May 14, 2020

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May 14, 2020

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May 18, 2020

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May 13, 2020

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May 13, 2020

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John Honovich
May 14, 2020
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******: ***** **** *** *** ******* me ** ********:

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Marco Sanchez
May 14, 2020

* ****'* **** **** **** *** possible ** ********. *** ** *** block *******?! ****** *** * ******....

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John Honovich
May 14, 2020
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**** **** ****? ;)

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Marco Sanchez
May 14, 2020

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Srinath Kalluri
May 14, 2020

* ** ********* ** ************ #** is ****** **** *** ***** ** that **** ****** *** *** "***" bodies *** ****** *** **** ****** these ************ ** *** ****** ***** temperatures? ** *** ****** ** *** blackbody *********.

** **, * *** *** *** this *** ** * ******* ** many *************.

**** *********, * ** *********: ** the **** ** ******** ****** *** have ****** *** ***'* **** **? Or ******** ****** *** **** * fever *** **** ** ** **** anyway?

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Mathieu D'Hondt
Jun 02, 2020

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*******'* ** *****-** *** *********** ** 2 ********?

* *** ***** *** ** *** measurement ***********

* *** ****** ******* **** *********** and **** ***********.

* ***'* *** *** *** ***** "compute" ** ********** *** *********** ******* without ************ ** ***** *********** ******* (ambient ****, ********, ***) *** ******** data ***** *** ******* **** *********** for **** ******** ***********.

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**** ** **** **** ****, ** situations ***** ***** ** * *** of ********** *** ***** ***** **** the ****** ***** ** ************* ******** based ** *** ******** ******* ***** temperature. ******* ** ********** ***** ***** is *** ****** ********** **** ***'* work.

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Undisclosed #4
Jun 09, 2020
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***** ********* *********** *** **** ********** to **** ***** ***** **** **** 'the ***** **** ** *** ****' line...

*****.

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Jun 10, 2020

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