Have you guys heard of HD AVS? Someone contacted me from Clearview about their Panther HD AVS equipment, their claiming 1080p, 1,600 foot runs, no compression.
Testing AHD 2014
Published Sep 24, 2014 04:00 AM
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Comments (14)
John Bazyk
Sep 24, 2014Ethan Ace
Sep 24, 2014HD AVS looks like IC Realtime's term for HDCVI.
ClearView's page on the HD AVS recorder shows "Powered by IC Realtime", and IC Realtime's AVS1700 DVR is a relabel of the Dahua HCVR7204/7208 (the DVR we tested in our original HDCVI test).
Differing marketing terms for relabeled HDCVI gear is one of its main issues. Knowing whether HD AVS (IC Realtime) is compatible with Heritage HD (Q-See) is compatible with MPX (FLIR), just to name a few, is very difficult without a lot of market knowledge, research, or simply testing it yourself.
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Sep 24, 2014This reminds me of the "HDCCTV" vs "HDcctv" vs HD-SDI confusion. Is there a reason the silicon manufacturer producing these cannot write into their contract with the DVR manufacturers that HDCVI shall be known by no other name?
GW
George Whittaker
Sep 24, 2014because the
silicon manufacturers want to sell to
dvr manufacturers who want to dupe the
dvr buyers into thinking HD-XYZ is their own technology.
John Bazyk
Sep 24, 2014I asked this guy if it was a rebrand, he said they manufactured it, I thought it looked familiar.
I get a lot of calls where people tell me they manufacture it themselves and usually its Hikvision.
Ethan Ace
Sep 24, 2014Yeah, it's amazing how many companies will claim that, in the face of proof otherwise. Even big names. Some will also claim that they use "custom firmware" which is technically true, I guess...they change the logo. :)
From what I've seen there's a 98% chance it's Hikvision, Dahua, or Dynacolor.
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Sep 25, 2014Some of the big names truly change the firmware on OEM. Sometimes because they find things that the vendors don't believe are an issue (security or integrity/IP issues). Or for custom improvements and product compatibility. Not just logos and colors :)
Ethan Ace
Sep 24, 2014I believe because Dahua is so accustomed to being an OEM under a lot of different names, they simply didn't think about the potential benefit of having an HDCVI alliance of sorts, or keeping track of who is calling it what. It's not something they had to worry about with analog or IP cameras, as they were widely compatible, and a known territory. All these HD over coax variants and their many different names are still sort of the Wild West, and it remains to be seen which will last and which won't.
DA
Dawid Adamczyk
Sep 25, 2014Are you planning to test Samsung Beyond series (analog 1000TVL - 1280H) like SCB-5003 camera and SRD-476D DVR?
JH
John Honovich
Sep 25, 2014Dawid, I just ordered those two. We'll test it in October.
It's a weird approach - proprietary, strange pixel count / aspect ratio - 1280 x 576, not MP even in the best case scenario, etc. On the other hand, it's Samsung so I am sure there will be some member interest.
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
Sep 25, 2014What I am seeing in all of this is that the price of a good HD camera is falling and rock-bottom doesn't even begin to decribe it. IP retain an mount of flexibility that analog and its variants cannot (yet?) match. For smaller deploymnet however or those where there is an already in-place coaxial cable plan these are very attractive alternatives. As for those manufacturers, my personal experience with Hikvision DS-2 series showed me they (DS-2) were clearly superior to offering so called established brands (Axis, IQinvision, Arecont, Vivotek, etc). Good cameras are popping up at amazing prices . Reliability could be an issue but witout field reports not much one can say. The industry is a-changing . better bracefor it.
All the best
JC
Juan Carrillo
Sep 25, 2014Dear Ethan,
How do you think about a test with UTP cable with passive balun? It's just a suggestion, because I think to be an interesting comparision between HDCVI, AHD and HD-TVI about the perform on over long and low-grade cable. Maybe 200 meters it's good distance for test.
Best Regards.
Ethan Ace
Sep 26, 2014Hi Juan, we tested HDCVI over UTP, but I didn't repeat the test with AHD. We have HDTVI gear on the way, and will run the test for both of them when it arrives. I'll add it in here when we're done. Thanks!
AA
Andres Agredo
Jun 03, 2015Can I use Decoder (analog to IP converter) with this news HD analog cameras?
the reason is I want the low latenty and easy to connect (at the operation side)
but the recording option by NVR (supervision/IT side)