Subscriber Discussion

You Are All Over The Map Relating Your Dislike For Verkada's Licensing Model

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 07, 2023

Erm... I think you are all over the map on this one in an attempt to somehow relate your dislike for Verkada's licensing model to a cost-of-sales methodology.

"Milestone [is] only selling one lower priced part"? How much is a typical Milestone average order? I'll wager it is mid 5 figures with a handful, per year, in the 7 figure range. I'd also bet that Verkada's average order is in the high 4 figures (very much lower than Milestone's). This goes to sales efficiency (which is part of corporate profitability). Higher average order values means you need few salespeople, order processors, finance people... Plus, if Milestone is really one selling "one" lower priced part I know a good VP of Sales they should hire as they are missing out, and doing their customers a huge disservice.

*** **** ** **** **** ** the ******* **** ** ***** ** profitability ** * ****. *** ***** major **** ** *** ****** ****** margin (*** ****** *******) *** **** sold. ******* **** **** ****** *** think, ******* ********** ** ******* ******* by *** **** ** ******* *** goods (*** ****** ***** * ******* could *********** **** * ******* *** based ** ********* *** ***** *****) and **** *** ******/********* **** *** (usually ******* ** ******** ***********).

******** ****-***-**** ****** ********** (*******, ****, processors, ********, ********...) *** **** ****** that *** * ******** ****** ** the **** ** ******* * ****** is *** **** ******. *** **** units ** ********** * ******* ********* from * ******** *** ***** ***** each ********** ***** **** ****. ********** camera **** ******* ***** ** ***** company ******* (*** **** ***** ***** math ***** **** ******* *** ***********) it ** * **** ********** **** Axis, ******, *******, *****, ** ** manufacture *** **** ******* **** *******, thus ****** **** ** **** ***** (possibly **** *****) **** ** *****.

** *** **** ****, ***** **** lower **** ********* **** ****** **** than ******* *** *** **** ****-***-**** hardware. **** *** *** **** **** Axis ********* * **** **** ******* their ***** ** **** ******? *****?

**, ** ***** **** **** ***** to ***** * ****** *** **** sell ** *** **** ***** **** Verkada ****** *** ******** ********* ** the *********** **** ********** *** **** than ******* ** * *** **** basis. ***, ** **** ** *** largest (***-***-***) ************ ** *** *****, the ****** ****** ***** ** ****** significantly ********** ** ***** ** ****. Can ** ***** **** ** ******** sales, *** ************* ******* ***** ****** the ****** *************?

** ***** ** ** **** **** beef ** **** *** ********* ***** (as ** *** ****** ****). ** this ** *** ****, *****, ** is *** ****** *** ***** ****** (cold *******). ** ** **** *** term ** *** *******. ********* *** could *** **** ********* ** *** worse **** ******** ** *** ****** industry ** *** **** (******) **** is ******** ********. ***** **** *** moved ** '*****' ********** ****'* ***** users ** *** **** ********* ** Verkada *****? *****, ******, ********, ***** services... *** ******* ******* *************. *** same *** **********, ******, ***, ******, Spotify, *******, ****...

***, ******** ** **** ********** **** time **** *** ************/********* **** **** the ******* ******* ****** ***, *** resell *** **** '*******' ******** *****. Remember, **** **** *&* *** ********, software ***** ** *******, ******, ********, improved, ******... *** ****** *** ***** sale... *** **** ** ** **** on * ********** **** ***** (***** no *** **** ****** *** ****** development ****). ** ***** ** *** appear **** ******** ****** ****** ****** margins, ********* (***** *** ***** * - * ***** ***** ***** ****) this ** *** *********** ****. ** for **** *** ******* ********, **** is * ******** ****** **** **** made. ********* ********* **** **** ******** for ******** *** ************ *** ***************, and ********* *** ******** ********* *** updates ***...

***** ****** ** **** ** **** real ***** - **** ****** **** a ********* ***** ******* ******** '****-**'. This ** ****** *********. *** **** OF ****** ******* ******** ****-**. ** doesn't ****** *** ******** ** ***** or... ** ** ***** **** ** change (**** ***** ****** ***** ** 'perceived ****') **** ********* **** ****** to *** ** **.

**** ** ** ******* - **** people **** ** **** *****. *** 'pain' ** ****** ** **********, *** daily ***********, *** **** ** * new ********... *** ****** **** ** a *** ***** ** ****... *** contribute ** ****** ***** '******-**' ** their ******* *********. *** **** *** be **** **** *********. ** * user *** ***** * ******* ******** dollars ********* *** ************ **** ********, are **** ****** **** ***** *** it *** *** ********* ****? *** consider **** *******. ** * **** has * *** ******* ******* *********, the **** ** ******** *** ** them *** ** **** *** **** to ******. **** ** ***** *** be ********** ******** '****-**'. ****** ** both ** ***** ********, **** ** the ******** *** ******, ******* **** nor ********* ***** **** *** **** much ** **** ******* *** **** on *** ******** **** *** ******* has * ***** ******* ****** **** licensing. ****, *** **** ****** / resale ***** *** **** ****** ********* is *** **** ***** ** ************* are *** ****** *** ** *** customers ********** **** *********.

**** ** ***** *** ******** ** do **** * ****-******* ***** *****. Axis, *********, ** ** *** **** as ***** ******* *** **** *** first ****. **** ****** **** **** profit *** ****** **** ******* **** Verkada **** ** ***** *******. ****, Milestone, ** ** ****** **, ** not, **** ********/********, ***** ***** ** more ********** *** **** **** *** long ***.

**** ******* ** ***** ******** ** dollars ($**+?) ** **** *** ***** show **** *** ****. **** **** shows **** **** ******* ** *** year? ******* ****** *** **** ******** of ******* ** **** *******. ** is ****** * ****** **** ********* make **** ** ***** ** ***** preferred ***** ******.

******: **** ******* *** ***** **** an ******** **********:** *** ***'* **** ***** ****** To **** *** *** ***** *** Suggest **** *** *** **** *** They *** *** **** **** **** To *****?

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JH
John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2023
IPVM

* **** **** **'* *** **** since ** *** ** ****.

*** ** ***** **** ****:

*** **** ** * ******* ********* average *****? *'** ***** ** ** mid * ******* **** * *******, per ****, ** *** * ****** range. *'* **** *** **** *******'* average ***** ** ** *** **** 4 ******* (**** **** ***** **** Milestone's).

*** *** *** *** ** ****? Milestone "*** * *******" - *.*., $50,000? "*******'* ******* ***** ** ** the **** * *******" ** $*,***?

** *** ****** ***** *** ******* Milestone ***** ** *** **** ** Verkada? *** *** ******* **** ****** I ******* *******? * ** ****** radically **************** *** ** *** ** us ** ********** ***** *** ** you *** ** **** ******** ** your ******* ***** **** *****, * can ****** *******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 07, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

*** **** **** **** (** ******). I ** ****** **** *** *** just ****** ** ******* ******* *** know **** * ********* ** ********.

* ******* ******** ****** ***** **** Milestone ******** ************+ ***** *** ****** $599 *** *** **** *******. **** camera ******** * *******. ***** **** for ****** $*** *** *** ***** year *** $** *** **** **********. EACH ******* ******** *** *** ******* - ****** ($*** **** + $*** per **********), *** ($*,***), ****** ******* ($129 **** + $** *** ******), Audio ($*** * * *** ******)... even ***** (*****) **** ($**,***)...

**, ** **** ** *******, * 100 ****** / ** ****** ****** with ***** *** *** (* *** of ****), *** * ***** ****, might **** $**,*** ******* + $*,*** per **** ******* + **** **** (software *******) **** *** **** **** for *******.

**** ** ****** ***** ** "$**,***". Would *** *****?

****, ********* ****** ***** *** *** fewer ********, **** *******, ** *******... but **** ** ** *** ** apples-to-apples ********** **** *** ***** ** Verkada, ******, *******.... ***** ********** ** included ** *** *******.

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JH
John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

***, *** *** *** **** **** for ******* *** **** ******** ** to **** ******* ***** - "*** **** ** * ******* ********* average *****? *'** ***** ** ** mid * ******* **** * *******, per ****, ** *** * ****** range. *'* **** *** **** *******'* average ***** ** ** *** **** 4 ******* (**** **** ***** **** Milestone's)."

* ** ****** **** *** *** just ****** ** ******* ******* *** know **** * ********* ** ********.

* ** ********* ******* **** ******* who ** * ****** ********* ** this ******** ***** ** ** ****** wrong ***** **** * *********** ******** point.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 07, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

******* ******** *******, ****** ******* *********** and *******... *** ** *** ********. Milestone **** ***.

* ** ******* **** ******* *** claims ** ** ** ******** ****** would ************ ***** **** **** ***... :)

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JH
John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

***, ******* ** *****. *** *** excluding **** **** "*******'* ******* *****"?

*** ****:

"*** **** ** * ******* ********* average *****? *'** ***** ** ** mid * ******* **** * *******, per ****, ** *** * ****** range. *'* **** *** **** *******'* average ***** ** ** *** **** 4 ******* (**** **** ***** **** Milestone's)."

** *** **** ******* *** ***** off *** ***? * ** ****** more ********* **** ******** ****. *** are *** ****** ** ** **** this ***** ****** **** ** ******* error?

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 07, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

*******, * ***** *******, *** *** fair ***** ** * ** * camera, *-**** ******* ******. *****, ** their **** ****** **** *** ********, might ***** **** $*** - $*,*** per *****. ** *** **** * sufficient ****** ** *****, ** *** a ******* ****** ** *** ******* customer ***** **** *********** *** **** frequent *** - *** ****** *************.

***'* *** *** *** ******* ******, and *******'* *** ** ******. ***** that ** ***** **% ** *******'* average *********** ******* ***** **** ********, which ******* ** ********** ***** ***** profit **** ********, *** **%+ ** Milestone's ******* ***** **** ******** (******** for **** ***** *** *****), ***** company ********* * ****** ***** ******?

** ** *****, ** *********** ******** might ** ** ***** ** *******'* expected **** ******* ($****? $****?). **** of **** ** ******** ** ******** that ($**** - $****). ****** **** by *** ****** ** ********* (*,***) and *** *** $***,**** - $***,*** per **** *** ******** *****. ** the **** **** ********* ($*.** *** = $**** ***) / *,*** ********* = $***,*** *** **** ********. ****** the ****. **** ******* ********* ****** easily ** **** ** ****** *** same ***** *********** ** *******.

**** ********** ******* **** **** ********** that ******* *** ****** * ****-******* sales ******** ******* ** ***** '**** in' ***** ********* ***** **** **** money. *** **** *** ** ******* any *********** ** **/*** **** ** accurate.

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JH
John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

***'* *** *** *** ******* ******, and *******'* *** ** ******

** ** ********* ******. *** **** that *** *** ** *** *** means *** ************* **** ***** ******** and *** *********** ****** ** ***** companies.

*** *** ******* * ** *****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 07, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

*** *** *****, ** **** ******* to **** ** **** ******. ** comment ******* ** *** ** *** other ****** * ****.

**'* *** **** *** **** ** have ** ******* ***** ** ***** time ** ****** **.

***'* ****** *** *** ******* ***** Verkada's ***. ***'* *** $**,*** *** customer. ******* *** ****, *** ***** people? ***'* *** ******* **** ******** $400M **** ****. **** ** ** simple **** - $**** / *** = $** *** ***** ******. ****** that ** $**,*** *** ******** *** you ***, ** *******, ** ****** per ***** ******, *** ****. ***** than * ***** *** ****. ** that **** *** *** ****** ** happening ** *******?

** **** ** *** ****, *** rest ** *** ******** ** ****** because **** ******* ******* *** *** to *** ***** ***** ****** ** do * ** * ****** *** week, ** **** ****** ****** *** size ** ***** ***** ****, ** is **** **** *** ******** ****.

***** *** ********* **** *** *****/*********/***** model ** ******** ***. ***** **** sees ** ***, ***** ***** *** demand ** *** ******* *******. ***** it ** **** *** *** ******** to ********* **** ****** ** ********** and **** *** ** ***** **** it.

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JH
John Honovich
•Jan 07, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

** **** ******* ** **** ** your ******

* ** *** ***** ** ******* this ** * ******** ** ******* disparaging **. *** *** ******** ** make ********* ****** ***** ** ************* wrong ***********. ****, **** *** ******* salespeople ******** ** *** ***.

** **** ** * ******** **** later ** **** ******* ***** *** I ** **** **** **** ******.

**** **** ** **** **** **** disclosed ** *** *** ** ********* I ** ***** ** *** *** take **** ****** ******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 07, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

***** *** ** **** ******* ** engage ** ****** ******* ** ********?

*** **** *** * ********** ***. I ****** ***** ** *** ***** back ** **** ********. *** *** are ******** ** ******* ** ******** this ********** ** ********** ****** **** Research ******* (*****... *********...).

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U
Undisclosed #2
•Jan 08, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

*******, * ***** *******, *** *** fair ***** ** * ** * camera, *-**** ******* ******.

****** **** *****...

*** * ***** ******* **** **** statement/assumption ** *********.

*** ** **** ************ *********/********** ** incorrect, **** ******** ***** ** **** foundation ** ******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 08, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #2

********, ** *** ****, **** **** times ******* ** '*******' ******** ** the *** **** ****** (** *******) an **********/********* ***** ** **** *** completing * **** ******. *** **** times ** *** ***** *** ******* AE (***, ** **** ** *** original ***** ** **** ******, *** not ** ************ ** *** ****** Physical ********), *** **** **** ** you ***** *** ******* ** ******** gets *** ****** ***** *** **** 100% ******* ** *** ***** ***?

** **** ** ***, *** **** times **** *** *** ****/**********/********* **** to ******** ** ********** ****** ** two, ** ******** *** ****** *** another, ** *** ******** ***********, **...

*** *** ** ********* ************* (*** user *** ********* **** ****), ********, and/or ******* *** ******** ** ******** customers (**** *** **** *******). *** let's *** ****** ***** ****'* ******** bugbear, ********, ***** **** ** ********, just *** **** ********.

* ********'*/**********'*/*********'* ***** *** **** ** one **** ***** ****** **** *** adding **** *******. ** ******* *** need *** *** */*/* ** '**** call' *** *** *** ***** (*****, the ******** ***** ** **** ******) so */*/** *** **** ********** ** sell ********** ******* ** ******** *********.

** ***** *** **** **** ** this, ** ******, ****** * **** bet *** **** * '**** *****' do.

U
Undisclosed #2
•Jan 08, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

** ***** *** ** ************ **** your ******** **** ******* ******** ***** a ***** ** * *** * cam ******** - *** ******* ** not ***** ******* ******* *** ***** at ******* *** ***** ********* ** the ******* ******** **********.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 08, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #2

*** ** ******** *** **** ******* cannot **** *** **** * '**** share' ** *** ******** ****** ****** as ** ** **** *** ****** of *** ********.

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U
Undisclosed #2
•Jan 08, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

******* ****** **** *** **** * 'fair *****' ** *** ******** ****** orders ** ** ** **** *** nature ** *** ********.

** **?

'***********' ***** - *** '*************'?

* *** ** ******** (******** ***********/*********) that ******* ** ********* (** **** any ******** **) ***** ****** ***** customers.

*** ******** ** **** ***.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 09, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #2

***** *** ****** *** ***** ** my ******* **** - ***** *** users **** ****** ********** ******** ***** orders *** ** *** ****** ** how ******* ***** *** ******** *** how ***** ************* ******.

* ***** **** ******* ************* ******* small ****** ***** *** *****. *******, I **** ** ** *** ** saying **** **/**** ** *** **** of *** ****/****** ***** ****** ** purchase ******* ******** ******* **** ****** sell ** **** *** ****. **** will ***** *** **, *** ****** they. *****, ** *** *** ****** that *******, ****** ***** ** * 'fair *****' ** ******* ******...

U
Undisclosed #2
•Jan 09, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

***** *** ***** **** ****** ********** generate ***** ****** *** ** *** nature ** *** ******* ***** *** products *** *** ***** ************* ******.

***-*** ** ******** ********* *** **** reference *** '* ** * ****** count, * **** ******* ******'?

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UE
Undisclosed End User #3
•Jan 09, 2023

*** ******** **** *******. ** * user *** * *** ******* ******* installed, *** **** ** ******** *** of **** *** ** **** *** high ** ******. **** ** ***** can ** ********** ******** '****-**'.

** *** ***** ********* ****** *** AXIS ******* ****** ******* **** **** with ********** *** ********. ***** **** would ****** *** **** ** **** were ***-**-**** ** ********* *** *********, they ***** **** ** **** * new ***. ** * ****** ****** to ****** **** ******* **** ***** need ** ******* *** *** *******.

**** ** * **** *********** **********.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
•Jan 11, 2023

***** **** *** ***** ** '*****' everything ****'* ***** ***** ** *** same ********* ** ******* *****? *****, Office, ********, ***** ********... *** ******* ongoing *************.

**** *** ** ****** **** ******* - *** *** ****** **** ********(*) to *** ********* ****. ** *** don't **** ** *** ********* *** more, *** ***'* **** ** ***** out **** ****** ** ***** ***** Google *********.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 11, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

* ***** *** ***** ** ******* some **** ** ****. ** *** end **** ********* * *-**** ******** subscription **** ******* ** ***** ***** system ** *** *** ** **** year ** **** ** *** *****?

**** ** * **** *** **********.

*** ******* ** *** ****** ** that **** *** *** ***** ******** just * ****'* **** ** *** of ********. **** ****** ** ******** multiple ***** ** *** ****. **** choose ** ***** **** ***** ****. But **** **** * ** ***** of ***** *** **** ******** **** year ** ***** **** **** ** Zoho ** ****** ** *****...

***** ***? ***. ***** ***? **.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Jan 16, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

* *** **** *** **** *****'* happen ** *** ****** **** ******** to *-***** - **** ****** *****'* become * *****.

**** ** **** *** ***** ********* meant. ******* ******* *** ******* ****** unless *** *** * ********* *******. There ** ** ********* ***** * Verkada ****** *** ******* ** *** are *** ****** *** *** ************, outside ** * *********** ** ********. It's ********** ** ******* ******* *** out ** **** ** *** *** paying *** ********* - ********** ************.

** **** ******, ** *** ***** hand, ***** ** ********* ** ********* any ***** ***/*****, ** **** ** SD-card ********** ********* ****. *********, ** you ******** **** (** *** ***** ONVIF ********* ******), *** *** *** locked **.

** * ******** *** **** ******* and ***** ** ****** **** ********* to *******, *** **** ***** "********" spend ***** ** ******* ********. **** the ****** ******** ***** ** ************. If **** **** ** ****** ** Verkada, **** *** ** ** ******* all ** ***** ********* **** ********, taking * ******** ******* ***** ** a ******** *** ****** *****.

***** ****** *** ******** **** **** VSaaS ******** **** **** *** **** first-party ******* ****, ******* *** ****** hardware *** ** *** **** ********** mode *** ******* ** **** ****, so ** *** *** **** ******* the *****-***** ********* ** ******* **** can ****** ** * ********* ***/***** without ****** ** **-*** *******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 16, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

*) ** *** ** ********* **** a **** ******'* ****** ** ****** VMS ********* *** ***** ***** *******. I ** **** ****** **** ** very ******, ** ****, ******* ** the **** ***** ***** *** *** has ******* *** *** ** *** useful *****/****.

*) * ** ****** **** **** Verkada *** ******* **** **** ****** that **** **** ******* *** ******** on ***** ******* ** '**** **** dumb' *** **** **** ** ** used **** ***** *** ********* '** needed', ***

*) **** ****** ********** ** * red *******. ** ** *** *** point **** *** ***** ****... ***** was **** ** ********** ***** **** change ******** ***** ********* ********. **** to *** ***** ** **** ** you *** ******* **** ** ******** and **** ****** *** ******** **** data ******* ************, ********** ** **** laptop *** *** *****.

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JH
John Honovich
•Jan 16, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

** *** ** ********* **** * User ******'* ****** ** ****** *** platforms *** ***** ***** *******. * am **** ****** **** ** **** rarely, ** ****, ******* ** *** real ***** ***** *** *** *** reached *** *** ** *** ****** value/life.

***** *****. * ** **** ** someone *** ** *********** ** *** supporting ** ***** ******* **** **** is * ******* ********* ********** *** switching ***** *** ******* ******** ******* happens *********, ** ****** ****** *** are **** ******, ******* ** *******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 16, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

** *** ******** ** **** ***** regularly ***** $*** ** $**** ** thousands ** ******* ** ********** *** deploying *** ********* **** ** ***** them **** ****** **** **** ********* that ******* ****** ** **** *** switch ** * ********* *** ******** and ***** ***** ** **** *****?

** **, ** **** **********, *** would ***** ** ****? ** ** that ***** *** *** ***** ***** for ******* *** *** *** ********* do *** **** *** ***** *****? Is ** **** *** ***** ****** over/aggressively **** ** ***** *** ***** have *****'* *******? ** ** **** Users ***** ******* **** *** *****?

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** to *** *** **********:**** **** ****: *** ****** *****? Do ***** ***** ******* **** *** Money?

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Jan 17, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

*'** **** *** ** *******.

*** ** *** *** ***** *** a ********* ******, *** *** ******** crapped ***. **** ******* ** ******* an **** ****** ******* ****** ** replace **. *** **** *****, **** company *** *********, *** *** *** owners ********* * ******* ****** ** be ** **** **** *** ** their ***** *********.

*'** **** *** *******.

* *** *** **** **** * locations, **** *** * ***** *-****** Milestone ******** ********** ******* (*** **** barebones *******). *** *** **** ** opening * *** ********, *** ** this **** **** **** ** ******* their ****** ****** **** * ***** to ***** *** ****-**** ********* ***. The *** **** ******* ** *** end ** *** *** **** **** want * **** ** ******** ******, because ***** *** **** ******** ** that ********.

*****'* * ******* *** * **** scenarios ***** * ******* ***** ******* their *** ********, *** **** ** those ******* ****'* "***** ***** ******* time *** *****."

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U
Undisclosed #5
•Jan 14, 2023

*** ******** **** *******. ** * user *** * *** ******* ******* installed, *** **** ** ******** *** of **** *** ** **** *** high ** ******.

***. **'** ******* "******-**" *** ****** with ****. ***** *******, ***** ********.

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U
Undisclosed #5
•Jan 18, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #5

IPVM Image

***... ******** **** ** ************ *****. Thanks *** **** ***** **.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
•Jan 16, 2023

* **** *** ********* *** * want ** ***** ** **** ******** confusing ** *** *** ********* ***** and **** * ******* ****** ***** like. *'* ******** ***** ** *** main ***** ** **** ********** ******.

* ******* ******** ****** ***** **** Milestone ******** ************+ ***** *** ****** $599 *** *** **** *******. **** camera ******** * *******. ***** **** for ****** $*** *** *** ***** year *** $** *** **** **********. EACH ******* ******** *** *** ******* - ****** ($*** **** + $*** per **********), *** ($*,***), ****** ******* ($129 **** + $** *** ******), Audio ($*** * * *** ******)... even ***** (*****) **** ($**,***)...

**, ** **** ** *******, * 100 ****** / ** ****** ****** with ***** *** *** (* *** of ****), *** * ***** ****, might **** $**,*** ******* + $*,*** per **** ******* + **** **** (software *******) **** *** **** **** for *******.

** ** *** **** * ****** fee *** *** ********, **** ** the "$** *** **** **********" ********* or *** "+ $*,*** *** **** ongoing" *********. **** *** *** *** license, ** ** ***** ******* *** requirement ** ****** ******** *****.

**** **** ** ******** *** *** first **** *** ********* *** ****** and **** ******** ***** ****. **** Plus ** ****** ******** *** ************+ or *******+. ** *** **** * valid **** **** ************ **** ******** to *** ****** ******* *** ****.

****, * ******* ****** **** *** include ******, ***, ** ****** *******. Smart **** ** ******** **** *** Corporate *** ** ** ******** ***-** for ****** *** ** *** ********* for *** ***** ********. ** **** isn't * ******** **** ***-** ****** you **** * *** ** ********* like ****.

******, *** ***** ******* **** ** referenced ** *** * *** *** using *****. ** ** * ******* for ***** *** ***** ** *** clients ******* *** ** *** * free-to-use *****. ** *** ******** ***'* using *** ***** **** **** ***'* need *** *******. ** **** *** using *** *****, **** **** **** the * ******* *** *** ********* number ** ********** ***** **** ***** be ********* ** *** *****. ***** most ********* (**** *** ***********) ***'* use *** *****, **** ****** ***** up.

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JH
John Honovich
•Jan 16, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

****, * ******* ****** **** *** include ******, ***, ** ****** *******. Smart **** ** ******** **** *** Corporate *** ** ** ******** ***-** for ****** *** ** *** ********* for *** ***** ********. ** **** isn't * ******** **** ***-** ****** you **** * *** ** ********* like ****.

***** *** *** ********* **********. ** I ********* *********, #* *** ** many ***** ****** ** *** ******** that **'* ***** ********.

****'* ** *** ** **** ** point **** ***** ******* ** * positive ***, ***** ******* ** ******* so **** **** ** * **** than *********** **** ******* *** ********* is * ******** ** ***** ***** (though ********* **** ********* *** ***** that ***'* **** *** ***-** ******* approach).

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #8
•Jan 18, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

*** **** ** **** * *********** degree ** *** ******** * ********* quote **** *********, ******* *** ***** Eye.

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Dwayne Cooney
•Jan 16, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

*** ***** ** ****** ** *** number ** ****** * ******* *** Milestone ******** **** ********* ********. ** can **** ******** * ********* ***** easier.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 16, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

*******, ** ** '******-**-******' **********, *******, Meraki, *******... ******* *** ** *** features *** ***** *** ******** ** Milestone.

** *** *** ****** **** ***** cloud-based ********* ***** **** **** **** marketshare ** **** ********* *** ******** as ********* ****? ** *** ********* customers *** ********** ***** ******** *** to ***** ****?

** * ****-***-**** ******* **********, **** is *** **** *** **** ******** over, ***, * *****?

JH
John Honovich
•Jan 16, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

*******, ** ** '******-**-******' **********, *******, Meraki, *******... ******* *** ** *** features *** ***** *** ******** ** Milestone

******* ****** ******* ****** *********. * am *** ****** ********* ** ****** but **** ** **** **** ******** including *** ********** ******* **** **** your ******* *** *** ***** ** not.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 16, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

**! * ** **** **** ******* forward ** **** *******/***** **********. *** you ***** ********* ** ******* **** information?

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
•Jan 16, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

* *** **** ******** ** *** licensing ************** **** **** ****** *** making ** ***** **** ****** **** LPR, ****** *******, ******, *** ***** walls *** *** **** ** * typical ******. *** ****** *** **** (in **** *****) *** ******* ** do **** ****. ** ** ******* most ***** ** *** **** * need *** ***, ******, ** ***** walls. ***** *** *** **** **** edge *****. **** ****** *******, ***** is *** **** **** ***-**, ** not **** ** * ******* *********** usually ******* *** ******** **** *** have ****** ******* ** **** ***'* have * **** *** ** ** be ********** ** ***** ***** ****** or ** ***** ** *** ** the ****** ******* ******* **** *****'* have ** *********** **** *********.

*'** **** ** **** ******** *** nearly ** ***** *** *** ***** that ****'* ******* (** ***** **** my **********) ** **** * **** majority ** ***** **** **** ** record ***** *** ** **** ** playback *** ****** ***** **** ******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 16, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

*** **** * ** ****** ** that ** * **** **** ****** want/need ***** ************ **** ********* ***** charge ******* **** *** **** *** thusly ** **** ********* **** *** cloud-based ********* **** ******* **** *** no ********** ****

U
Undisclosed #5
•Jan 17, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

* *** **** ******** ** *** licensing ************** **** **** ****** *** making ** ***** **** ****** **** LPR, ****** *******, ******, *** ***** walls *** *** **** ** * typical ******.

*** **** *** **** **** **** corporate *******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
•Jan 18, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #5

*** *** **** ** ** ********* is "*******". * ********* ****** ** not * ******* ******.

U
Undisclosed #5
•Jan 19, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

***** **’* **** ******** ****’* *** typical.

***** *** **** ********* ******* **** a *** *********, *** **** **** thousands ** *********.

*** ********* ******* *******, **********, *************, scientific ****, *****, *****, ******** **********, and ****.

**** ********* ******* ****** **** ** cafeterias, ****** *****, *** ******* *********** shops… ** **** **** *****, ********* centers, *** ****.

*** ** **** ** ********* ** SOC’s **** ***** *****.

*** ** *** ********* ******** *** useful.

** *** ****** *** ********* ********, all ** ***** ********* *** ****** and *** ***** ******* ***** ********.

****’* ******* ** ***?

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U
Undisclosed #2
•Jan 16, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

** * ****-***-**** ******* **********, **** is *** **** *** **** ******** over, ***, * *****?

** *** **** ** ******* * yr ******* *** **** ********, *** about *********10 **** *******? (EDIT: hardware/cameras)

**** ********** **** ******* ** ******** (say * *****) **** * ***-**** camera ********* ** ******* ********* *** ROI ******* ***** **** ********* - which **** * *****, ********* **** each **** **** **** *.

*******, *** ***-**** ****** ***** **** actively *** *** ****** *** **** of ***** ******* ***** ****'** ******* paid *** ****.

**** ****** ****** ****** **** ******* ** ***** '***' cameras. *** *** ****** ****?

** **** **** *** **** **** old **** *******, *** *** **** provider *** ***** ******* **** **** out **** **** **** ***** ********, they **** *** ***** *******.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 16, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #2

***** ** * *** ** ***** out **** **** *******.

***, **** * ***** ** ******** is **** *** *** ***** ** time **** ******** *** ***.

*** *** *******-***** ********* * ******* they **** ***** (** **) **-**** license *******, *** *******, *** ***, offers **-**** ******** **********. ** **, there ** ******* ** '******' ****. Users *** *** * ***-**** ******* multi-year ******** ***** ****** ********** *** up ** ** *****.

***, *** *** ******* **** **-**** camera ***** **** **** ** ****** the **** ***** ** *** ****** to **** *****. *** ** **** other ****? *** *** ****** ********** is *, *, ** ***** ***. What ** **** ****** *** **** to **? *** **** ******** ***** is *** **** *** ******* ** clinging ** ******** ******** **** ** save * *** *******? ** *** User *** * **-**** ***** ******* they *** ****** ** ******* ***** cameras ** ***** * ***** *** still *** * **** ***** ** cloud *******.

***** ******* **** ***** ******** **********, or *** ****** ** ******** ******* software ******* *** ******** *******, ** simply * **** ******** ******** ***. The **** ** ******** ** *** their ****** ************ ** ********** ****. Could **** ******** **** * ******? Maybe. *** ** **** ***** ** increased ****? ****'* *** ******? ***** wise, ***** *******?

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U
Undisclosed #2
•Jan 17, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

***** ******* **** ***** ******** **********, or *** ****** ** ******** ******* software ******* *** ******** *******, ** simply * **** ******** ******** ***.

*** *** ****** ******** ********* ****** together ** ** **** **** *** same ***** ** **** ** **** decision, ***.

***** ******* **** ***** ******** **********

***** *********** ** ** **********.

*** ****** ** ******** ******* ******** updates

** ******* *****/***** *** *** ******** in *** ******** ******, **** **** that ****** ** *** *** **** or ***.

******** *******

********* ********* ********.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #8
•Jan 18, 2023

* ********* * ********* ***** ** test. ** **** $*,***--******* ** ** May *** ******** ** ** ********, and ********* ******* *** ********** ***** in ******* ** *** ** *** up.

** ******* *** ******** **** ********* they **** **** ********* ******** ********** and *** **** ** ******** *** correct ******** ** *** **** *** have. **** $*,*** **** *** ******* any *******. * **** **** * bought * ******** **** ****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #9
•Jan 19, 2023

******** ****-***-**** ****** ********** (*******, ****, processors, ********, ********...) *** **** ****** that *** * ******** ****** ** the **** ** ******* * ****** is *** **** ******.

* **** *** ****** ******, *** come **** ** *** **** *** misunderstand ******* **** ********* **** ** manufacturing.

* **** *****, *********, *** ******** contracts, ********, *******, ******, ******, *** more. ****** ** *** *** ******* of ****. *** *** *** ** this?

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Jan 19, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

*** ****, **** ******** ** ****-********* cameras *** ********* ** ******. ****, like ******, **** **** ***** *****. A ***** ****** *** ******** ** other ****** **** ****** *** **. Other ***** *** ********* ** *** up *** ** ************ ****** **** mainland *****/******.

** ****, *****, *******, *******, ******, etc... *** ****** *** ********** ****** all ** *** ****** ******** **** a ******** ********* *** ********* **** the ***. *** ******** ********* (******** you *** *** ********* ** ****** components *** ***** *** ****** *** boards ** ** ** ******** *** brand, **** ****, ** ******** *** own ********* ** ****** **** *** for ****** ********) *** ********* ***** on ******, ** ** ******** **** time, **** ** *** *******, *******, storage...

*** *** **** ** ******* **** definition ** **** *** **** ** 'raw *********' *** ***** **** ******** of '**********-*********' ***** (***)********** * ************ may ********** **** *** *** ******* to **** ******?

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