Because it's easier to sit back and throw rocks rather than moving into a glass house?
I really admire the courage it took to start a site like this as a career move. I'd love to do something such as this myself, but wouldn't be able to risk my current income to do so and I don't see this as something that could be done as a hobby during "off hours".
Chesapeake & Midlantic | 02/19/18 11:34am
Because it's hard work, that's why.
There have been other websites and YouTube channels that have come and gone over the years, and some of them have put out excellent content, but to consistently put out content, day in and day out, for long enough to get noticed takes the kind of single minded dedication that most people simply don't have.
IPVM's model is pretty rare in the industry. There is more money to be made in receiving support directly from the major manufacturers which is probably a big part of it.
It takes a rare personality and mix of knowledge and experience to stand up in a professional way to the beating IPVM and especially John receive on a regular basis. I don't think a lot of people are up to the challenge.
Finally, it's a niche market and IPVM has already laid the groundwork. They have a 10-year head start on everyone else already. I think it would be an expensive struggle to get new registrations and especially to pull existing IPVM members to a new platform. The membership here is expensive enough (if you're not a regular poster) that it's hard to imagine a lot of people having parallel subscriptions unless maybe the challenger already had a lot to offer that didn't overlap IPVM's offerings too much.
HIKVM is underway. Where do you think M.C. has been for the past month?
I think the answer is more economical: there simply isn’t enough money in what IPVM does for more than one company to exist. If someone else started a competitor there wouldn’t be any money in it for them.
It’s like the world Jenga champion saying, “come on, why aren’t there more serious competitors trying to challenge me for my title?”
There is of course sites like SDM out there. I don't believe anyone who has paid to be here believes that they are the same plane. Those type of websites are basically just a clickbait advertising campaign. Read some of them and realize how laughable it is to think that 10 years ago the print version of these sites was all we really had for news/reviews. However, since there are a few of them the model must be partially successful.
Silva Consultants | 02/19/18 05:24pm
There have been at least two attempts to create a "Consumer Reports" type of evaluation service for security and surveillance products in the past. One was started by a consultant like myself, the other by a self-proclaimed "security thought leader". I won't identify their names.
The problem with one was that it relied on manufacturers to support its business model. Each manufacturer would pay to have their product rated and provide the consultant with free equipment to test. In my mind, this service was unfair as it only provided ratings on those manufacturers who "paid to play". I'm not sure that the service ever developed a critical mass and soon fell by the wayside.
The other service had similar conflict of interest problems, as the the person running it would obtain his information primarily through schmoozing with manufacturers and attending industry events rather than conducting independent tests. This guy also had consulting gigs on the side with manufacturers that I felt made his advice anything but objective.
Another person in the industry approached me about 15 years ago and asked about starting a similar service. My advice to him at the time was that while such a service would be valuable, very few people would be willing to pay what it would take to make the service self-sustaining, particularly if the equipment had to be paid for rather than provided by the manufacturer. I did not believe that enough people would be willing to pay a large enough subscription fee to keep the service afloat. I am delighted that John has proven me wrong about this.
As valuable as the IPVM training and product testing is, I feel that the discussion forum is of equal or greater value. Unlike forums that anyone can join, IPVM members have paid a fee to in order to participate, which I feel does a good job of screening out the flakes. When you look at the depth and breadth of the IPVM membership, you have a good representation of the key players in our industry.
Diabolical plan recently uncovered:
Said competitor would need a strong differentiator to pull market share from a niche target that would be cost prohibitive or illegal for IPVM to eventually copy if it worked.
Rob, is this your way of stating you are looking to start up a website?
Trecerdo, LLC | 02/20/18 12:46pm
A huge advantage IPVM has is the industry roles of its membership. The CEOs and executive teams of many video and access control companies are paid subscribers and often comment on articles and discussions. For me, it is more valuable who else is a member of the site, than anything John or Brian writes. Of course the latter drives the former.
While it sounds cheeky, IPVM is where "the cool kids hang out". It's hard to compete with that.
You know, you might be on to something....
Step one: Start Website.
Step two: Build certification program.
Step three: ANSI Certification.
Step four: ?
Step Five: Become the Governor of Hawaii!!!11!
not a big enough fish pond. all the other pubs are advertiser supported and have no motivation to present anything like vigorous dialog. lots of litigious vendors. too many sales reps booking orders based on telling the GC that those 125kHz prox cards are just fine.
I agree the cool (and not so cool) kids all hang out here. Even (perhaps especially) when their corporate policy claims to prohibit paying for ipvm subscriptions.
I agree the world would not be hurt by more ipvm competitors. I assume they don't exist because I rarely (actually never) get a response to a "tell me another site you think I should read" challenge.