Who Offers NVRs With Embedded PoE Switches?

Avtech 4 and 8 ch NVR has PoE switch.

Dahua has an NVR with 16 port POE built in. So anyone who gets Dahua NVR's should be able to provide you with them. They are nice solid machines, i haven't had any problems with any of them and everyone loves the easy to use GUI. Hope this helps!

Dedicated Micros has the NVR MEDIA SERVER, with a 16 port PoE switch. I thought Axis had one, but maybe it was a mobile application I'm remembering and has since been discontinued.

I've used the HikVision one and I like it. Solid device with good feature set. If it's a small install and you use HikVision cameras it is as close to plug and play you can get. Creates it's own subnet... If you want.

Dahua as mentioned above has a complete line. We distribute it locally here as a seperate business from our integration side, customers and installers both seem to really like the units, but 80% of sales are for homes, remaining 20% for small businesses. To me these products are aimed at bridging the gap from Analog to IP on the Q-See, Swann type deals, not sure if we'll see much of this on the enterprise level but would be interesting to see if Genetc, Avigilon & Exacq decide to start manufacturing integrated POE appliances.

I have not checked out any of the "new", self contained POE NVR's yet but I was conserned about the limitation of the number of cameras. The units I have taken a quick look at seem to have a total 5MP capacity. About four 1.3MP cameras. When I get a server it's kind of easy to get decent horsepower so that I know will give me a fudge factor of many times over 100%+ using a varity of cameras be they 2MP to a 10MP fisheye.

I have changed my thoughts about using analog cameras, power baluns and CAT5 to the point that some of the small self contained POS systems might work in some of my applications.

Back to my point, are these NVRs w/POE set for a certian number of MP. If I buy an eight camera IP system that should handle 2MP cameras per channel can I then reason that I can put two 5MP and three 2MP cameras on there?

The EverFocus NVR8304D is an 8 port plug and play NVR with the POE switch detached. There is also a 8304E with the POE switch embedded.

The FW of the switch works together with the NVR to automatically assign IP address to the cameras based on which port (1~8) it is plugged into and shows up in the NVR's camera list similar to our DVRs. It has an uplink that goes to the NVR so the switch is "detached." The plug and play feature will not work if you use a third party switch.

It has a brother where we "embedded" the switch in the NVR housing, that version has not arrived in our warehouses yet.

John,

At Lanaccess (www.lanaccess.es), ONSAFE HM supports up to 16 IP cameras with a PoE integrated switch.

ONSAFE HM supports any ONVIF IP camera, and VAPIX from Axis cameras.

System powers the camera, detects the model, assigns an IP address and automatically configure available codecs. All cameras are configured with the same interface, so user doesn't need to access to each web camera interface.

Francesc

We deal with both Dahua and Hikvision POE NVR's. Dahua was one of the first to start doing this and still better than any other I have seen.

The only downside to POE NVR's, atleast the ones I have dealt with, is that you cannot access the cameras web interface when the camera is connected to the embedded POE switch without doing some jimmy rigging. The internal POE switch has its own private subnet which is inaccessible to the outside world and this gives the system its plug and play features. Basically the cameras IP addresses will be on a different subnet than the NVR's This is real nice for end users who have no clue on how to setup IP cameras as it gives them the option to plug in the camera to the NVR and you get video a few seconds later. Its a downside to installers who like to "tinker" with all of the configurable settings an IP camera would have to offer.

Also, its kind of funky when mixing brands of cameras with POE NVR's. For example, if you tried to hook up an Axis camera to a Dahua POE NVR, you would first have to find out what the funky subnet format is of the internal switch is and then set your IP camera to that funky subnet on a seperate switch or router, and then plug it in to the POE NVR. Not exactly intuitive, but doable.

I'd prefer to atleast have the option of the internal switch to be a typical dumb switch without its own private subnet so the cameras IP's and the NVR IP can be on the same subnet.

Well there's always a trade off between ease of use and granular control. The best way to make something idiot-proof (or at least idiot-resistant) is to lock down all possible settings to prevent someone from changing the subnet or whatever to an incorrect value, crashing the entire system. Take Apple products. One reason it "just works" is most of the settings are locked down out of the box, so the chance of two weird settings conflicting with each other is severly reduced.

CBC/Ganz has an embedded NVR. Like some of the other ones mentioned, they embed an 8-port POE switch and then include an external 8-Port POE switch for the rest of the cameras. I am told that this is done because of the heat generated by embedding a 16 port POE switch, but I'm not sure on that.

Ganz PixelMaster Pro

@Rukmini....sorry for the delay in your answer. 2 months is extreme. They are not related products. The other post seemed resolved with the customer changing products. @John H.....processing is very important and very limited in the small units, expanded in the larger units. Amazingly it makes a difference in the live view. These systems are here to stay and good points were brought up about camera interoperability, hard drive options, APPS and ease if configuration. I also believe these will be starter systems for larger users and will help ease the transition to IP for those still installing Analog and have that customer that insists on a better image. There were a few other good points mentioned but they are usually best learned through the experience so I won't highlight them. Frankly they are a great way to introduce lower cost IP cameras to integrators that have their favorites already. The next question is going to be what more can be done to simplify an install and the inevitable customer changes and how good is the service from the manufacturer. These units represent low cost and convenience with reasonably good video. Of course I am absolutely biased as a manufacturer sales person so feel free to discount my comments as such.

We have evaluated a few POE PSE devices to integrate into the servers we design and build.

Some of them behave like a switch and present a single IP to the system while others present an IP from each of the ports.

The POE power aspect has been the tricky one to validate, but we have weeded out those devices that simply could not maintain the power out to several 9W IR cams.

The other thing to bear in mind is that these devices may be POE ModeA or ModeB from the PSE side as allowed by the spec. The cameras themselves must allow both modes to be called POE compatible. Note that the M12 connected cameras are NOT POE compliant because they only have 4 of the 8 wires coming in.