When You Buy A Verkada Camera, You Get No Right Nor License To The Software / Firmware Inside

JH
John Honovich
•May 03, 2019
IPVM

Software is 'eating the world' and there is software in an increasing number of devices from IP cameras to cars to phones to watches to refrigerators, etc.

It is often easy to forget that there is software inside since when you buy those devices, you 'get' the software included at no additional charge perpetually (or until the device dies).

*** ** *** *********** ******** ** Verkada ** ****, ** ******** ** being ******, ****** ******* ******* **** not **** *** *** ****** *** license ** *** ******** / ******** inside ** *** ******. *** *******, in*******'* ***** ** ****, *** ******* *** ********* ****** hardware *****:

******** **** ******** * ******* ** the ******** *** ** ***** *** number ** ******** ***** ** ******* with *** ********. ***********, ******** *** only *** *** ******** **** ** to *** ****** *** **** ** Hardware ***** ********* ** *** ********** Purchase *****

******* ********* *** ********* **** ** us, *********** **** ** **** ************ license *******, *** **** ** ***** to *** ******** ** ******** ** the ******:

*** ******* ** ******** *** **** camera *********. *** ******* ******** *** buyer ** *** *** ******* ******** SaaS ***, ** *********, *** ******** and ******** ** *** ******* ****** the **** ** *** *******. *******, there **no ******** ***** ** ****** ** *** *** ******** ** ******** ** *** ******* after the term expires. [emphasis added]

**** *** ********* ** ****** (***** Verkada's ******** **** ****), **** ** a ******* *****. ** *** *** an **** ** ********* ****** ** a ******** ****** ** * ***** car ** ** ******, *** ********** never ****** **** ** **** **** access ** *** '********' ** *** did *** ******** ** *** *** them.

* ********* ****** ** *** ******* / ****** ******** ** **** **** of **** ***** ** ** ****** do *** ******* **** ** ********* here *** *** **** ** **** a ********* *********.

* ***** ********** ** ******* *** renting ********* *** ** *** *** a ****** (*** ******* ******* ** selling *******), **** **** ******************* ******** / ******** ****** ** clearly *** ** *** ******** *** unexpected ** ****.

**** ** *** *****? ******* *** feedback.

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U
Undisclosed #1
•May 03, 2019

*** *** *** ***** ** ****** need ** **** ** **** ****** system ********. * ********* *** ********* of *** ** ***** ***** **** purchasing * **** ******* ** ****** the ***** **** ** ** *****. I ****** ***** ***** ******* **** to *** ** *** ***** ***** so * ****** ******** ********* *** be ********* ** *** ******* ******. Contemplating *** **** ******* ******** **** on ******** ******** ***** ********. **** a *** *******-*********** ** ******. ***** has ** ** ******* **** ****** to *** **** ************ *** *** Verkada, ** *** *** ******* **** and *** *** **** ******** *********** don't **** ** **** ***....

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Morten Tor Nielsen
•May 04, 2019
prescienta.com
In reply to Undisclosed #1

*** *** ****** **** ** *** firmware ** *********. *** ************* ** trivially ****** ***** * *** **** source *****, ** ***** ******** * competent *** * *** **** ** create * ********** **** ******** **** does ******* *** ****. *****'* ** need ** **** ** ***** ****** code.

*** **** *********** ****** ** ******* the ***** ****** ** ***** *** hardware ********. *** ***** *** * raspberry ** ** * *****, *** the ****** ******* *** ******* (*** sensor ** ***** ******* *** *** size, *** *** ***** ** *** as **** ** **** *** ******* with ****** *******). ***'* **** ** write ******** ** ********* **** *** sensor **** *** ****. **** ** usually ****** ******, *** ********** *** guys *** **** *** ******* *** not ********** ** ******* *** ******** unless ***'** *** $$$.

** ****** ***'** *** * ********, you're ******** * ******* ****** ** the **** - *** ****, *** gotta **** **** *** ********** *** will ****** ***** *** - **** with ***, *** **** ** ********* with **** **** ******** (**'** ** free ** ** *******, *** ** in ****).

*** ******* ** **** ******** ****** all ******* ******** *** (**** * look ** ****' **** *** *******), there's ** ********** ***** ** ****** from *** ****** ** **** "*******". Don't *** ** *****, ****'************, *** **'* *** * ****-******* to ** ****** **.

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JH
John Honovich
•May 04, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Morten Tor Nielsen

***'* *** ** *****, ****'* **** *******, *** **'* *** * ****-******* to ** ****** **.

** **** ** *** ****, *** does ********* **** **% ** *** commercial / ********** ***** ************ ****** use ******* *** ********* / *** that ***** *** ***** *******?

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Morten Tor Nielsen
•May 04, 2019
prescienta.com
In reply to John Honovich

* ***** ** **** ********* ***** about **** "*******" ** **** ** comes ** ********. **** ** *** systems *** ***** (**** *** **********) allow *** ** ************* ****. **** *** ****** *******, with ********** ** *** *******. ** Microsoft ******* "*******" ****** ******* *** can *** ********* **** ** **? I'm ****** **** *** ****** *** community ***** ******** *** *** **** Windows ** ******* ****, *** ********** freedom - ********** ** *** **** different **** *** *** *** ** it. ***************, * ***'* **** ** 2, * ** *** ******* ***** "freedom".

*****, ** *** *** *** ** the ***** ***'* **** *** *** de-facto ****** **** **** ******  *** do *** **** ****** ** *** source ****, *** *** (*****) ******** format ** *********** *** ** **. If *** **** * *** *******, or ****** *********, **** *** ****** pay **, ** **** **** *** vendor **** ******. ** **, ****'* not *******. *** **** **** *** cameras; ***, *** *** *** ******* brands, *** **** ** ***** ***** an ******** *********, ** ****-****** ***** firmware **** **** *** *** ** whatever *** **** **** *** ******.

**, **** ****'** ******* ** "*******", some **** ****, **** **** ****, but **'* ****** ******, *** **** not **** (** ** ...). ******* is ** ******* *******, *** ******** offers **** ******* **** ****** ****. Time **** **** ** ****'** **********.

** *** **** ** *** *******, you'll *** **** **% ** **** use ****** ****** ******* *** *** time - ****** *******, ***, *** non-free *******, *** ***. ******* *** backend (***** *** ***** ****) ** usually **** (*****, ****** ***.). *** normies ***'* **** "****** **", ******* they're ***** ****** ******* **** **** never ***** *** ***** **** ******** them. ****'** ***** **** *** ******* they ****, *** ** **** ***** with ****** ****** - ** **** as **'* ****** ** ***.

JH
John Honovich
•May 04, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Morten Tor Nielsen

** *** **** ** *** *******, you'll *** **** **% ** **** use ****** ****** ******* *** *** time

**** *** ****'* **** ****** **% of ********* **** **** *** *** only ********** ******* *** ** *** the *** ** *** ****** ** type ** ****.

** ****** **** *******, '*******' *** comfortable **** '****' *** **** **** of **** *** *** **** *** enforced **** ******.

** ** ******* ******* *** ****, their '****' ***** *** ********* **** the '****' ** **% ** *** existing '**********' ***** ************ ****** *********.

* ***** **** *** **** ***** is * ******** ******* ******* *** simplicity ***, ** *** ****, ******* is ** *** ******* **** ** that ****.

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Morten Tor Nielsen
•May 04, 2019
prescienta.com
In reply to John Honovich

*** ***** *** **** ******* ** like ***** *****. ***** ** ***** if *** **** ******** *** **** options *** *********. *** *** "*********" from ****** ** **** * ******.

*'* **** ***'** ******** **** *** concept ** *** "******* ** ******". Perhaps ******* ***** ****** ***** ** removing *** ******* **********.

JH
John Honovich
•May 04, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Morten Tor Nielsen

* ***** *** *** ******* ** like ***** *****.

******* ** *** ******* ** ******, I ** ***** ***** ******** ******* / ********** ** ********* *******. ** ** * *** ****** to *** ******* ***** **** **** aggressive, ************ *********** **** *** ***** deals ******** *** **** ***-**-*** ******* that **** ******* *** *********. *** example, ** ***** **** **** *******, they **** *** ******* * **** camera ***** ****:

* ***** ** ** * ********* process *** ******* ***** **** *****. The **** ********* **** ** **** buyers *** *** ****** ***** ******* the ********* ********.

*** *** ****, *** ****** ********** is *** **** ******** ******* **** a *** ******* *********** **** ****** trunk ******** ******* ***-**** ****** **** hide **** ******* *** *** ***** of **** **** *** *******.

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CC
Chris Chambers
•May 04, 2019

*'* ***** ** *** **** **** do *** ******* *** ***********/**********, *** do **** ******** *** *********** ** a ******* ********. 

*** **** **** *** ** ** online (** *****) ********** ** ****** home ******** *******, *** *** ********* the ******** ** *** **** ********.  Since * *** ** ***** **** experience, * ****** **** ** ****** to ***** *** *** ******* ******* and * ***** ** *******.  * then **** **** ** *** ** group *** ********* **** *** ******* were **** *****, *** * *** not **** *** **** ** ****** to *** ** ** **** ** see ******** ***** **** **** ***** right ** *** ****.  (******** *** get *** **** ************ *** **** your ***** *****, *** **** ****'* busy ** *** **** **** **** you *** **** *** *****.)

* **** *** ******* ** ******* to * ******** ****** ** *** Ring *** ***** (******* ** *** well ******* *** **** ********), *** this **** ** ******** ** *** blindly ********* **. **** ******** ******'* glowing ******** *** *** ***.  ** actually **** ** * **** ***** how *** **** *** *** *** the ******* ****, *** *** ******* Ring ****'* **** *** ************ ****.  Needless ** *** ** **** ***** out **** ** *** ***** ** the ***** ******, *** ****** ** would **** ** ** ****** ***** forward **** ***** *** ******** ***** than **** ***** ****** ** *****.  He ********* ** ****** *** ******* with **** *** *** ***** ********** about *** ** *** *** ***** that ** *** ***** ** **** to ***.

** ********* ** ** **** ******* with ** *** **** ******* ******, and ******** **** *** ******* *** was * *** *****.  ** **** took ** * ****** ******* ** find *** **** **** *** ******* fees **** **** ******, ***** *** at ***** *.* ***** ***** ** his ******** ** *** ****.

JH
John Honovich
•May 04, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Chris Chambers

*****, ******, **** ** * **** example / ********. **** ** *** more ****** *** **** **** * freemium *****, **** ***** ******** *** available *** **** (**** *****) *** a ************ ** ******** *** ***** services.

*** ******* ***** ** ********* ** that ******* ** ********* ******* * subscription.

JN
John Nino
•May 04, 2019

* ****** **** **** **** *** become * ***** * ******* **** to **** **** **** ** *** software **** ** ******. * ********** the ******* ******* ** ******** ******* it ******* * ****** ******. *** I *** *** ******** ****** ******** increasingly **** ********* **** **** ***** there ****** ** ** **** *** Saas ******* ** *** ******** ****** space. 

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Undisclosed #1
•May 05, 2019
In reply to John Nino

**, ***** ** * ******** ****** yet **** **** *** ******* *** how ***** *** ******. ** **** needed, **** * ********** **** ******** point ** **** **** ********** ** mannerisms. ** ** *** **** ***** that ** ****** *** ********, *** all **** ********. ** *** **** it ***** ** ****** *****, ****** VIDEO ********* ** *** ****** ****. Today ** ** ****** ***, **** browser,  **** ***, **** *****, **** social *****, **** *****/****** ****...**** ***** hobbies.

**** ** ********** *** ** *** going ** ** ******* ** ******** or * *** ******** *************. * general **** ** **** ********** ** needed, **** ***** ** *** **** a ***** *** **** ** *** day ** **** *** *** **** from *** ***** ** *******.

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