What To Do About IPVM's Subscription Pricing? Keep The Same? Raise? Tiers?

IPVM

For more than 11 years, IPVM's subscription pricing has remained the same at $199 per person per year (see the archive.org for then IP Video Market Info's sales page in 2010). We are trying to figure out what to do going forward and wanted to lay out some of our thinking and encourage you to discuss and debate this with us here.

We do not have any predetermined plan here so we are genuinely curious for ideas and feedback. Moreover, subscribers continue to grow, course registrations continue to grow and our new annual conference all help grow revenue so we do not have any existential risks.

Change: 11 years is a long time. Back then, it was just 3 of us, now it is nearly 30 team members at IPVM. We have grown from doing short commentary to in-depth investigations, statistics, shows, testing, financial analysis, etc. People around the world use IPVM information and tools to help make important business decisions.

Same: We are still independent, and still have no outside investors.

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Pricing *** ****

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What ** *** *****?

*'* ****** ********** ******** ** **** you ****** ** **** ***** *** have.

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Undisclosed #1

** *** ****** *******, *** *** it ** ****** ***?

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*** *** *** * ***** ** each ***** **********?

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Jiri Myslin

In reply to Undisclosed #1

* *****, *** ** *** * price ** **** ***** ** **** separately, **** ***** ***** *** ****** "bundles" ** ******* ** *** *********.

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Dmytro Usenko

Camdog Inc

In reply to Jiri Myslin

* ***** ** **** ******* ************* changing *** ******* **** ** *** IPVM *********.

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Brandon Del Pilar

** * ******* ***** * ***** obviously ****** *** ***** **** *** same ** *'** ***** **** **** to ** ** ********** ******** *** value. *******, * ********** **** **** is ********* **** *** ***** *** be **** **** ********* ** ** unlocked **** *** ********* ******* (*** would **** **).

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Undisclosed #1

In reply to Brandon Del Pilar

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#*****

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Kyle Folger

IPVMU Certified

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

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Ashley Schofield

**** ***'* ** **** *** **** industry *** **** ** **** *****-************.

*** * ***** *** ** ***... "Purchase ** ******* ***** *** $*.**"

******* ******* ******... "******** ** ******** comments ***** ******* "****** ***** **** ****" *** **** *** *** $**.**"

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Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Ashley Schofield

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- **** ** *** *** ******* header ******.

- ****** ***** ************ ** *** early ****** ** ********.

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John Honovich

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

IPVM

**** ** *** *** ******* ****** images.

****'* *****! **** *********, **** *** be **** *** ******* *** * don't *** *** ** ***** ***** to **, ********** ***** *** **** of *** ******* ****** ******* ****** to **** **** ** *** ** line **** *** **********.

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Maico Celante

IPVMU Certified

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Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Maico Celante

**** **** *********** **** ****** ****** through ********** **** **'* *** **** anyway 😎

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John Honovich

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

IPVM

*** **** ****** ******** * *****....

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Undisclosed #6

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

** *****, ** ******* ******* **** is ** ****. ** *'* ***** stuck ** *** ******** ******** ** 16 ***** ****** ***** **.

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Sean Patton

In reply to Undisclosed #6

** **** ******* **** **** ******, we'll *** ** ***** ** **** sentence.

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Undisclosed #17

In reply to Maico Celante

*********** "************ *** ****************" ** *** agreeable. **'* * ******** *****, ****. I'm ****** **** ****'* **** ** the *******.

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Lynn Harold

** ***** ** ** ** * change ** *** ******* *********, *'* vote *** * **** ********** ********. Tiered ******* ***** ****** ********* ** to **** ******* ******* ** **** tier, **** ***'* **** ** **** a ******* ********** ** ****** **** thus ********* **** ***** ********.

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Randy Stoddard

IPVMU Certified

* ***** ** **** *** **** rate **********. * *** *** *** tiered ******** ******* ** *** ** something **** * ** ******* ***.

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John Honovich

IPVM

******, ******** *** *** ********** ******** so ***! **** **** ******.

*** ***** * ** ******** ** do ** * ****** ****** ***** we *** ******* **** * *** hundred *********** ** ****, ********* **** they **** ** ***** *****.

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Brian Karas

Pelican Zero

* ***** * "**** ****" **** could ** ***********, ******* ***** ******* somewhat.

**** ***** ** ********* **** * $49 ** $**/**** ************ **** *** not ******* ****** ** ********** (* know **** **** ****** ******* ***'* comment **** ******), **********, **** *****/********, and ***** *** *** ****** *******. Or *** ***** **** ** ***** certain ******* (****** *****) *** *** available ** **** **** *** **-** days.

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* ***** **** **** ***** ******* more *********** *** ***** **** ***** up **** **** *** *** ****** value, ** ***** **** **** ** the ***** ***** **** ** ***** needs *** *******. **** ***** **** IPVM **** **** * ******** **** to ****, *********** ******* * ********** that ** **** ********* **** **** up-to-the-minute ******** ** ******, *** **** interested ** ****** ****** ** * wikipedia ** ***** **** **** **** specific *********** ** ********, *********, ***.

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John Honovich

IPVM

In reply to Brian Karas

******* ** **** (***** ****, ***** access), ** ***** ** ********* **** a ******* ****** ** ****** ****** (i.e., ***** **** $*** **** *** only * ****** ** ******* *** month) ** **** ****** *** **** plan ** **** * *** ****** can ****** *** ****.

* ****'* ******* ** *** *** another *** ****** **** ******* ** via ***** (** *** ******* ** could ** *** ***** ****** ** reports **** ** *** ***** ****** of ******* **********, ***.). *** ** you **** ******* ****** ****** *** article **** ** ** ***** * tier **** ********* ***** *** ****** with ********** *******?

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Shane Duffy

In reply to Brian Karas

****** * **** ** ** * casual ******* *** ******** ** ******* just *** ******** ******** . **** to **** **** ***** **** ***** point

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Michael Miller

*** ******** ** *** **** ***** affect ***** *******? ** ** **** tiered ******* *** ***** ******* ***** be **** ** *** *** ***** to *** *** ****'* ***** ** would *** ***** ***** **** ** be ** *** **** ****?

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John Honovich

In reply to Michael Miller

IPVM

***, *** ****'* ******* **********, ****. I ** *** **** ** ** did **** *** ** ***** ****. Most ******** (** ***** ** **** sites), ******** ** * ***** ** at *** **** ***** (*****, *****, pro, **********, ********). *******, * ********* can ******* **** ****** ***** *** things **** "** **** *, *, and * ** **** '*****' **** access *** *** **** ** *** team ******* **** **** '*****', ***."

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Michael Miller

** **** *** * *** ** complexity *** ********** ********. **********, * like *** ****** ***** *** *** get ********** ******. * ***** ** simplifies ****** *** ********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #4

** **. ****** **** *** **** and ** *****. * ******** ******* think ** ** ********* *** ** individual *** ***** $*** ** **** a *** ** ****** *** ******* if **** *** ****** ********** (*** company **** **** *** ******. ** you ***** ** *** ****, ***** you **** ****** ********** ***********.

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(1)

John Honovich

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4

IPVM

****** **** *** **** *** ** tiers
** *** ***** ** *** ****, think *** **** ****** ********** ***********.

*** **** ***** ** * **** and **** ****** **** ******** ***'* justify ****** **** **** $*** *** many ***** ****** *** ******* ** pay ************* ****. ****'* *** ***** are **** ** *********** ****.

#*, * **** *** ***'* **** tiers *** ***'* *** ** *** a **** **** *** ***** **** $199, **** ***** *** ** ******* to **** ** *** * ***** price? ** ******** *******? ** *****? No **********? * ** ****** ** understand **** *** ********* ** ***** make.

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Undisclosed Integrator #4

** ****,

* ***'* **** ** * ** typical ********** **********, * *** **** site ** ** ******** *********** **********, to **** ** **** ********** *** industry ******** (*******, *****-***, ***). * have ***** **** *** ****** *****, and **** ** * ***** *** the ****** **********. ** * **** the ******** *******, *****, *** **** use *** "*****".

****, *** * **** **** *********, I ***** *** *** **** **** do ********* *** ** ********* ** industry *** ******* ***** *** ****** fair.

*******, * **** * **** **** with *** ***** ** ******* ** specificity ****** ****** *** **** **** to ****** **** ** **** **** aggressive ******** ** ******. * ***** it ******** **** *** **** *** sometimes ***** ** **** ** ****** my ************. * ** *** ******* about *** ********, ** * ***** a *** ********* *** **** ** good. * ** ******* ***** **** someone ********** *** *** ***** ********** of ********* ** ****** ******** *** you *** ** ******* ***** ** no ******, ** ******* *** ****** of ***** **** ** ***** ** article *** ********. *** * ****** style ** ******* **** ** **** all **** *** ******** **** ******* intent ** *********. **** ** ******, don't **** *** ** ** ******** over ** :)

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John Honovich

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4

IPVM

* ** ******* ***** **** ******* challenges *** *** ***** ********** ** salacious ** ****** ******** *** *** try ** ******* ***** ** ** intent, ** ******* *** ****** ** words **** ** ***** ** ******* are ********.

*** *** ***** * ******** ******* or ***? * ** *** ****** to *****, * **** **** ** respond ************ ** * ******** *******.

*'** ***** *** **** ** ******* trying ** ***** * ********. * take ***** ****** ********* *** **** to **** ********.

** ***** ** **** **** ************ who ***** ******** **** **** *** refuse ** ****** ** ******** **** their *********** *** * ***'* ***** that ** *** ***** ***** ** do.

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Undisclosed Integrator #4

* **** ******* **** ***. ** would ** **** ** * ******* war *** ** **** *******, * haven't **** ** ********* **** ******, but *** ***** **** **** ***** it.

* *******, *** *** *** **** example, ***** ** ***** ** ******** comment **** ******** *** ****** ** is * ******* *********. **** ** probably **** * ********* ******** **** zero ************* ** **** * ********* on *** ******* ******. *** ***** handed ** **** *** *** ******** and *******. ******* ** *** ******* doesn't *** *** ******** ** **** down ** ** ** **** *********, then * ***** ******* ****** ** questioned ***** ** *****, *****'* **** that ** * ***** ******, ** maybe ** * ***** *** **** worth *.** :).

*****, * ****** ***** *** **** and ***** ********/********** ***** ** **** part ** **** ****. * ***'* think *** ***** **** **** ********** without **. *** * **** ********, have ** *** ******, ** * have ** ** **** ********* ** that.

***, **** ** ***** *** **** interesting ********** ******** ******** ****, ***** in * *** ***** *** ***** the ******** **, *** **** ***** what * **** *** ** ***** that **** **** *** ******. * recommend ** ********* *** ******* ** the ********.

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Undisclosed #17

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4

**** *** ***** ** *********** *********, you ****.

** **** *** ******* *** ********? No **** ******* ****, ** *****.

** **** ****** **** **** ****** is ******* *****???

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Undisclosed #5

* ********** ***** **** * **** rate ***** ********. ** ** ********** there *** *** **** *** ***! Additionally, * ** *** * **** fan ** ***** *** ** ** have * ****** ** ****** *** are ******** ************* *** **** *** the ********** ***** ** ** ** incredibly ****** **** *** ******** ** well ** *******. ** ***** *** a **** *** **** *** *****, we ***** ******** ***** ** ****** to ***** ****** *****.

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Scott Whittle

IP Technology Labs

**********: *********** ******** *********** *** **** up *** ****. ***** *** ***** to *** ***** ****** ***** *** *VERY* ***** ***** ** ************* *****. Something **** ********* ******** ***** ** tier'ed ***, *** *******.

** ****** *** "*******" *** ****** to ***** ******* ** **** ** a ******** ******* *** ******* ************.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

In reply to Scott Whittle

**********: *********** ******** *********** *** **** up *** ****.

* ***** **** ** ******, *** use **** ** **** "**************" *******.

**** *** *****. *** *******, *** other ******* ** **** ** ******. People *** ********* **** ** ******--*** they *********. ***** *** **** **** of **** "*******" ***** ******.

**** ** *** ****** ****** $*** at *** **** ****--*** *** ******** subscribers, **** ** **** **** *** new *********** *** * ****** ** two *****.

**** *** *** *** ********* ******* gains **** ******** *** ***** ********* past *********** ** * ******* *** for * ******* ****.

** ** **** **** **** "*** rate ** [****** **** **, ** course] $***. ** *** *** ** existing ********** ** **** ******** **** rate ** $*** *** *** **** two *****."

********* ***** ********* ****** ** ********--*** I ** *** **** ***.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

*** ***** **** *****? ****, *******, mugs.

*** *** ***** ******* ******* ******** of **** *****? **** ** *** day, * **** ** ***** *** the ****** ***** *** ****** ******* books ** **** (* *** ** stop **** **** ****** *** *****). I *** ***** *** **** ** people *** ************ **** ***** **** to *** * ********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

* ***** *** $***-$*** * **** for ** *** **** **’* ****. Raising ****** **% ***** *** ***** seems **********.

***** **** ******* ***********. ***** ******** and *’* ** **** ** **** industry ****** **** **** **** ******* away.

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Jason Neubauer

IPVMU Certified

**** ***** * ******* *** ***? If *** **** *** *** ***** value **** ** ******* ** * test **** * * ** * preassigned ******* **** **** **** *** membership ******, **** **** *** ******* of ****** * ******. ** *** to ** ****!

**** ****** *********** *** **** ** raise ** $** ** $**. *** value **** *** ***** ***** ***** is ***********. *** ****** ***** ***** so * *** ***** * ******* tradeshow *** ****** **** ** ***** panel *********** ** *******!!!

****** * ****** "****" ******** ***?

***** ********* ***********?

**** ** **** * *****/**** ****** for *** **********. ******** *** ****** someway/somehow.

***'* ** *****, *** **** *** crap **** **** ***** ****.

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John Honovich

In reply to Jason Neubauer

IPVM

***'* ** *****, *** **** *** crap **** **** ***** ****.

***.

*** *** *** ****** ********** ** do *****, **** *** *************?

IPVM Image

** ***** **** **** **** ***** but * ***'* *** ******* *********** as ***** *** *******, **** ** we ***** **** **** ****** *** of **, ** **** *** **** worth *** ***********.

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Undisclosed #1

* ***'* *** ******* *********** ** worth *** *******, **** ** ** could **** **** ****** *** ** it, ** **** *** **** ***** the ***********.

* ********. *** ****, ** *******'* be ***** ********* **** *****...

**** ** **'* * **** ******, there ** ******* ** ***********... ***** has ***** ** *** ****** *** wants ** **** **/*** ** - particularly *** ******* ******.

******* ** ****** ******* ****** **** show ***** ******* *****:

IPVM Image

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John Honovich

In reply to Undisclosed #1

IPVM

* ***** **** *** ***** *** branding ******* (*********, ****** *** *** use ** *** *+ **** *** logo...). ** **** ***, **** ****** away ***** ** ******* **** *****. I ** **** ****** * ***'* think ** ***** ***** **** * direct ******* ********** ***********.

* *** *** "* ** *** John ********" **** *** * ***'* imagine **** ****** ***** **** * t-shirt **** **** *******...

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Amos Wipf

* ***** ****** ** **** ******** over ****** ********.

* ** ****** ** ***** *** I ***** **** ****** * "****" when * ***** **********.

********* **** ***** ** ***** ***** be * **** ** ***** **** me ***** ***** ******* **** ******* aspects ** *** ****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #10

******** *** *******, ***** *** ****. This ** *** **** ******* ***** companies **** **** ******** *********.

********** **** ***** *******, **** ****** and ******* ********. ***** ** * point ** *********** *******.

***** **** **** ***’* ****** **** a ****** *******, ******* ***** **** are ** *** ***** **** **** comment **** ** ****** ***** *******.

***** *** * ******** **** ****** counter **** ***** ***** ***** ****** cost ** ** ********* *************.

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(1)

John Honovich

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #10

IPVM

******** *** *******, ***** *** ****. This ** *** **** ******* ***** companies **** **** ******** *********.

* ***'* ********** ****. **** *** added ** **** *** ******** *** coverage ***** **** *** ***** *** has **** *** **** *** ****. How **** **** ****** ** ***** companies?

***** ********* **** *** ***** ** price ***** *********** **** ******** ***** customers *** ****** ****** **** *** more:

IPVM Image

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Undisclosed Integrator #10

***** *** ****** ***** *** *** at **** ******* ********* ******** * certain ***** ** *******.

** **** **** *** ******** *** unreasonable ** ****** *** **** **** structure ** ** ******** **** *** the ***** ***** ********. ***** ** the **** **** ***** **** *** Odess *** ***’* **** * **** competitor.

***** * **** **** **** * signed ** *** ** *** **** cost. ***** *’** *** **** *** what *** **** *****, ***** * won’t. **** ** *** ***** ****** a ****** ********.

** *** **** **** ******* ****** 20% ***** **** ** ****** ** your ******* ** ****** *** ******** customers **** ***** ** * “** brainer”.

*** ********** ******** **** * *** about *,*** ********* ****** ****** $**.** a ***** *** ****** ** ********* a ***** ********. ******* *** **** went **** ******** *** **** *** user ** ****’* **** ** *******, but **** **** ******* ******* *** value ** *** ******* *******.

**, ******* ********* ****** *** *********** cost ** * **** ********.

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John Honovich

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #10

IPVM

** *** **** **** ******* ****** 20% ***** **** ** ****** ** your ******* ** ****** *** ******** customers **** ***** ** * “** brainer”.

****'* *** *** * ***** ***** it. * ** ****** ******* ** we ****** ****** **% **** *** less **** **% ** *********** ***** cancel ** *** **** **, ***., i.e., ** ***** ** *** ******** for ******* *** ******.

**** * ** ********* ********* ** do ** ** **** **** **** affordable ** ***** **** **** *****. This ** * ************* ********, *** an ******** ***.

*** *******, **** ****** ** ******* Valley **** ***** ****** ***'* ******, with *** ******* **** ** *** 10x **** ******, **** ** **% of **** ********* ******, *** ***** still ****** **** *******.

* ** ***** ********* **** ***** would ** ******* ** ****** *** tiers ** ******* **** *** ******* to *** ***** **** **** ***** / *********** ** *** ****** ** some ** ****.

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Hans Kahler

Eagle Eye Networks

**** **** ** **** ******** - I ***** ****'* *** ******* ***** to *******. ** *** **** ** do * ****, **** **** ** entry ***** ***** ***** ** ****. The ***** ***** *** ***** ** is ***** * ***** ** ***** rate, ***** ***** ** ********* **** $20 *** *****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to Hans Kahler

**** *** ** *****

*****. ****** ** ****, ***** ***********, no ***** (*** **** ***** ** less)

*****. ****** ** ********** ********* **** China, ******, ******, *****.....(*** ***** **** whatever)

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Undisclosed End User #12

*** ***** ***** **** ** *** foot ** ****** ** ***** *** different ********** ** *******. ***** ***** it, ** ***** *** ***** ********** at $***/****, *** *** ************* **** more, $***/** ******* ** *** *** $199/yr. *** **** ** ****** **** care ****** ***** *** ******** ** pay *** **, *** *** *** $100/yr *** *** ****.

********** * ********* *** *** *****. The ******* *** ***** *** **** great *** * *** * ***** kick *** ** *** ******** ****** but ** * ***'* *** ***** I ***** **** ***********. * ***'* have * *** ** *** ****/***** to *********** *** *** *******, *** that's ***** * *** ** ***** here. * ** * ****** ********* with *** ******* **** ** ****** as ** ** ********* *** ******* because * *** ** ******** ** move **** **** *** ***** *** butter ** **** * **** **** site ** *****.

***** ** ***** ******* ******* ****** I ***** ********** **** ******* ** charge ****. *'* *** **** **** the ***** ****** **. **** ****** would **** ** ********** *** ****** segments ****** *** *** ** ** the ******* *'* *** *** ******** thing ** ** ***** ***** ****** the ***** **** ***** ******, *** simplest ** ******* ****.

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John Honovich

In reply to Undisclosed End User #12

IPVM

****** *** *** ********. ***** *** very ********* ** **, ** **** they **** * *** ** **** to ** (** ** ** ****** and ********** ***** ******* **** *** often ******** **** ** ************* ***** feedback ** *** ********, ***.).

** * ***'* *** ***** * would **** ***********

****, *** ** **** ****** *** question ** ******* ** ****** ***** the ***** *** *****? ***** ****** pay **** *** *****? ****** ****** pay **** *** *****, ***** **** cost ** **** ** **? * don't **** * ***** ****** ** that.

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Chris Peterson

Vector Firm

**** ** ******. *** ******* / personnel ****** ** ****** *** ****** pricing ***** ******** **** **** *** be * ****.

* ***** ** ******** ** ****. I *****'* **** *** *** ********, so **** ***** **** **** ****** already, *** **** ***** ****** ** the ***** **** (** *** ***** do ****). ******* ** **** ***, maybe **** *** *** ** ************, but ** ******** ** *******. (*.*. 2-5 $***, * - ** $***, 11 - ** $***, ***.)

*'* *** * ****** ****.

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John Honovich

In reply to Chris Peterson

IPVM

** ******** ** *******. (*.*. *-* $349, * - ** $***, ** - ** $***, ***.)

** ** **** **** *******. ** call ** "******" *** ***** *** lots ** ****** ****** ** *** IPVM ** **** *** **** ********* use **** *** **** *** **** employees.

**** ** ******* ***** ** *** or ***** **, ********* **** ***** subscriptions ** **** ** ******* ******* revenue **** ********* ***** **** ****** benefit **** ****.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #13

•Jan 25, 2022

******* ** ****** ***** ** *** next **** *********** *** **** ******** segment *** *****... *** **** *** data *** ******* **** ** ************* and **** ***** *** **** ****** already ****** ** **** ********: **** are **** *** *** ***** *** shootouts, ****** *** *** *****, ***** others *** *** ******** ********** *** scoops, *** ****** *** *** ***** of *** ******** ** *** ******* the ******** ********.

* ** * ****** ** *** market ******** *********. *** *** **** best ************ **** **** *** ***** categories: *****/******* ** *********/**********.

*** **** ** ** **** ** deal **** ****** ******** ****** ***** start *** **** "never ***** **> ******* **** *** Market ***** ** **** be **$ **.**** ** ****"? * toss **** ***********. **** * *** the **** ***** **** ****** *** should **** ******, ****** ** ** spend ** ****** ****** ** **** I **** ** ** ****: *** they ***** *** **** ** *****: "...but **** ****** ** **** $****!"

**** ***** **** ******** **'* **, and **** ** ******* **** ********* is *********, *** **** ** *******: I **** **** **********, *** *** this ****** *'** **** * ********** for *****. ** - *** **** the ******** *** ** **, **** is * ***** ***** *** *** money *****, *** ***** **** ***** the **** ** *** **** **** alternatives. ***** ******** **** **** ********* ways ** ******* ** *** ****/********, but * ******* ***** ** * lot ** ***** ** *** ******** (such ** *****) ***** * ***'* personally ***. ** * ******** *****, I'd ********* *** ****.

** * **** ****'* ******* ******, I'd ****** *** *** ** ********** vs. ***** ************* *** ******* ******* the ***** ***** ****** ** *** future ** ******** *************. ** ** example, ** ** *** ** ***** and ****** * *** ****, *** next **** ***** ** ** *****, not *** ** ***** ** ********* offered. ** ******* **** * ******** discount, *** ***** ***** **** *** getting * **** ****** ****, *** the ****** ***** ** **** ***** at * ********** *** *** **** per ****.

********* ** ************* ** ****** *** subscription ********** ** * *** ** possibly **** **** ***** *** ****. If **** ****** * **** ****** service (*.*. **** **** ** *****) with * ******* ****** ** ******* customers *** *** ******* ** ***, it ***** ** ****** ** **** off * ******** ** ***** ** that ***** ************. ****'* * ******, anyway... *** ******* * ******** ****: "In ****** ***** ** ** ********** between ****** *** ******** - ** practice ***** **"

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Scott Gregg

* ***** ** ********* ** * flat ***** ********. * ***** *** want ** **** ** **** *** choose **** ******** * ******* ** a ****** ****. * **** **** several ** ****'* ********* ** *** time ** ******* *** **** ****** those ******* ********* ** *** ****. For **, *** ***** * ******* would ** ***** * **-**% ********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #14

* ****** ***'* **** ** ***** it, *** * ***** *** **% more (**.. ****** ***'* ** **!)

** *** *** ** *** ***, IPVM *** * ******** - ***** is ** ***** *********** *** ***** for ********* ******** *** ******* *******. There *** **** ********* ***********, *** they *** ******** ** ** *******. So ***** * ***** *** **% more, *'* *** **** ** ***** with ** ** **% ****.

*** ** ****** **** ***** *** be ** ******** *** ****- ** would **** ** ******* ** **** inflation. **'* **** **** * **** my ********* *% ****** **** ****. They **** *** ****** ******* ******. It **** **** **** **** **** inflation. ***** ******* ******** ******* ** Burr....

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #15

* ***** ***** **** ******* *** the ****!

*'* * ******** ***** *** *'* like ** ***** *** **** * intentionally *** *** **** $*** *** year *** * ***'* ******* **. The ****** ** ***** **** **** articles ******* *** ****** ******** *** the ********* ****** - *** ***** me ****** ** ******** *** ****. This ***'* ** ******* *** ***** driven ** **** **'* *** ****** best *** ** *** ********* (******** because ** ***'* *********)

*** *** ****:

******* *** ***** ** ************ *** relative ** *** ****. ** **** pricing ***** ********* * ****** ****** of ************* ** ** ********** *****. Depending ** *** ****** ***** *** offer * * **** ****** *** $700 ******** ** ** **** *****. I ***** *** ** *** ** that.

***** *** ****** * *********** ****** IPVM. **** ****** * ***** **** is ** *** *** ******* **** for ****** ********. ***** *** **** different ********** ** *** ******* ****... could *** ************ ** *********** ***** within *** ***** ** ****.

*** ******** *****:

* **** **** ***** **-*** **** of *** **** *******. ***** *** enable * ******* ** ********* ******** to **** ********* *** **** ******* for *********. ** *** ****** **** business *** ***** ***** "*********"

********* ********* *****: ***** *** ** the **** ** * **** *** if ** *** ****** ** **** that *** ******** *** *** - hey ** *** **** ** ******* IPVM *** *** *** ***** ** be ****** **** **** ** ** affiliate **** ***** ***** ****** ** to **** * ***** **********.

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John Honovich

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #15

IPVM

**** ********* *** **** ******* *** marketing

**** ** ***** * ******** ****! It **** ******** *** **** ********* against ******** ** ********. ***** ********* only **** ** *** ******** ******* for *********, ** ***** ***** *** publication ****** ********* *** *********** *********.

**** ** ** ********* **** ***** would ****** ** ** **** * small **********

**** *** ****** ****** *** ******** as **** ******* ****** ***** **** moved ** **** ***** ***** ******* advertising *** ****** ************ *********. * feel **** ****** ** **** ** it ****** ******** **** **** ***** and ****** ******** ****** ***** *** authors ******* **** **** *** ******* is *********, *** **** * *** purchase ** *******.

* ************* *** *** **** $*** per ****

*** *** ** *** ********* **** (meant *** ******* **** ********** ** short **** ******), ***** * ********* against ***** *** *** ******* *** longer-term *** *** *** * ***** price,*** *** ****** ****** **** **** here.

***** *** ***** * * **** access *** $*** ********

** ** ***** ***** *****, ********* 3, * *****, ***., **** ** above,*** *** ****** ****** **** **** here.

****** *** *** ********!

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Larry Tracy

**** **** ******** *** **** ** complicated

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Tony Karian

IPVMU Certified

* ****** ********** **** ****** *** question. *** * ********** *** ***** I *** **** ****.

** **************** ******* ** ********* ***** security ****** ** **** *******. * struggled **** ********, *** ******* ** go *** * **** ******* ** 5 ***** ** **** ** *** of ************. ** **** ** ****** to ******* **** **** ** ****** get *******, *** * ****** ***’* want ** *** ** **.

*’** ******* **** ** ***** *** become **** *******, * ***’* **** every ******* (**** ** ****** ******* which ** ** ****** ** ** radar), *** * ******’* **** ** lose ****** ** *** ******** ** tools **** ******** **. ** ***** like ****** ** *** ****** ****, VMS *** ****** *******, *** ******** news (****).

******* *** ***** ****** ***** ***** on *** ********** ** ********/***** ********, so ******* ***** **** ****, *** maybe ****** * *** ** **** article ******** **** ** ********?

***** ** **** ******* ***** ***.

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Ryan King

Pacific Audio and Communications

***** *** **** *****, **** ***** benefits ********** ** * ****** ** understand *******.

**** ****** ** ******* *** ******

*** **: ********** (***** * ***'* use *** ****** **** **): **** is **** **** ** *****/********/****** **?

**'* **** **** * *** ****** polls *** * *** $ *** to *********.

******* *****'* * **** ***** *** the $ ****. ** ******** *** doesn't ****/****** ***** ********/****** ******* ***** I **** **'* **** ** * value ** **, *** ****.

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Corbin Hambrick

***. ***** * **** *** ******** I ****'* ***** ***** *** *** options.

* ***** *** * *** ****. I ***** **** ***** *** **** looking *** ***********. **** ** *** most ***** * *** **** ****. I ** **** **** ** *** industry *******/******** *** ***'* **** **** I ***** ** ****** **** (****** just **** **** **** **** **** maybe), ** * **** * **** of * **** **** ****'* ******* those.

* ***** *** ********* **** ***** will ** ******** ** ** **** the ****** *** ** ********. ...** off *** **** *********** **** ***** be ** ******* **** "*******" **** offers (*.*. **********, *********, ******** *******, industry ****, ************ ***********, ***.), **** to **** **** *** **** ***** a ********* *** ** **** *** tier....holy ***** **** ***** ** * lot ** ****** ** **** **** and ********* *********/********* ** ******.

** ****** * ****** *-**** ******** (ie. ********--**** **** *** **** **** articles, ***--* *** *** ** * company ****** ** *****, ********--**********).

*** **** ***** ***** **** ** get *** ***** **** ***** **** want *** ** *** ***, ****** will ***, **** **, ************ ** get **** **** *****...*** ***** ***** that *** ** **** ** *** point ** ** ********* ****.

*** ******* ** *** ***** *** price ** $***/****. * **** ** out...until * **** * ****** **** you **** **** * ***** **** give ** *** *********** * ****. At **** ***** ** *** **** is ********* ****** * **** *** be *****, *** * **** *** it ** *** **** ***********. ** you ***** *** ***** ** $***/**** I **** **** ** *** ***** and ***** ***** **** * *** from **** **** *** **** **** and ** **'* ***** **. * will ******** ****** ** ** ** and **** **** ******* * *** more *** ***** *** ** ** some ***** **** *** **** ** funny ******. :)

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Undisclosed Integrator #16

* ***** * **** **** ******** makes *** **** ***** ** *** end ** *** ***.

** ** *** ********** *********, * apologize, *** **** ***** ****** *** money **** ****** *** ************* ** questionnaires? ** ******* *** ********** * 100+ ***** ** *****'* ****** ****** into *** ******** ** ******** *** subscription. * ******* ****** **** ***** certainly **** ********** ***** ** ** you **** ***** ** ** * tier ***** **** * ********* **** that ********* ** ****** ** * discount *** *** ****** ** ***** but **** *** ** *** ****** for *************. * ***'* **** *** much **** ***** ******** **** *** hey ***** ***** ****** *****?

******** ***** * ********* **** ****, if *** ******** **** ****, *'* love ** ** **** ** ******* comments *** *** **** ** ** users. ******** *** * ******* **** a ****** ***** ********. **** ******** out ****.

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Jiri Myslin

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #16

* ****** **** *** ***** **** option *****. *** ********* **** **** seems **** **.

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Carl Myllymaki

* **** *** **** *** ***********. I ** * “*********** **********” **** the ******** *** ***** **** ********. but ****** *** *** ****** ** calculator (***** ***** * ****). ** the ***** *********, ************* *’* ** out. *** ********* *** ******** ****** that **** ******** ** *****, *** notch. ***’* **** ** (** **** matters) **** * ***** ****, * will **** **** **** ** **** happened.

**** * ******** ********** * ********** the ***** **********. **** ********* ***** an ***** ******* *******, *, ******, typically **** **** ***** ********* *******. In ****** * ***** ******, **** your ******* ************. ****** ******* *** keeps ****** **** ***** ****** *** trashing **** *****.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

In reply to Carl Myllymaki

**** *** ********* ****** ** **** customers ** ** *****? **** ***** rates, **** ***** *** ********* *** installed ** ***** ***?

* ** **** ******* **** **** would *** ****** * ***** ******** after ** *****.

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(1)

John Honovich

In reply to Carl Myllymaki

IPVM

* ** * “*********** **********” ... If *** ***** *********, ************* *’* be ***.

**'** **** * ******* ** *********** focusing ** *********** **** * ***** willingness ** *** **** ****** ********** integrators ** ****** *** *****. **** strikes ** ** **********. ** *****, as ********, **** ** **** * balance ******* ****** ** ********** *** those *********** ***** ********** *** ******* value **** ** **** ******** ***** to ***** ********.

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Corbin Hambrick

******** * ** * *********** **********. That ****** ** ********* ******. **** "integrators" *** *** ******** *** ******** and ***'* ** *******/********. ** ****** many ****'* ******** *** ** ******* anyway **** ** ****** **** ******* a ******* *** ****'* ******* *****.

* ***** ** ** **** *** honest **** *********, *** ** ****** at *** ****** ** ********* ** get **** *** ********, ****** ****, market ******, ** **, **** ** us ***** ***** **'* **** ***** $250/year *** ***** **** ***** ** able ** ***** *** ***** **** than $***/****...**** **** ** ** *** just *** ******** **** ****** ** choose * ********* ******* ******* *** one ** **** ******* ** ****'* seem ** **** *** ****-***** *****.

...*** **** *** ******** ******* *** much *** * *********** ****** *** that ****** ***** ** ** **** less.

*** ** $*** ***** ***** *********** reasonable *** **** * **** **********, I'll ********** ** ****** **** ** answer ** **** ******* ******* *** post ******** ***** *** *** ** add **** ***** ***** ** ***** to ****** *** ***** ** **** as ********.

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(1)

Blake Murphy

** ******* **** *** ************. ** tiers **** ********** **** ***** ****** our ******* ** *****/***** ***. * general ******** ****** ***** ** *** least ********* ******** ** *** **** is ****** **** *** ***********.** ********** things, * ***** **** ** *** account *** * ***** **** ******* than *****/*****... ***** ****, * *****.

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Jiri Myslin

****** *** ****** ** ******** ****, I ****** ... *** ***** **** a ****** ******* ** ********** ** this ****? **** **** *********** ***** "RATE **** *******" *** ******** *****'* more ******** *** ***** *********** ********* ... ** **** **** ** * strategy ** ***** **** ******* .. in ******* ** ** ***? ****... ?

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(1)

John Honovich

IPVM

In reply to Jiri Myslin

***...

IPVM Image

*** **** ****** ** ********* (** inflation ** ***** ** ** ** or **** **% *** **** ****, that's ** ***** *** *********) *** secondly **** **'* **** **** **** a ****** ***** ** *** ******** with ******* *** **** **** ** had * ********* ******* ********.

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(1)

Undisclosed #17

In reply to Jiri Myslin

************* ** *** **** ***?

** ***** *** * ***** ****** of **** *** ********. ********* *'* biased ** * *** **** **, I'm ****** * *** ** *****, and * **** **** ** ****** out *** ** **** **** ******.

***

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Undisclosed #17

* **** * ****'* **** * hat *** *** ** *************** **** pricing ** ****** *********** ******** ** address *** **** ***** (******** ****** chain) ** ******** *** ********* ************* in *** **** * ******.

**** ** * ******** ****** ** enforce ******* ** *** ****** *********, its ******* ** ******* *******. * am *** ****.

*********** ** *** ***** **** **** comes ** ****. ** **'* ******** to ******** ********** ***** ***** ********** western ***: *** ** **** ********** or ********* *** *********** *********?

**** ** *** ***** ** ************ property?

**** ** *** ***** ** **** source ***********?

(+ *** **** ** ***********)

* ******* **** ***** *** *** of *** **** ********* ** *****.

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***

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Justin Franck

* ******'* **** * ****** ****, but ***** ***** ** ** *****, I **** *** **********, *** **** is **** ** *** ** **** plain *** ********, ********** ** ******, I ***** *** **** ** **** is ** ** ****.

**** ** *** ********** * ***** love *** *** ******* ** **** camera ****** (********** *** ******** ***** up * ***** *** **** ** will *** **** **** ****** ** other ***** ******** *** *** ******* goes **** **** *** **********.

*** **** *******'* ** ** ****** but * ****** ****** *** ****** can *** ********!

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Undisclosed Integrator #18

**** ****** ***** * *** ****, that ** ****, ** * *** is ******* *** ***** **. ** extra $***, **.

***? * **** * *** ** articles *** ******* *** *** *****, I ***** ***** *** *** *********, but ** *** **** ******* ** every ****** *****, *** *** ******* and *** ** **** *** *******, comparison, ****** ********, *** ******* ** the ********.

** *** *** ****** ***** ********** is ***** ** *** *** *****, and ** ****** **** ***** ****** in ******** ***** ***** ******* (****** small **********) *** ** ******** ***** companies (** **** ***** **** *** not ***** ***** ********* *** *** a *** *******!)

***** *** *** **** ****. ****** line * ** ** ** * mild ******** ** *-**% *** ********** tiered.

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Undisclosed Integrator #14

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #18

*** *** ***** **** **** ********** a *** **** ** *** ****. Multiple ********* **** *********** ******** *** bans ********* ***** *********.

*** *** "*******" ***** ** **** pejorative ********. ** * ******* ****, and * **** ************ ***** ** out, **** *** *** "*******" ****. If **** ************ ** ********* ****** and *** ***** ** ***, *** are *** "*******" ****.

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(1)

Tony Karian

IPVMU Certified

********** ** *** *******, **** **** provides * ******** *******. * **** it’s ************ ******** *** ** ** maintain ** **********, *** *** **** do **** *** **** **.

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Dmytro Usenko

Camdog Inc

*** ****,

**** ***** ******* **** ******** **** pages ** **** *******?

* *******- * ****. **** *****- $1000

* ****** -* ****. **** *****-$***

***** *** **** *** ********.

**** **** * *********** ** *** my ********.

**** ***** ** * ******** **** item

****, ** ***** ** * **** of ****** ** ******** *** ***** installers

*** ***?

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(1)

John Honovich

In reply to Dmytro Usenko

IPVM

***** **** ** *** ***********? ** do *** ****** ** ***** ***********.

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Dmytro Usenko

Camdog Inc