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What Would IPVM Recommend For Schools To Assess High Temps?

Your coverage of the "fever" detection products and technology has been excellent. The problem is that there are SO many options. Even when the junk is removed, it is almost overwhelming. In reading your reports and gathering other information, below are the highlights that stand out to me?

FDA approval is important.

Using a non-FDA approved device might open an organization to liability if someone catches COVID at a site and their screening system was not approved.

Canthus is the most accurate area to measure.

NOTHING can accurately measure people on the move.

The best low-cost options are handheld or mounted forehead scanners.

Exterior conditions (hot/cold), exercise, and other factors impact the accuracy of all scanners.

Cameras can be a solid option BUT individuals must be screened one at a time, stand still for 1-2 seconds, remove glasses and hats.

Masks can cause false high-temperature readings.

High-temperature readings are PART of the prevention strategy, but not the full response spectrum.

So here is my question; after reviewing so many options, what would you recommend that an end-user do?

Thanks!

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