Unlimited Vacation - Good Or Bad?

JH
John Honovich
•May 18, 2022
IPVM

What do you think about unlimited vacation?

It's recently got some broad attention as well as criticism from within a prominent industry company.

**** ********* ******* ** * ****-***** manufacturer **** ****** **** ****:

  • "********* *** *****'* *****. ****** ** take **** *** *** ** ***** not ********. ** *** *** *****, must **** ** *** ****. (**** defeats *** ******* ** ********* ***)."
  • "*** - *********, ** **** ** it ** ********* * ***** ** advance *** ********. *** ******** *** that **** * ***** ******* **** off, * ***** ****** ** ***** to **** "****-** ****." ** ****, there *** ** **** **** *** at ***. * *** ****** ****** my ******* ******** ***** ****** ***** the ***** ** "********* ***"

*** ******************:*******’* ********* ******** ** * ****** for ********** *******

****'* ********* ** ******* **** "*********" PTO ** *** ****** "*********" *** that ** ***** ******* ******** **** employees **** **** ******* *** *********** and ********.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•May 18, 2022

****, ******* ** *** *** **** plays ***. * **** ** * country **** ** **** **** **** of **** ***** ** *** ****** holidays ** *** ****. **** ********* support * ****** ***** *** * times *** * *****. ** *** were ** **** * ***** **** of * ******... **** ***** ** negotiable. ** * ** *** ********, for ** ******** **** **** ** view ** ******** **** ** *** very ******.

** ********** ** ******* ******. **** time *** ****** ** ** *** a **** ******* ******* **** *** private ****. ** ***** ** ***** and ***** *** **** *** ********* me ** *** ******* ** **** so **** * *** ***** ** paid **** *** ***** **** ******.

** ******* **** *** *** ******* to ** **** **** ****** ******** I ***** **** ****... *** *** heaps ****. **** ** * **** of **** ** *** **** *** hopefully *****. ** * ******'* **** to ******** ** **** ** * don't ***** ** ***** ******* **-** days * ****.

******* ********* ******* ***** ***** *** employees **** **** **** **** ** the ****... *** * ***'* ***** it ***** *** **** ***. **** there *** **** *** ***** **** an ********* ****** ** **** ***.... but **** ***** *** ** **** a ******, *** *** *****. ** do **** *** ** ***** **** job (*** **** * ********** ******) you **** **** ** *** ****** into **.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #5
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

**** *** *** **** ** * system **** ****** ** **** ** longer ** *** #* ******* *** leader ** *** **** *****. ***** I ** **** **** ** ****!!

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed End User #5

** *** **** ***'** ** **** not ****** ***** ****** *** ***** the ******* *******, ** ***** *** prefer ** **** ***** ******** *** settle *** ***** * ******** ******* economy? *** **** ***** *** *** more **** ** ****.

UE
Undisclosed End User #5
•May 19, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

** ****** ***** *** ****** ** the **** ***** *** #* ******* is **** * ***** ** ** with. *** **** ********.

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Lynn Harold
•May 18, 2022

********* *** ** *** ** ** bait ** *** *** ********* - this ** *** *******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Lynn Harold

* **** **** * *****. **'* a *** *** ***, *** *****.

**** ******* ** *** **** ** medical ***** ** **** ** ******. My ********* ** ***** **** * year *** * *** ********* ********* for ******** * *** ****. ******* for ** *** **** **** ******* as *** *** * ***** ********** shoulder ** ** *****. *** **'* never * ***** ** *** ***** able ** *** *** **** ****** 2 **** ***** *** **** ****** surgery.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #5
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

**** ********** ** ***** ** **** as ********* ********. ** ***** ***** when *** *** ******** *** **.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed End User #5

** ***** ***** **** *** *** actually *** **.

******** **. **** ***** ******* ******* lines *** * **** * ******* who **** *** **** **** ** get ****** **********. * *** ** choose ** ********, ** ****** ***.

** **** *** ******** **** * and *** ****** ** ******** *** medical *** **** ** * **** high ***** ** *** ** *** things **** ***** **** ** **** ever ****** ** ******* *******. ** mother *** ** ******-**-*** **** **** had ********* ****** ********** (** *** all ********** **********) *** **** ***** pay.

* ***'* *** *** *** **** that ** ********. ****** *** ***'* appreciate *** ****, ****'* * ****** of ******* * *****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #9
•May 19, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

*** ********** ** *************** ****** *** *** *** **** you ****. * **** ********** ******* who ****** **** ******* ***** ****** are ****** **** ******** *****, *** not ********** ** * ******* *****. So ***** ***** ****** *** **** advanced ****** ** *** ******* ******. Fortunately, **** **** ******** ***** ******* and *****.

** ******* ** *** **** *** economy ** *** **** **** **** healthcare **. ****'* *** ** ** example ***** ** ** ********* ******** of ******* ********** ********* *** ******* in ***** ** *** **** ******* care ********* ** *** ******* **********.

* ** ***** ******* ** *** West, ********** ** *** **, **'** egregiously *** ***** *** *** ** control, *** ********* ***** *** **** live **** ** * ****** ******* healthcare ******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #11
•Jul 06, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed End User #5

**** ** * ****** ***** ****** summary ** ********* ** ******** ********** is **** ****’** ***** ***** ** Fox ****.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #5
•Jul 06, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #11

******. * ******* * ********* ******** lady *** *** ******** ****** ** move ** *** ** **** ** after *******. ** *** *****-**** ******* from *** ****** ** ****** ** the ****** **** ********** **** ***** "healthcare". **** **** ******* *** ****** with ** ******** *****, ****** *** of ****** *** ****** **** ***** have *** ** **** ****** *** in ******.

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Brian Karas
•May 18, 2022
Pelican Zero

********* ******** **** **** ****** ******* it ***** **** *** ******* **** not **** ** ****** **** ****** PTO ** *** *****. **'* **** a ***** ** ******** *******, ** first "********* ********" ******* *** ** 1999, *** *** ****** ******* *** meant **** ** **** *** ******* they ****'* **** ** ****** *** any ***, ** *** * **** management **** **** ** ********* ** a *******.

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JH
John Honovich
•May 18, 2022
IPVM
In reply to Brian Karas

*** ****** ******* *** ***** **** if **** *** ******* **** ****'* have ** ****** *** *** ***

*********** ******* * *** *** ******* of...

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Brian Karas

**** (***********) ****'* *** ** ******. You **** * ***** *** *** every ******** **** (** ***** ** fulltime). ** *** ** **** *** minimum ***** ** **** **** **** is *** **** ** ****** *** the ********, *********** ******** **.

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Mark Simon
•May 18, 2022
IPVM • IPVMU Certified
In reply to Brian Karas

*******, **** ** ** ********** ** well. ** *** **** ** * company **** ******** **** *-* ***** PTO ** *********, *'* ******* ****** that ** * ******* ** ******* to **** ** *** **** * months. ********** ** *** ******* ***********.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #12
•Jul 06, 2023
In reply to Brian Karas

****** *** *** **** ** **** labor *****. ***** * **** *** expense ** ******* ******** ** *** books *** *** **** ** ***** it *** ******, ** **** ******* takes *** **** ****'* ****** ******* to *** ******* ****.

**** ** *** **** ********* ************ we **** **** ** ****** *** labor ******** ** ******* ****** ** take ******** *** *** ****.

*** ** **** ** *** **** off (** **** ****) *** *** they **** ****** *** ******* **** funded ** ** *****'* ******** ******* to *** ************ *** *** ******* year.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
•May 18, 2022

********* *** ** ******* ********* ** the ******* ** *** *******. ** the * ***** *** * ***** of *********** (*** *** **** ** make ** ** *** * ***** without ***** * **********), **** *********** often ******* **** ** ****** **********. Might ** **** **** ** '******** limited ***' ** **** *****.

***, **** ***** ****, **'* ******* a **** ** **** ** ******* to **** ******.

*** **** ********* ** ************ *****. As **** ** *** *** **** number, ****** ***** *** **** ** how *** ***** *** ******** ****. I ***** * **** * ***** off **** *** **** ** ******, not ******** *** ***** * ******* to **** **** *** ***** * movie ***** ** **** **** ** school.

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Brian Karas
•May 18, 2022
Pelican Zero

* ***** * **** * ***** off **** *** **** ** ******, not ******** *** ***** * ******* to **** **** *** ***** * movie ***** ** **** **** ** school.

*** **** **** ******* **** **** there ****** ** ** *********** ******** on **** * ** ***** ** post *** **** ** **** ********** and ******* ** ***** ** *** value :)

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Brian Karas

******** ********-**-***** ******** ****'* ***** ** watch **********, ***. *** *** ****** don't **** ** **** ** * keep ******** ** *****.

*** ****** * **** ******** ** quota, *'* **** *'** ** ******** to ******** **** *****.

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JH
John Honovich
•May 18, 2022
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

*** ****** * **** ******** ** quota

*** *** **** ** *******'* ********** quotas ******** ** *************** **** ****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
•May 18, 2022
In reply to John Honovich

"***********" ** **** ** **** ****, I ****** "******* ******** **********".

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #14
•Jul 13, 2023
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

**** ** *** **** ******* ** salaried **** - * ******** ******** is ***** ** ********** * *****-*******, complicated ****, ***/** ****** ** ********* labor ***** ****** ***** ***** * time **** ** ******* ****** ******* tasks (** ******* ** **********/******). ********** the ******** **** ** ** ****** or ** **** **** ** ** takes (****** ******* *** **** ** has ** ** ** ***** ** minutes * *******). ** ** **********, the ******** ** ********* ***'* ********** the *** ********* ******** ******* *** the ******* ********** **** ******* *** positions ** ** ******* **** ****** positions.

U
Undisclosed #4
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Brian Karas

*** **** **** ******* **** **** there ****** ** ** *********** ******** on **** * ** ***** ** post *** **** ** **** ********** and ******* ** ***** ** *** value :)

*********** ** ********** *********.

* ***** **** ********* *** *********** depending ** *** **********. ********* * post **** ********* *** *********** ** the **** ****** ***** ** **** comment.

**** ***** *** *** ***** *** when **** **** ***********. * **** don't **** ** ******** ** **** when * **** ******* ******** ******* I ***'* ***** ** *** ******* managers. **** ******'* ******** ** *** your ****** ***** ******** ******* ***.

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U
Undisclosed #6
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed #4

**** ****** ********,

** ***** *** **** **** ******** against ***. **** **** ** **** your ******** ***** **** **** **** with *** *******.

*********,

**** ******* ** *******

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed #4

*'** ******* **** **** ** "****** media ****** ********" ***** ***** ******* of ** ******** ******** (***** *** IPVM ******** *** **** *** * LinkedIn ****). *** **** ****, **** sent ** ****** **** ** "****** media ****** ********", * ***** ******* Corporate ******** ** ********** **********. ******* me, * ** ***** ** ******* Undisclosed *** ** **** ** * have **** ***.

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Sean Nelson
•May 18, 2022
Nelly's Security

* ******** ** ******* ** ** unlimited ******** ****** **** ****. * was ********* **** ** ******* ***** it *** *** **** **** **** and * ***** *** * ***** culture *******.

** ******* ********** *** ****:

- * **** **** ** ********* to ****** *** ***** ****** **** off *** ******** ******* ** ******** business *** **** **** ***** ***** eating **** ** ***** ******** ****. - * ***** **** ****** ****** an ******** ** * **** ****** rather **** * **** ** **********. Id **** ** ********* ** ** a ***** ** *****'*. **** **** provides * ****** **** **** *******.- It *** ***** **** ** ****** your ********* *** ******* ** *** doubt **** **** ***** ***** ** take ********* ** **. * *** kind ** **** ***** *** ********** at ***** *** **** ****** **** this *** * *** ****** *** we *** **** ** **** *********** as **** **** **. * **** said "** **** *** ***** **** and *** *** * ******** ***** of ***** *****. **** **** **** time *** ****** ***** * **** term ********** ** *** ******** ** affect *** *****"

* ***** **** **** ** ** for ***** * **** *** *** its *** **** **** ****. ****** of ****, ** ******* ** *** that **** **** ******* *** ****** off **** **** **** *** **** they *** ********* *****.

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JH
John Honovich
•May 18, 2022
IPVM
In reply to Sean Nelson

* **** **** ** ********* ** stress *** ***** ****** **** *** for ******** ******* ** ******** ******** and **** **** ***** ***** ****** away ** ***** ******** ****.

* ***** *** ** ** *** same. * ***** *** *** / should ** **** ******* ****** ** put ** ***** * **** ** "unlimited ********".

** ******* ** *** **** **** team ******* *** ****** *** **** than **** *** **** **** *** allocated *****.

** **'* ***** *** ********* ** they *** **** ****** **** *** as ****** *** *** ******** **?

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Sean Nelson
•May 18, 2022
Nelly's Security
In reply to John Honovich

** **'* ***** *** ********* ** they *** **** ****** **** *** as ****** *** *** ******** **?

* ***'* ***** **. **** * began *********** ****, *** **** ***** some ********* ** ********* **** ******* to **** *** *** **** ******* they ***** **** ** ***** *** policy ** **** ******** ***** ** taking *** ****. * *** ***** of **** *** ******** *** **** to *** ***** ***** **** ******** issue *** ** **** *** **** needed.

* ***** ** **** ***** **** to **** *** **** ******* ***** their *** *** *** **** **** do *** **** ** ********* ***** time, **** ***** **** ***** **. I ***** **** *** *** ** allocated ***** ****, **** ****** **** pressured ** *** ** ****** *** time ****** ** **. ******* **** we *** **** ********* ***** ****, it ***** *** **** ***** ****** end ** ****** ***** **** *** a **** ** * ****** *** time ****** ******* ****.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #14
•Jul 13, 2023
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Sean Nelson

*'** **** ****** **** **** ********* who **** *** ****** **** "*** it ** **** **" ******** **** they **** **** **** ***. ***** raises * ****-**** ************ ******** ** the ******** ** ******** **** **** off ******* ** ****** ************ **** working.

U
Undisclosed #7
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Sean Nelson

* ***** **** ****** ****** ** employee ** * **** ****** ****** than * **** ** **********.

****, * *****this ** *** **** ********* ***** that nobody but you has mentioned.

** ******* **** ********** ** * part ** ** ****** **** ** as ****** ** ********, ******* '*********' tend ** *** ***** ********** ****** to ****** ** **** *** **** better - ** ** **********.

* **** *** '*********' *** *** many ***** *** * *** ** in **** **** ***'* **** ** team.

** * **** ** **** ********* and ****** ******* ** ******* * Chris ****** ***** ******** *** ***, I ***** ***** ** ********.... ** I **** ** ********* ********, *************, trainings, *** - *** * **** that ** ***'* ****** ** ****, I ***** **** **** **** *** day ******* * ***.

**** **** **** **** ** ****** also *** * ******** ** ****** those ********'***** ******* - ***** *** **** of *** '****' ******** ******* *****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
•May 18, 2022
In reply to Undisclosed #7

*****. **** **** *'* ******** ** and *** ********, * ***** **** my ***** **** **. *** **** of *** **** *** ** ******* calling ** ******* ** **** **** need **** **** *********. *** * check ** **** ********* ** ***** once * *** ** *** ** there's ******** * *** ** ** help.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
•May 18, 2022

** ***** **** **, "**** ** B.S." ****** ****** *** * ****** Based ************, **** *** *** **** "unlimited ********," *** ** **** ****** like **. ******* *** ******** *** French ******** *** *** ******** ********* leave, *** ***** ****** *** ***** done. *** ** ******* *** ** vacation, ********** ** ****, ** **** if * ******** *** ******** ***, there *** ** *** ** ***** them (*****,****,***** ******)

(********** :** ** *****, * ******* maternity ***** *** *** ******** *******, people, **'* ,*****'*, ******** ******, *** furry *******, *** ***** *********** ** houseplants)

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U
Undisclosed #4
•May 18, 2022

*********? **.

**** **** *** ****** ** ******** along **** *** ******* ** ****/**** balance. *** *******, * **** * generous ****** ** ******** ****, ******** time, *** **** ****. **** ****/**** balance, * *** **** **** **** to ** ** ** ***'* * baseball **** ** *** **** *********, run ** ****** ** ******** * medical *********** ******* ** ***** ******* my ******** **** ***.

********* ******** **** ***** **** ** too **** *** * *** ****** to ***** ****** *** ******* ****** for ***** **** ****** *** *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #8
•May 18, 2022

**** ** **. *’** **** ** early ********** ** ** *******.

JH
John Honovich
•May 19, 2022
IPVM

******** **** *******:

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #9
•May 19, 2022

***** * *** ** ** ***** down ** *** *** *** ******* uses *** ********** "... **** **** your **** *** *****'* ***** * long **** ********** ** *** ******** or ****** *** *****." **** *** be **** **********. *** ** *** are **** ** ***** ****** *******, then *** *** *** ****** ************ when *** *** ****** **** ***.

****** ** ****, *'* ******* ** say **** **** **** ******* *** taking *** **** **** **** *** when **** *** ********* *****.

**** ** ******* ***** *** *** that ******** ******* ** ********* *** often ****. **** ***** **'* **** to **** ********* ** ********* *** are ****** ********* *** ************* **** you **** ********* ***, *** ******* clear ********** ** **** ***** ** acceptable ************* ** **** **** ***, or ****** *** ********** ****** ** "as **** ** *** ******* **** not ***** *** **** ****** ** other **** ******* ** ** *** company", ***** *** ** *********** ******* and **** ** ****** ** **** to **** ** ****** ** ******* someone.

**** ** ********.....

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
•May 19, 2022

** ***** ** **** ***** * few ***** ***. ** ** **** for *** ******* *** *** ********* reasons. ** ****** **** ** **** paid ******** **** ** *** *****. Employees *** ** ****** **** **** off. ** ** * ***** *** the *********.

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JH
John Honovich
•Jul 06, 2023
IPVM

******: ** ********* *** *** ******* and ***** ****** *** ****** **** ****, **'* ************ ** ********* ******** ********* *** ********** ********* ** **** is * *** ** ***** ****** out ****** ******** **** *** ********** employees *** ** **** ***:

*********’* ****** ******* ***’* ****** ***** employees, ****** ****, *** ****** ********* the *******’* ********** ** ******** *** need ** *** *** ****** ******** time **** ** ******** ****** *** company, ***** ** ******* ******** ****** ******.

“** *** ******* ** ** **** enhancing ********* ** ******** **** ****,” he ****. “**’* **** ********* ** not **** ** **** ** ****** the ********* ******* ***** *&* *** onto ***** ******* *****.”...

****** ******** ********** **** ******** *** be ***********, ************ ** ********* **** don’t ******* ******* ****** * ******, he ****. **** ******** *** ******* employees ****** **** ***, ***** ****** may ***, *** *******.

“** ********* ******* ** ** **** inclusive, * ****** ********** *** ******* unlimited *** ****** *** ** ******* end ** ******** * ***** **** of ********,” ***** ****.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #13
•Jul 11, 2023

** ******** ******* *** ********* *** policy *** **** ** **** *** when ***** ** ** ***** ** make ** ******* ****** **** ***. There **** ** **** ******* ** anyone **** ***** **** ****** *** unlimited ****** ******* *** ***********. * would *** ******* ******* ***** ** greatest ****** **** ****** ** ********* if ********* *** ** **** ** bad. ** ** ********** ** *** bad *** ***** ** * ***** thing ** ********* **** **** ******* that ******** ***** ***** *********

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** to *** *** **********:********* *** *** ***********?

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