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Undisclosed Commenting - Why?

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Ben Patience
Nov 18, 2020

Maybe this is just me, but on IPVM the majority of posts that i see are from undisclosed integrators/manufacturers.

I see lots of information and advice flying around; some of it is good information, some is contradictory and some is just...stupidity (but we all have our opinions right)...and that is what makes a good discussion - to sometimes take a step back and look at it from another perspective or point of view...

** ******** **:

** *** **** ** ******* ** comment **** **********, *** *** *** not ******* ** ** **** **************?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Nov 18, 2020

** ** ******** *** * ***** manufacturer * **** ****** ** *** represent *** ******* ** *** ****** forum.

*** *** ****** “********* *** *******” in **** ****, *** * **** experience ****** **** ***** ** *** industry * ***** ** ********* **** sharing ** *** ***********.

*** **** ***** *** ** ***.

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BP
Ben Patience
Nov 18, 2020

*********** *** *** * **********.

* ******* *'* **** ****** ******* integrators, *** * ** *** **** side *** ********* *** ***** *** for *** *******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
Nov 18, 2020

**** ****. ********* * ** ****** my ******** ******** ***** ** ********** in *** ******** ** **** * product, *** *** *** ******** ******* stance ** *** ************ * **** for.

** ******* ** **** *** ** my ********, *** **** ***'* **** a ***** *** ** ****** ***** out ** *******, ***. * **** seen * *** ** ***** ********* that ****** ***** ** ****** *****/******** board *******, ***. ** ** **** often **** **** ** ****, ***** can ** * *** ** ******* and ******* ** *****, ***. ****, but *** ******** ***** **** **********, unless ** ** ** ******** ********* from ****** **.

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JH
John Honovich
Nov 18, 2020
IPVM

***, ******, ****'* * **** *** worthwhile ********!

*********** **** ********* ***** ************ ******** and ***** *** ** ******** ************ for ****. **** ** *** ********* is ****** ** ***** ** ** constructive, ************* *** ***** ********* ** any ****** **********. **** *** ****** in *** ************ *********** ******** *** integrator ** **** *********** ***** **** withholding ********* ** ****** ** ********** rival ***** ***********.

** *** **** ** ********, ***** on *** ******** **** ******** *** real *****, ** *** ******** ****, it's ************** *** *** ******** **********.

**** ****, * ***** **** **** people ** **** ********* *** ***** encourage **** *** **** ********* **** saying *********** ****** **** ***** ****** one's ******** ******** ** * **** risk.

****** **** ***** ** *** ** improve *********** ********** ** ** ********* more ****** ** **** *********, * welcome ****.

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BP
Ben Patience
Nov 18, 2020

**** ** * ************ ***** ********** ************ ******** *** *************** ********** and ********. * ** **** **** personal ******** ***** ****** ** ************* feelings ******* *** ****/******* ***** ******* shouldn't ******* ** *********. **** ** what ***** ******** *** ********* ****...

**** ******** *** ************* ** ** industry - *** ***** **** ** do ********* ***** ******** ****** *****. I **** ** ** *********** *** ensure **** ********* ** ******* **** are *********** ***.

*** **** ** *** *** ***** silenced *** ************* ***************...**** *** ***** ** *** ****** express *** ******* ** * ****** you **** ***** ********* **.

**** ** * ***** **** **** a ******** ***********

** * **** ***** *** ******** as ***********, *** ******* ** ** personal ******* ***** ***********...*** **** *** emails * *** ******* * **** been **** ********* ******* ******* ** a **** **** * ********.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #13
Jan 12, 2021

****** ** ***** ******* *** *** would ** ******* ***********.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Nov 18, 2020

** *** ***'* *** **** **** on **, ***'* *** **.

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JH
John Honovich
Nov 18, 2020
IPVM

** *** ***'* *** **** **** on **, ***'* *** **.

*** **** **** **** ***********, ** are *** ****** * **** **? I ** * *** ******** :)

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #7
Nov 19, 2020

* ***** **'* * *** **** the *** ****** ...

"*** ******* **** ****** ** *** Internet ** ********* ***** ************"

- ******* *******

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #13
Jan 12, 2021

********** **** *** ****** *** ****** from ***** **** ******.

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david tonsberg
Jan 11, 2021
Security Reps

** ***** ** ** ** ****** with **. ******** - ** *****'* appear ** ** **** ** **** anything ** *********. ***** ***** ****** and ***** *********.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Jan 13, 2021

** *** * ****.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Nov 18, 2020

* *** * ****** ******* *** my ****** ********** *** ** *** through * ** ****** ******** ** our ****** ***** ****** *** ********* I ****** ****. * ******* *** still ***** *** ******* *** ******* innocuous, *** ****** **** **** ******** to ** ***** ** *** * year *** * **** ***** * posted **, *** * ***** *** yelled ** ** *********. *'* *** risking **** *****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
Nov 18, 2020

** ***

(****** * ** ****** ***********...)

*** **, * ***** **** ***** my **** *** ***** **** ***********, depending ** *** ************. ** ******* has ******** ********** **** (*** **********, distribution ********** *** ****) **** ******* non-disclosure. * ***** ***** **** *** great "*******" **** *** ***** ** a **** **** **** **** ******* what ** ******* ***** * ***-********** agreement ** * ***** *** *** that ** **** ** *** ***.

* ***** **** * ***** **** some ****** ******* **** *** **** people ** ******* ********** *** *** only *** ** *** **** *********** across ** ** ******* ***********.

** **** ** **** ********** **** known (** ***** ** ** ******) and * **** ****** ******** ******** on **** ********. * ***** ****** that ***** ****** ******** *** "*****" my ******* **** * ** *******. If * **** * ******** ******* and ** **** ***** ** ****, it **** ************* ** ********** ** my *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Nov 18, 2020

** ******* ** *** *********. ** this **** * ** ******* *********** because *'* ********** ****/*** * **** undisclosed, *** * ***'* *********** **** my ******** ** ****.

*** ** ******** ********* *** ******* employers **** ** *** **** **** sort ** ******** ***** ********* *** speaking ** ****** ** *** *******. My **** ******** **** *** * thing ***** *** **** *** *** ideas ** ******** * **** ** with. ******** ***** **** ** *******, but **** ****.

** *'* ****** ******* ******, ** opinion ** ********* **** * ****** brand ** ***'* ***, *'** *** my ****. *** ** * **** to *** * ****** **** ********, I **** ***********. ** ** * have * ********* *** * ******* we ***, ***********.

********* ******* *** *** ***** **** "how **** **** ******* ****** **** situation". *'* *** ******** ** **** about ******* ******, *** ** **'* something ****** **** *** ** ****** vehicles, ** **** ****, ***** ** no ****** *****. *** ** ** employer *** **, **** ***** ****** I ** ******* *** ***** ** "secrets".

** *** *** ** *** *** I ***** ***** ** **** ** my ********. ** **** *** **** to ****** *** *'* *********** #***, I ***** * ***** **** **. I **** **** ** * ***** area. ******** ***** ***** ******** ** the ******** ** **'* *** **** for **** *** * ***'* **** know ** ****** *** *** * am.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #7
Nov 18, 2020

* ** ** ********* **** ** company, *** * **** **** **** my **** *** ** ***********. **** my **** ** ******** ******* ** my *******'* ***** * ******* ** name. *******, ** **'* ********** ** my ******* ** ***** **** ********** controversial, **** * **** **** ***********. I ***'* **** ****** ******** **** my *******'* ******** ******** ** *** same ** ** ******** *******.

(**** **** ** ********, ** *'* posting ***********.)

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #12
Nov 18, 2020

+*

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #8
Nov 18, 2020

**********, *********, *** ********* **** *** reprocussion, ***** ***** *** * *** of *** ****** *** ***** , you **** ** ******* **** **** .

********* , *** **** ** *** agree,

**** **** **** ***** , **** unity

**** **** **** *** ** **** appinions , ** *** **** **** bad *********

**** ** *** !

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #9
Nov 18, 2020

***** **** ******* ******** *** ****** related ********, *** *** ****** ********, which *** **** ****** ******** *** career. **** ** ******** ********* ***** posted, ****** *** **** **** *****, but **** ***'* ****** **** **. So **** **** ****** **** **** armchair ******** **'* *****. ** ****** anyone *** *** * ******** ****** opinion *** ****** *** ***** ** them *** ***** ***********, *** ****** consider **** ** ******** ********** **** those **** ******* ***** *** ** the "****" ***** **** ******** *** civility.

*** *** ** **** ** ** is, ** ********* ** * *******, then *** ** ** ***** **'* so ********* **** ** **** ** elections?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #8
Nov 18, 2020

** ** **** ** ** , as **** ** **** *** **** for ** ********** *** ******* *** how ** ********** **** ***** *******

********* *** **** ** **** ** the ******* ** *********, *********, ************ and ************** , **** ** ***

*********** ** *** *** *****

****** *******, *****, ******

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
Nov 18, 2020

*** ****** ***** **** ********* ** well. * ** **** ******* ** not **** ******** ******** ***** *********** or ******** ** ***********. * ** able ** ** **** ****** ******* this *** *** ***** ** ******* on **** * **** ****. ** somehow * *** ***** * ** not ********* *** **** ***** ** everything * **** ******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #11
Nov 18, 2020

* **** * *** ** * different ****, ***** **** ** *** above **** ******* ** **, * post *********** ******* * **** *** a **** ***** *** ****, ***** in ** ********, *** ** *** need ** ** ********** ******** ** sales ******* **** * *** * fairly ****** ******** ***** * ******* or ********* ********. ******, * ******* that ** ******* ****** ** ****** based ** *** ***** ** ** comment *** *** *** *** ***** reason, ********, ***, ***** ** **********, etc. * **** *** * *** of ******** ************ **** ****** ** this ******** ******* ** ** *** and ********** ***** *** ****** ** just *** **** ** ** ** not ***********. *******, **** **** ** my ******* ** *********** *** *** a ******* ****** * **** ***** would ** * *** **** ************* because ** ***'* **** *** **** to ***** *** ******* **** ***** integrators *** ******** *** ********** ***** customers ** ******** *** ******* **. While **** ****** ****** ********** ** opinion ** ** *** *** **** that ** **** *** ** ******** in ******** *** ** **** ** employer ** *** **** **** *** me.

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Marty Major
Nov 18, 2020
Teledyne FLIR

******, * ******* **** ** ******* should ** ****** ***** ** *** merit ** ** ******* *** *** for *** ***** ******, ********, ***, years ** **********, ***.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Nov 19, 2020

***** *** ****** ** ***** * could **** ****** ******* ***** ** my *********** ** ********. *************, * can’t ***** ***** **********.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #8
Nov 18, 2020

***

* **** ***** * *** ** time ******* ** ****** *** ** the **** ************ ** ****** , personnel, *** ***** , * **** see *** ** *** **** ,

**** ** **** **** *** , and ** *********** **** *** , not ******* **** *****, **********, ** opinions,

**** ********* ** ** , ** company, ** ******** ** , *********, Education, ******* ** ********, *** *&* and *********** ******** , **** ** know , ** ****

**** *** **** ** ************ *****

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
Nov 18, 2020

* ***** **** ** **** ** undisclosed ** ** ******* ** **** email **** **** *** ******* ****. If * ******* *** * **** about *** ****** *********** ** **** fund ******* ****** *** **** ********** reasons * ***** ****** ** *** of * ***. ***** *** *** only ***** *** ******** ******* ** this ************. ** ******* ** * bit ** *** ***............

*******,

**** **** *** ********** ** ****** for **** **** ********! **** **** be ** ********, ******-***** ***** ********* participants *** ****** ** **** *** partner, **** ******* ******, **** * $50,000 *****. ********** **** **** ***** about ***** ******* ** ***** *** root ***** ** ******** ******, ***** competing *** ****** ***** *** ***.

**** *** ***** ** ****** *** Good:***.****************.***/**************

**** ** *** *** **** ***** GATHER *** **** ****** ******* **** SALE **** *** **** ******** ****** chefs, ******, ********** ******, ******* *** foodies ** ** **** ***** *** savory **** ** ******* *** ********* organizations *** *** ********* ** ***** for ****** ******* ** *** ******* and ****** *** ******—Black ***** ****** *** ******* and The Gathering for Justice.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Nov 18, 2020

****, *** *****'* **** ****?

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
Nov 18, 2020

**** ******* ** ** *** ***** Revenge ** *** *****....................

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Vincent Tong
Nov 18, 2020

*** *** ****** ***** ***, ****** culture **** **** *** *** *** your ******* ** *** ***'* **** undisclosed.

******

** **** ****** ** *** **** undisclosed ******

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JH
Jay Hobdy
Jan 11, 2021
IPVMU Certified

********* * *** ********* ** **** statements **** ****** ********* ****. ** the *****, * *** ****** ******** I ****. *** * *** *** want ** ***** *********** ** **** I **** * ****, ** ********** with **, ** ***** #* ** a *** ******* * ** ***********.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #13
Jan 11, 2021

*** ******* **** * *** ****** thru ** **** ** ***** ******** would ***** ****** ** *** ******** could *** ******** ******* **** *** if ******* ** *** ****. ** that *****, * ******* *** ***** of *** ******** ***** **** ** diminished, *** *** ***** ******* **** that ** *** **** ***?

JH
John Honovich
Jan 11, 2021
IPVM

* ******* *** ***** ** *** platform ***** **** ** **********, *** who ***** ******* **** **** ** the **** ***?

********* ****** *** **** **** ******** things ** ** **** :)

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #14
Jan 11, 2021

*****, ** **** *** & ***, no ****** *** ******** ***** ** ALWAYS ******* *** **** ********* **** when ******* ***** ** ******* ** comment **** ***'* **** ** ** the ******** ** ******** ****** **** the "**** ******" ****** ** **** more ******* ******, *** **** ** just ** ***********. * ******** *********** exactly **** ** **** *** *** poster **** ****'* **** ****************** **** ** * **** ******* by ******* ** ** ** **** LinkedIn *** ** ******* *******, **** copy/pasted ******** **** *** ******* & created * **** ******** "**" ********** from ** ******* ********* ** ****. They ****'* **** **** ******** ** IPVM *** ******* ******* ** ******** to **. ** **** ***********. * ignored ** *** **** ** ******* EVERYTHING *********** ** *** ******. ** I *** ********* **** **** ****** doesn't **** **/*** *** **** ****** to **** **** **** ** **** made *** ** *** ******* ******** and * ***'* **** *** ***** that ***** ******. *** ** *** way - **** ****** *** ******* Undisclosed ** *** ****** ***** ** I **** ** **** *** ** was.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #8
Jan 12, 2021

***** ** **** *** ** *********** overload , *** **** *** ***** all ******* **** *** ***** *** we **** ******* ************ , *** unity , ******** ** ** ************* level .

******* ** ** *** **** *********** allows *** **** *** ****** *** to **** ********

*** ****** *** ********* ** *** a ***** ******** **** *** *** fear ** ****** ** *********** . so **** *** ***** **** ********** by *** *****'* **** ***'* ***** up.

**** *** * ***** ******** *** needs * ******* **** *** *** not ****** ** ***** *** ** wrong. ** **** ***** ******** *** so **** ***** *********** ******** .

******* ** **** : ******* ** call ** *** **** *** ****** building * ***** ** *********** *** always ********** **** *** **** , not *** ***** , *** ******* , *** *** ******* ** **** .

********** ******* ******** *** **** *** box.

*** **** *******'* **** ******** ******** and ****** *** *** ** ****** what **** ***

** ** **** *** **** ******** and *** ******* ** ** **** it ***** ** *** ** *** goal .

* **** *** **** ** ******* with *** *** ******** ** ****** of ******** ** ********

** * **** **** *******, **** up *** **** **** *** **** to *** **** ,

*** *** ********* ** *** ******** and ******** **********.

** *** **** ** ***** ******* , *** ******** *** ***** ************* , *** ** * ***** ** oppression *** *******.

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DL
David Leinenbach
Jan 13, 2021

*** ***** ******** ******

** **** ** ********'* ******** ********* at *** ***.

*********** ** *** **** **** ***** the **** ** **********, *** ******************** ** *** ****** ** ***** it ******* ** ********.

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Kevin Mundy
Jan 12, 2021
Stanford University

*** ***** * ** *** *** here ** *** ******* ** * NDA *********** *** ********** ** *** information. * **** *** * ****** large ********* *********** **** ** ********** in *** ********* ** * ***'* have ***** ****** ******* ** *****/********* assume **** * ** ** * blog *** ********* ** ******** *** this ** *** **** ** ******. My ************* ** ** ******* *** not ***** ** ** ********, **** often ***** **** ** *********** ** the ********.

***** *** * *** ******* **** this *** ****** ***** ******** *********** that * *** **** *** **** behind *** *******, * ******* ******* who * ** **** * ***.

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