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The Company Never Did Fulfill The Promise Made During The Demo And The Product Was Ripped Out

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Mar 14, 2023
IPVMU Certified

I was once a team member on a presentation where the primary presenter (from the manufacturer) was rattling on for an hour when the end user finally interrupted and I had been given the opportunity to work with one of the largest energy companies on the east coast who wanted facial recognition access control. After a very extensive search process we were finally selected and were completing the commissioning of the system when the customer asked the manufactures' professional services engineer about one of the features that had been demonstrated during the selection process and was one of the deciding factors. The response of the employee of the company was "oh, you don't want that feature!" Well, yes they did! What followed was an extensive unpacking of the difference between a demo system and a real world system. With the CEO of the product being personally involved for nearly a year. The company never did fulfill the promise made during the demo period and the product was ripped out and we were barred from doing business with them as long as their decision maker was still in charge!

NOTICE: This comment was moved from an existing discussion: Your Most Embarrassing Sales Story?

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John Honovich
Mar 14, 2023
IPVM

**** ** * ***** ***. * made ** *** *** **********.

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**** ***'* *** ****** *** *** time *** **** **** **, *** customer ***** **** ******* ** ******* they ***'* **** ** **** **** or ***** **** **** * *******. Good *** **** *******?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Mar 14, 2023
IPVMU Certified

** *** **** *** ** *** not **** *** *** *******. **** wanted * *** **** ** **** thought ** ***** ** ****. *** when *** **** **** *** **** against ***, **** ** ***** **** if *** *** ***** **** ***** with ****! **** *** * ***** ago. *** ******* *** *** ********** - *** ******* - ** *** can *** *** ****** ****** *** for ****.

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Kevin Mundy
Mar 14, 2023
Stanford University

****, ****** ******** ***? ******* **** of **** *** *** ********** **** word ********** **** *****.

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Brian Karas
Mar 14, 2023
Pelican Zero

*** *** **** **, * ***'* even ***** ***** ******* ***'** ********* to ******* ***** *** *** **** plausible *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Mar 14, 2023

*** ... **** *** *** ****** that *** ******** ** ********* **** person's ****** "****" **** ** ******* up ** ***** ********. *** ***** any ********* ******* *** *****, ******** deployed, **** ************ *** "**** ***********"?

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Mar 14, 2023

* ******** ****** **** ** *** West * *** ***** *** *** they *** **** **** ***** ** a *** ******* ***** **********. *** apparently *** *** **** **** **** a ***** ** ****

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Hans Kahler
Mar 15, 2023
Eagle Eye Networks

* *** "**** ***********" ** *** Punisher ** *******. * **** *** in *** **** ******* **** *** can ****** ** ** ******* * rock ** **** ****.

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Brian Karas
Mar 15, 2023
Pelican Zero

**** * ***** **** **** ***** would ********** ***** *** **** ****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
Mar 15, 2023

**** *********** ** *** ********* ** a ***** ***** *** ***** ****** it **** ****. ** ********* ******** a *** ** ******** **** ** a ****** ** ***** ** ** able ** ***** * ******* *** be **** ******** **** ** ***** gait; *** ** **** ****** ****** out **** *** **** **** *** tubes ** **** **** * ***** pebble ** ***** ****, ** *** a ****** **** **** *** ******* they *** *********, ** ******** ****.

****** *** ***** *** **** *** build * **** ******* *** ** someone ** **** *** ******* ** to ***** ******** ** *** ***** truthful.

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John Honovich
Mar 15, 2023
IPVM

** ******* **** **** *********** **** -**** *********** ********,****** **** *********** *******

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Undisclosed #4
Mar 15, 2023

****** * *** **** * ******* PSIM ******* * ****** ***.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
Mar 21, 2023

*'* ********* **** **** ******** ******* was, **** **** ****'* **** ** activate.

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Mar 21, 2023
IPVMU Certified

******** *********. *** ***** ****** ** activating ** *** ******* ** ******* an ******* ** * ******* **** an ******* ** ** *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
Mar 21, 2023

** *** ** *** *** ****. Sales ******** ** *******. ****'* *** we ** ***** ** ******* **-***** and ***'* **** ** *** ************'* promises.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #8
Mar 21, 2023

***********

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #9
Mar 21, 2023

**** ** ** *********** ****** ** being ** *** ******** **** ** technology. * **** ** **** ** sales *** * ************ *** ***** when ** ***** ** ****** ** push *** *** ******** **********. **’* great ** ** *** *****-**-******, *** I *** ****** ***** ***** ****** the ********* ******* **** ********* ***** publish *** **** *********** **** ** would **** ** *******. * *** of *** ***-***** *** **** ***-***** for **** ******** ************, ***** *** to *** ******** ***** ** ******** the ************** ***** ******* **** *********** to *** ** ** **** ** the **** *****.

*** ***** ** ****** ******* *** video ************ ***** **** *** ** world ********* ********** ** **********. **** protecting ********* ***** **** ** ******** infrastructure, **’* **** ** *** ** the **** ** *******. * ******** to *** ********** **** ** *** industry ***** ** ***** *** *** always **** *** ************** **** ************* with * *** ***** ** ****.

*** ***** **** *** ****** ************ has **** ***** *************** ** * solution ** *** ****** *********** ***** the ********** **** ** ********. ** an **********, * *** ** ** a ***-*** *** **** *** ***-**** and *** *************. *** ***-***** *** to *** **** **** ** *** don’t **** ** ***** ***********, *** the ************* *** ****-***** ******* *** feedback.

*’* ***** **** **** ****** **** time, *********, *** ********** ****** ************* for **** ********** *******. *******, ********* with *** ***-***** ** **** ***** the *** ******** ****** ** *** the ******* ********* ***** *******. **** same ********* **** ** ******* **** our ************ ************* ** ****. *’* always ***** **** * ************ ******* out ** *** ** **** ***** a *** *********** ****’** ******* ** and ***** ** *** **** **** tests.

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** to *** *** **********:* **** ** **** ** ***** And ***** **** ** ***** ** Forced ** **** *** *** ******** Technology

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #10
Mar 22, 2023

**** ** ***** *** ** ******* is **** ********** ***** ** *** show. *** * **** *** **** the **** *** ** **, **** the *********** *** ******* **** **** the ************ ****** ******** *** ******* to *** ********.

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Brian Karas
Mar 22, 2023
Pelican Zero

**** *** **********.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #11
Mar 22, 2023

** ******* *** * *** **** Keyscan *** **** *** **** *** stuff ****** ****. ***** *** ******* we ***** *** ****** *** *** we *****.

** *** * **** **** ******* and *** **** ***** ** **** setting ** *** ******* ** **** we ***** * *** *** ****** unlocks *** **** **** ** **** we ****** ***** **** **** ** ISC ****..... ****** **** *** ** answers ** *** ********* ** ***, they ***** ******* **** ** ***** normal ********* **** ******* *** *******.....

** *** ** ******* ******* **** companies **** **** ***** ********. ** this *****, ** ***'* ******* ******** without ******* ** ***** ** *** office.

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Greg Scott
Mar 22, 2023

"**, *** ***'* **** **** *******!"

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**** *** ******** *** ***** ********.

*** *********** ** *** **** **** is ********* ** **********, *** ****** the ****** *** **** ** *** directly ******** **** *** ***** *******, they ****** *** **** **** ******** like **** ** ***.

** ****** **** **** ******** ** the ***** ****** / ****** ******** and ********* ******* *** *** ** they ***** ******* * ****** ******** and ********* * **********.

"*** ** **** *** *** *** back ** ***.."

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Eugene Beytenbrod
Mar 23, 2023
ISS

********** – * ** *** ****** Director ** *********** ** ***. ** my **** **** ***, ** **** come ****** **** *****, ** ** are ********** ******* **** ** *********** when * ******** ****** ****-******** *** under-delivered. * *** **** ** **** comes **** ******* *******. ** *** find ******** ***** **** * *** as * ******, *** **** *** survive ** **** ******. ************, ** is ** *** **** ******** ** the *** **** ** ***** *** POC/pilot ** * **** ********** ******. Demand *** *** ******** ** ** turned ** **** *** **** *** in *** ********** ******. ** ********, use ******* / ******* **** **** be ********** **** ** **********. ****, a ******** ****** **** ***** ** Work ** **** *********. **** ******** both *** *** **** *** *** vendor. *** ****** ** *********** *** delivering *** *** ******** ******** ** the ***. ******** ********** **** ***** come ** ***** *** ** ***** if **** ******* ***** ** *** SOW ******.

* *** ***** *** ** *** a ******* ********** *** * ***** face ** * ********** *********** ** NYC. ** **** ******* ** *********** after * ****** ** ******* **** promised * ****** ** ****** **** couldn’t *******. ** **** ******* **** the ******** **** *** ****** ** can ******* **** *** *** *** those **** ****** ********** ***********. *** customer *** **** ******** ************ ** face *********** ********, *********** ** *** light, ***** ** ******* ****/*********, ******** and ****. **** ** **** ***** from *** ******* ****, *** ******** ran *** ****** *** * ****** in * ********** *********** ** * few ******* ****** ***** * **** rollout.

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