After listening to more specifics regarding the conditions in Western China on this two part podcast (yesterday and today), I will have a hard time ethically buying and selling Chinese surveillance and security equipment going forward, especially from companies that support this humanity crisis. It is horrifying and has no place in the 21st century in a civilized society. (It truly is 1984 come to life).
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The Chinese Surveillance State (Part 1 And 2)
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Matthew Del Salto
May 07, 2019Jeffrey Hinckley
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John Honovich
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John Honovich
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