Pro Focus LLC | 02/17/15 08:06pm
I voted yes only factoring in that they are unmannaged and probably have no other way of knowing what your PoE usage is.
That said, I would never use one of these.
IPVMU Certified | 02/17/15 08:12pm
Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever use an unmanaged switch. Ever. Unless the switch is in your staffed 24/7 office or a closet right next to your staffed 24/7 office.
IPVMU Certified | 02/17/15 08:24pm
voted no... not a fan of unmanged switches, even if it shows me PoE usage per port doesn't bring it any closer to a mananged switch for me...
Syncom Technologies | 02/17/15 09:37pm
As a disclaimer, I am with Syncom. For those who said that this is not helpful because it's an unmanaged switch, if the same feature came with a L2 switch, would that change your mind? We have a ton of feedback from small dealers and distributors who absolutely love this concept, but these are also guys selling a ton of 4-8 camera systems...
Syncom Technologies | 02/17/15 10:22pm
We do realize that the majority would lean towards using a managed switch. Our focus was to expose our idea of having the Power Usage Display, managed or not. We do in fact have managed switches as well. I will post the specs on those if permitted. We are excited with all of the feedback, this format is excellent as always.
IPVMU Certified | 02/17/15 11:11pm
If the price is the same as for a managed switch why not use them? The features that adds to a switch to be managed are larger than a simple lcd.
Syncom Technologies | 02/17/15 11:53pm
@Ethan, yes, it's around $75 difference (based on MAP pricing), and yes, this is a full power (30W/port) switch.
@Hernan, there is a bit of a price difference, but it's realitivly small when you take in to account the huge benefit of L2 capabilities, not to mention 2 additional combo uplink ports. Specifically when putting these two switches side-by-side, you do go from GB PoE ports on the unmanaged switch to 10/100 for the PoE ports on the managed. When it comes to cameras or IP phones, obviously 10/100 vs 10/100/1000 in doesn't mean much assuming you have GB uplink ports.
IPVMU Certified | 02/18/15 12:02am
When we quote the project, we always try to quote the managed switch, but installer tends to remove it from the quote & sub with the unmanaged switch option instead to save the cost. Especially when it is 8 ports or less in a switch. Installer told us that the price difference is not worth the feature added. I find that strange, but would like to know everyone's feedback here as well.
Syncom Technologies | 02/18/15 12:15am
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but there is another unique feature of these switches that we'd love some feedback on. We have been working with engineering to remove the fans. We've been successful so far with our switches that have a 130W power supply and hope to have this move on to 250W power supplies soon.
This was done mainly to improve long term performance since the fans are usually the first thing to go out, whether by failure from continuous use, or simply due to lack of maintenance. We've done a lot of research on this and have found that most don't really care about the added reliability, but more in the fact that there is no sound coming from the switch. I'm curious if you all agree with this(sound > reliability)? Do you see this as an advantage or an added value?
The LED display is not a selling point for me. Probably in large part because I've never come close to using up the power budget of even a 7.5W/ch switch (things like a Cisco SF302-10P that does 7.5W/ch for all eight ports, or 15.4W/ch for up to four ports), so knowing the total power usage has never been a concern for me.
It IS handy sometimes to see the power usage on a channel to tell if a camera is working, but at that point I'm probably accessing the site remotely and already in the management interface, and having it display on the front panel is useless anyway. In fact, 99% of the time, the only time I'm physically accessing the switch is when I'm patching it in... after that I'm doing pretty much everything remotely.
Fanless operation, on the other hand... since I often have to put the switch in an office, under a desk or in a wall rack, or a rolling rack that opens into the office... that would make a lot of customers happy, especially since most switch fans tend to sound like swarm of angry bees.
IPVMU Certified | 02/27/15 01:58pm
1. Since we standardized on switches that for the most part have enough budget to guarentee full power on all ports, I don't see the LED being useful, either. At least there hasn't been a case yet where we wished the switch had it.
2. But are we maybe confusing terms here? Web enabled "smart" switches v.s managed switches. Because we use web enabled smart switches in all cases, but haven't had a need or use for a "managed" switch.